jwp91
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Post by jwp91 on Aug 29, 2024 8:55:46 GMT -5
With the way the roster looked before we landed Halaikouna and Diouf, part of me is quite surprised people are upset with this schedule. We were about to enter the season under-manned. Since the signings, we are not under-manned, but we are still young AF.
Another part of me is never surprised at some of the opinions on this board.
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Post by EtomicB on Aug 29, 2024 9:40:57 GMT -5
Nothing is wrong with this schedule if the MTE is replaced with a real one where we'd get 2-3 Top 100 teams. Honestly, there is little difference in our schedule and most of our BE peers if you take out the St. Francis and MSM games and replace them with an average P5 team or two one would expect to play in a MTE, say a Oregon, Ole Miss, Oklahoma, etc. I know a lot of those marquee MTEs are set 1-2 years in advance, so let's hope Ed is already angling for us to be in a real event for next year. This is exactly right.. TC and others compared Gtown to ND more than a few times last season due to the new coach & new players. Here's their schedule, it's not a gauntlet but the MTE they're playing in makes all the difference. I understand all the talk about building and figuring out rotations but none of that means much if these rotations aren't truly tested before BE play.
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Post by thedragon on Aug 29, 2024 23:38:47 GMT -5
Nothing is wrong with this schedule if the MTE is replaced with a real one where we'd get 2-3 Top 100 teams. Honestly, there is little difference in our schedule and most of our BE peers if you take out the St. Francis and MSM games and replace them with an average P5 team or two one would expect to play in a MTE, say a Oregon, Ole Miss, Oklahoma, etc. I know a lot of those marquee MTEs are set 1-2 years in advance, so let's hope Ed is already angling for us to be in a real event for next year. This is exactly right.. TC and others compared Gtown to ND more than a few times last season due to the new coach & new players. Here's their schedule, it's not a gauntlet but the MTE they're playing in makes all the difference. I understand all the talk about building and figuring out rotations but none of that means much if these rotations aren't truly tested before BE play. In past years Merimack and Dartmouth have been a "test" for us. We need to walk before we run imo. I think Cooley also realizes he needs some good vibes around the program badly. Being 10-1 against dogsh*t is probably more valuable to the program than being 6-5 against a tougher schedule. But now the margin for error is razor thin. Go 7-4 against this OOC and it's same old same old.
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TC
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Post by TC on Aug 30, 2024 6:21:08 GMT -5
The complaints here are about the games that the season ticket holders get. There are 0 out of conference high major home games on this schedule. Zero. There's not a single home game on this schedule any ticket holder would be excited about. Here are last year's KenPoms for the home games on this schedule Stonehill : 359 Buffalo : 348 North Dakota : 236 Elon : 317 Dartmouth : 336 Le Moyne : 302 I know your shtick is "look what this other team did why can't we do this", but the same people here complaining would be complaining more about this schedule than ours. Fairfield is a challenging game, Notre Dame is a high major, and even Mount St. Mary's and Albany are as good as the best home game on this schedule. This schedule actually makes me feel better about ours.
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Post by EtomicB on Aug 30, 2024 18:15:10 GMT -5
The complaints here are about the games that the season ticket holders get. There are 0 out of conference high major home games on this schedule. Zero. There's not a single home game on this schedule any ticket holder would be excited about. Here are last year's KenPoms for the home games on this schedule Stonehill : 359 Buffalo : 348 North Dakota : 236 Elon : 317 Dartmouth : 336 Le Moyne : 302 I know your shtick is "look what this other team did why can't we do this", but the same people here complaining would be complaining more about this schedule than ours. Fairfield is a challenging game, Notre Dame is a high major, and even Mount St. Mary's and Albany are as good as the best home game on this schedule. This schedule actually makes me feel better about ours. I agree that some of the complaints come from season ticket holders and their issues with the schedule are warranted but you have to be fair TC, my post was in response to a post stating the following: Nothing is wrong with this schedule if the MTE is replaced with a real one where we'd get 2-3 Top 100 teams. Honestly, there is little difference in our schedule and most of our BE peers if you take out the St. Francis and MSM games and replace them with an average P5 team or two one would expect to play in a MTE, say a Oregon, Ole Miss, Oklahoma, etc.
