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Post by zxhoya on Sept 24, 2024 16:26:05 GMT -5
Rather than focusing on who is starting, I would think sitting here today that Mack, Epps, Peavy, Sorber, Fielder, and Julius all earn significant minutes. The bigger mystery to me is who will emerge from McKenna, Mulready, Burks, and Williams to earn consistent rotation spots. As we get deeper into the season, there likely won't be enough minutes to feed all 10 players. I think Mack, Epps, and Peavy will probably all be 30+ a game, so not much left. That leaves 100-110 minutes for 7 guys (distributed evenly would be 14-16 minutes/game), which could work if Cooley wants to run a 10 deep squad. But I think those extra minutes get consolidated somewhat around Sorber, Fielder, and Julius. Doesn't leave a ton for the 4 others. I would guess McKenna and Mulready earn the most (with Burks and Williams needing to really play well in their spots to get meaningful run). From reports this summer, Burks doesn't seem to fall into the 'others receiving votes' category. He may well be vying for a starting spot and if not a starter, a key reserve. Can't wait to find out. |
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Post by jwp91 on Sept 24, 2024 18:06:09 GMT -5
Rather than focusing on who is starting, I would think sitting here today that Mack, Epps, Peavy, Sorber, Fielder, and Julius all earn significant minutes. The bigger mystery to me is who will emerge from McKenna, Mulready, Burks, and Williams to earn consistent rotation spots. As we get deeper into the season, there likely won't be enough minutes to feed all 10 players. I think Mack, Epps, and Peavy will probably all be 30+ a game, so not much left. That leaves 100-110 minutes for 7 guys (distributed evenly would be 14-16 minutes/game), which could work if Cooley wants to run a 10 deep squad. But I think those extra minutes get consolidated somewhat around Sorber, Fielder, and Julius. Doesn't leave a ton for the 4 others. I would guess McKenna and Mulready earn the most (with Burks and Williams needing to really play well in their spots to get meaningful run). One of the big questions for me is whether Sorber, Fielder, and Julius split time at one or two positions. There has been a lot of speculation, but I think you need to see how effective they are on the floor in different combinations. If they all turn out to be effective only at the 5, that will open minutes for Burks and McKenna. HR has said that Curtis has really shown well on defense and may be the best defensive guard. I could see Curtis getting the lionshare of 3rd guard minutes over Mulready. Only 43 days left. |
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Post by suicideslushpuppie on Sept 24, 2024 20:36:51 GMT -5
So what are some realistic expectations for this season? Just to be competitive in the Big East and no longer the co-doormat w/ DePaul?
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Post by DanMcQ on Sept 24, 2024 21:20:18 GMT -5
How can I listen to this? |
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Post by bluegray79 on Sept 24, 2024 21:39:38 GMT -5
Thank you
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Post by hoyaatheart55 on Sept 25, 2024 0:10:02 GMT -5
So what are some realistic expectations for this season? Just to be competitive in the Big East and no longer the co-doormat w/ DePaul? With all the new faces it’s hard to say really. I’m in wait and see mode. |
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Post by hoyaguy on Sept 25, 2024 0:14:30 GMT -5
Rather than focusing on who is starting, I would think sitting here today that Mack, Epps, Peavy, Sorber, Fielder, and Julius all earn significant minutes. The bigger mystery to me is who will emerge from McKenna, Mulready, Burks, and Williams to earn consistent rotation spots. As we get deeper into the season, there likely won't be enough minutes to feed all 10 players. I think Mack, Epps, and Peavy will probably all be 30+ a game, so not much left. That leaves 100-110 minutes for 7 guys (distributed evenly would be 14-16 minutes/game), which could work if Cooley wants to run a 10 deep squad. But I think those extra minutes get consolidated somewhat around Sorber, Fielder, and Julius. Doesn't leave a ton for the 4 others. I would guess McKenna and Mulready earn the most (with Burks and Williams needing to really play well in their spots to get meaningful run). One of the big questions for me is whether Sorber, Fielder, and Julius split time at one or two positions. There has been a lot of speculation, but I think you need to see how effective they are on the floor in different combinations. If they all turn out to be effective only at the 5, that will open minutes for Burks and McKenna. HR has said that Curtis has really shown well on defense and may be the best defensive guard. I could see Curtis getting the lionshare of 3rd guard minutes over Mulready. Only 43 days left. Curtis is being a wild card has gone under the radar a bit with much of the discussion being about the front court which is important. If Curtis can find his shooting rhythm again and be a plus defender, then that would be a huge help during the season considering the possible defensive issues with Mack and Epps playing at the same time. I think the roster list had him at 6’ 6” which is good. |
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Post by hoyasaxaphone on Sept 25, 2024 11:15:33 GMT -5
I love that this blog has Burks anywhere from the starting 4 to getting marginal minutes at the back of the rotation. LOL! Or hoping for players to "regain" their shooting touch.....as if high school performance is where the mean regresses to.