The OP was talking about the overall competitiveness of the schedule not how the weak schedule was shortchanging season ticket holders. Leaving this context out of your response changes the intent of my post. Again you & others compared ND/Shrewsberry starting out to Cooley starting out at Gtown a lot last season so I believe mentioning them in this conversation is appropriate.
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Post by hsaxon on Aug 31, 2024 20:41:45 GMT -5
With the way the roster looked before we landed Halaikouna and Diouf, part of me is quite surprised people are upset with this schedule. We were about to enter the season under-manned. Since the signings, we are not under-manned, but we are still young AF. Another part of me is never surprised at some of the opinions on this board. 20 league games plus three good non-con games - we will be tested enough. Totally fine.
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Post by hsaxon on Aug 31, 2024 20:43:16 GMT -5
The complaints here are about the games that the season ticket holders get. There are 0 out of conference high major home games on this schedule. Zero. There's not a single home game on this schedule any ticket holder would be excited about. Here are last year's KenPoms for the home games on this schedule Stonehill : 359 Buffalo : 348 North Dakota : 236 Elon : 317 Dartmouth : 336 Le Moyne : 302 I know your shtick is "look what this other team did why can't we do this", but the same people here complaining would be complaining more about this schedule than ours. Fairfield is a challenging game, Notre Dame is a high major, and even Mount St. Mary's and Albany are as good as the best home game on this schedule. This schedule actually makes me feel better about ours. ND is a very solid, big-time home game.
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Post by hoyaatheart55 on Sept 5, 2024 17:45:39 GMT -5
I’ll say it…I miss hoyaboya’s contributions 🫢 He stirred up interesting conversation and kept the board more active, particularly with his recruiting updates. I’d hate for boya not to be here when we get this thing turned around. #BoyaComeHome
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Post by frozenhoya on Sept 5, 2024 23:45:24 GMT -5
Boya was consistently disingenuous in his comments, serving an agenda rather than honest discource, which proved to be a barrier to frank dialogue, critical or supportive or issue specific. The result was a poisoned environment. The board is much better without his posts.
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Post by TC on Sept 6, 2024 8:59:22 GMT -5
I’ll say it…I miss hoyaboya’s contributions 🫢 He stirred up interesting conversation and kept the board more active, particularly with his recruiting updates. I’d hate for boya not to be here when we get this thing turned around. #BoyaComeHome Go to a Providence board then. If you really miss hoyaboya, you'll get the same thing there as you would have from hoyaboya - absolutely insincere hate of Georgetown Basketball that is solely based around a dumb grudge over the Ed Cooley hire. I'm not being facetious or sarcastic here - whatever void you feel over that guy not being here you could fill by just reading the dumbest posts by Providence fans.
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Post by prhoya on Sept 6, 2024 9:11:31 GMT -5
I’ll say it…I miss hoyaboya’s contributions 🫢 He stirred up interesting conversation and kept the board more active, particularly with his recruiting updates. I’d hate for boya not to be here when we get this thing turned around. #BoyaComeHome Go to a Providence board then. If you really miss hoyaboya, you'll get the same thing there as you would have from hoyaboya - absolutely insincere hate of Georgetown Basketball that is solely based around a dumb grudge over the Ed Cooley hire. I'm not being facetious or sarcastic here - whatever void you feel over that guy not being here you could fill by just reading the dumbest posts by Providence fans. And who will fill the recruiting news void he left? Say what you will of boya, but he was the only poster providing regular recruiting news mentioning GU, top 25 kids or top DMV prospects. Now, HoyaTalk looks like a political blog. 😉
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Post by bigskyhoya on Sept 6, 2024 9:15:03 GMT -5
Go to a Providence board then. If you really miss hoyaboya, you'll get the same thing there as you would have from hoyaboya - absolutely insincere hate of Georgetown Basketball that is solely based around a dumb grudge over the Ed Cooley hire. I'm not being facetious or sarcastic here - whatever void you feel over that guy not being here you could fill by just reading the dumbest posts by Providence fans. And who will fill the recruiting news void he left? Say what you will of boya, but he was the only poster providing regular recruiting news mentioning GU, top 25 kids or top DMV prospects. Now, HoyaTalk looks like a political blog. 😉 Did he announce his retirement from the Board or quietly disappear?