Basically, there are a huge host of unknowns about both the individual players and the composition of the team - including our most experienced returnee (Epps).
It will be truly interesting to see how this plays out and the choices/decisions that Cooley makes. But there is undoubtedly a lot of young talent and potential on this team. There will be surprises for sure.....both positive and negative. Which will make it worth watching this team this year....at least for a while.
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Post by EtomicB on Sept 25, 2024 12:28:40 GMT -5
The entire 30 minutes is worth the listen but his comments on "speed dating" in the portal were kinda eye-opening. Stated that the staff recruited 4 players in a few days so there was no chance to get to know them.
I started the clip where he speaks about this year's team.
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Post by MCIGuy on Sept 25, 2024 13:03:22 GMT -5
One of the big questions for me is whether Sorber, Fielder, and Julius split time at one or two positions. There has been a lot of speculation, but I think you need to see how effective they are on the floor in different combinations. If they all turn out to be effective only at the 5, that will open minutes for Burks and McKenna. HR has said that Curtis has really shown well on defense and may be the best defensive guard. I could see Curtis getting the lionshare of 3rd guard minutes over Mulready. Only 43 days left. Curtis is being a wild card has gone under the radar a bit with much of the discussion being about the front court which is important. If Curtis can find his shooting rhythm again and be a plus defender, then that would be a huge help during the season considering the possible defensive issues with Mack and Epps playing at the same time. I think the roster list had him at 6’ 6” which is good. Curtis is more guard than frontcourt player. And the team is lacking in actual guards on scholarship. Those are the minutes he should be filling. |
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Post by jwp91 on Sept 25, 2024 13:53:04 GMT -5
The entire 30 minutes is worth the listen but his comments on "speed dating" in the portal were kinda eye-opening. Stated that the staff recruited 4 players in a few days so there was no chance to get to know them. I started the clip where he speaks about this year's team. Interesting interview, but he sure set the season's expectations pretty low. May need to downward revise the win projection. |
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Sept 25, 2024 15:07:00 GMT -5
The entire 30 minutes is worth the listen but his comments on "speed dating" in the portal were kinda eye-opening. Stated that the staff recruited 4 players in a few days so there was no chance to get to know them. I started the clip where he speaks about this year's team. Interesting interview, but he sure set the season's expectations pretty low. May need to downward revise the win projection. Yep, the "I don't know if it will be in your two, three or whatever" was exactly what I was looking to hear. After the OOC being weak, we better come in with a shiny record to conference play. Win some we shouldn't and hold serve when we should in conference. |
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Post by SSHoya on Sept 25, 2024 15:57:49 GMT -5
Underpromise and overdeliver. I'm good with that.
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Post by traversb on Sept 25, 2024 16:12:46 GMT -5
Yep, the "I don't know if it will be in your two, three or whatever" was exactly what I was looking to hear. After the OOC being weak, we better come in with a shiny record to conference play. Win some we shouldn't and hold serve when we should in conference. The OOC showed what Cooley thinks about the team. That doesn't mean the team can't overachieve. If Cooley thought this was a fringe tournament team he wouldn't have scheduled like he did. If he does think they are fringe and still scheduled like that we have bigger problems. |
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Post by hoyaguy on Sept 25, 2024 16:14:10 GMT -5
Curtis is being a wild card has gone under the radar a bit with much of the discussion being about the front court which is important. If Curtis can find his shooting rhythm again and be a plus defender, then that would be a huge help during the season considering the possible defensive issues with Mack and Epps playing at the same time. I think the roster list had him at 6’ 6” which is good. Curtis is more guard than frontcourt player. And the team is lacking in actual guards on scholarship. Those are the minutes he should be filling. I see how my post was a bit confusing. I meant if Curtis can play at a good level on defense and shooting again, then he should definitely be in the guard rotation a lot if it is a serious defensive problem having Mack and Epps playing at the same time. And his size helps in that regard too. |
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Post by hoyaguy on Sept 25, 2024 16:16:52 GMT -5
Yep, the "I don't know if it will be in your two, three or whatever" was exactly what I was looking to hear. After the OOC being weak, we better come in with a shiny record to conference play. Win some we shouldn't and hold serve when we should in conference. The OOC showed what Cooley thinks about the team. That doesn't mean the team can't overachieve. If Cooley thought this was a fringe tournament team he wouldn't have scheduled like he did. If he does think they are fringe and still scheduled like that we have bigger problems. I’d also say we set this schedule before Julius joined. But as it has been said lots of times already: Cooley isn’t the toughest scheduler by a lot. |
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Post by bluegray79 on Sept 25, 2024 17:04:31 GMT -5
Yes on all of that but I think the reservation he has is based not on ability or even on improvement over last year's team but more on having only 2 players from last year and 15 new pieces, many of whom will see some playing time but all of whom he just doesn't feel able to say reliably that all that talent will translate into such and such level of play. He needs the OOC to mix & match and see what he's got, but mostly he needs wins. Hopefully we'll see a mix of wins, heightened confidence, and team bonding that will translate into solid BE play. I liked his final words on the team: "Georgetown is improving, brother". That tells me he believes in the pieces he's putting out there, and now it's time to put it in motion and see how it all moves forward. The OOC is Step One in that process.
(But mostly he/we need wins)
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Post by bicentennial on Sept 25, 2024 17:18:40 GMT -5
Yep, the "I don't know if it will be in your two, three or whatever" was exactly what I was looking to hear. After the OOC being weak, we better come in with a shiny record to conference play. Win some we shouldn't and hold serve when we should in conference. The OOC showed what Cooley thinks about the team. That doesn't mean the team can't overachieve. If Cooley thought this was a fringe tournament team he wouldn't have scheduled like he did. If he does think they are fringe and still scheduled like that we have bigger problems. It is unlikely that the out of conference was set when we had the additional bigs who were all added quckly and late. Looking forward, we only have one player sure not to return in Peavy which may be an issue in terms of team recruiting balance for next year. Still having a full roster and 4 walk ons should give many different possible combinations in practice which was not possible last year with the low number of players. Other than how the team comes together this year, the other issue is how many of this years players does EC want to retain moving into next year and will he fill the one spot he definitely has for next year this fall or wait until spring. |
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Post by traversb on Sept 25, 2024 17:39:30 GMT -5
Yes on all of that but I think the reservation he has is based not on ability or even on improvement over last year's team but more on having only 2 players from last year and 15 new pieces, many of whom will see some playing time but all of whom he just doesn't feel able to say reliably that all that talent will translate into such and such level of play. He needs the OOC to mix & match and see what he's got, but mostly he needs wins. Hopefully we'll see a mix of wins, heightened confidence, and team bonding that will translate into solid BE play. I liked his final words on the team: "Georgetown is improving, brother". That tells me he believes in the pieces he's putting out there, and now it's time to put it in motion and see how it all moves forward. The OOC is Step One in that process. (But mostly he/we need wins) You nailed it with the mostly he needs wins. That is the purpose of this OOC he built. It isn't about seeing what he has. You see more of what you have in playing better competition. This is the same strategy Ewing tried at the end and it certainly didn't help in the BE. |
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Post by EtomicB on Sept 26, 2024 8:22:57 GMT -5
Yes on all of that but I think the reservation he has is based not on ability or even on improvement over last year's team but more on having only 2 players from last year and 15 new pieces, many of whom will see some playing time but all of whom he just doesn't feel able to say reliably that all that talent will translate into such and such level of play. He needs the OOC to mix & match and see what he's got, but mostly he needs wins. Hopefully we'll see a mix of wins, heightened confidence, and team bonding that will translate into solid BE play. I liked his final words on the team: "Georgetown is improving, brother". That tells me he believes in the pieces he's putting out there, and now it's time to put it in motion and see how it all moves forward. The OOC is Step One in that process. (But mostly he/we need wins) That is the purpose of this OOC he built. It isn't about seeing what he has. You see more of what you have in playing better competition. This is the same strategy Ewing tried at the end and it certainly didn't help in the BE. I think the program needs to avoid bad losses more than it needs wins in the OOC if the team were to go 0-3 against Cuse, WVU & ND it wouldn't be the end of the world even if the losses were lopsided. However, if the team loses to one of its LM opponents it will feel like the season is over early. |
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