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Post by TrueHoyaBlue on Sept 6, 2024 9:24:42 GMT -5
It seemed like he dropped off when the Seal, Julius, and Jayden commitments happened. But that was likely a coincidence.
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Post by cnyhoya on Sept 6, 2024 9:33:39 GMT -5
A quiet little festival/tournament would have been fun.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Sept 6, 2024 9:39:04 GMT -5
Go to a Providence board then. If you really miss hoyaboya, you'll get the same thing there as you would have from hoyaboya - absolutely insincere hate of Georgetown Basketball that is solely based around a dumb grudge over the Ed Cooley hire. I'm not being facetious or sarcastic here - whatever void you feel over that guy not being here you could fill by just reading the dumbest posts by Providence fans. And who will fill the recruiting news void he left? Say what you will of boya, but he was the only poster providing regular recruiting news mentioning GU, top 25 kids or top DMV prospects. Now, HoyaTalk looks like a political blog. 😉 HoyaTalk's recruiting posts were informative, but tainted by his habit of being on top of every Hoya target that committed elsewhere, but never the Hoya targets that committed to us.
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Post by SSHoya on Sept 6, 2024 9:48:31 GMT -5
And who will fill the recruiting news void he left? Say what you will of boya, but he was the only poster providing regular recruiting news mentioning GU, top 25 kids or top DMV prospects. Now, HoyaTalk looks like a political blog. 😉 Did he announce his retirement from the Board or quietly disappear? He quietly disappeared sometime around June 24th.
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Post by hoya59er on Sept 6, 2024 10:20:11 GMT -5
Have faith. We have good, big, talented new players. While young, we will be competitive. Will be a fun season. Again have faith and be positive.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Sept 6, 2024 10:47:40 GMT -5
I’ll say it…I miss hoyaboya’s contributions 🫢 He stirred up interesting conversation and kept the board more active, particularly with his recruiting updates. I’d hate for boya not to be here when we get this thing turned around. #BoyaComeHome Go to twitter. Follow the people's posts he posted on here. There's the recruiting gap filled. As for the rest ... the board was more active, but I don't really think they were interesting conversations. Near constant axe-grinding over anything or anyone that wasn't his guy was neither good discussion nor interesting. Do we really need 700 comments on how he thinks Mac McClung is definitely NOT D-1 caliber because Ewing took him over some long-forgotten recruit Boya thought was better? Dude was weird -- anyone who harbors a grudge like that against an 18 year old is not worth having around. And the board being less active has less to do with boya specifically being gone and more to do with there being little real news (esp. with no Kenner) and frankly, there are actually being good news. Most of the content was driven by negative posters in general, but with the last few commits yet no games ... even the negative posters seem to be wait and see mode (to their credit). And lastly, the combination of alternate social media and the Ewing era / The Ewing Era's constant negativity kind of killed this board. I don't know if DFW has ever posted traffic numbers over time, but I imagine it tells a story.
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TC
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Post by TC on Sept 6, 2024 11:08:28 GMT -5
Go to a Providence board then. If you really miss hoyaboya, you'll get the same thing there as you would have from hoyaboya - absolutely insincere hate of Georgetown Basketball that is solely based around a dumb grudge over the Ed Cooley hire. I'm not being facetious or sarcastic here - whatever void you feel over that guy not being here you could fill by just reading the dumbest posts by Providence fans. And who will fill the recruiting news void he left? Say what you will of boya, but he was the only poster providing regular recruiting news mentioning GU, top 25 kids or top DMV prospects. Now, HoyaTalk looks like a political blog. 😉 We had YaBoyNYP who was the best ever at it and then you decided to be all "but you've posted 11 times and the rules are only 10 posts" so maybe the answer is go somewhere else for recruiting news. boya didn't really care about Hoya recruiting all that much, he cared about who we missed so he could slam the program about it.
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Post by SDHoya on Sept 6, 2024 11:16:08 GMT -5
The board will be more active when there is more to post about. It’s still very much the off-season.
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