EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Sept 27, 2024 19:04:34 GMT -5
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EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Sept 28, 2024 17:40:48 GMT -5
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prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Sept 28, 2024 18:21:18 GMT -5
Etomic, thank you for the Big East updates! It’s good to know what other conference foes are doing.
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EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Sept 29, 2024 11:55:23 GMT -5
Wiil Seton Hall surprise again? www.app.com/story/sports/college/2024/09/23/seton-hall-basketball-shaheen-holloway-2024-25-preseason-qa/75290974007/Q. When you have 10 new guys, how does it change your preseason approach to development, instilling the attitude you want and installing your defensive principles? A. “This summer we didn’t have three or four guys on campus; they had to finish up (academically) at their schools, and we had a couple of guys who were injured. So we had about eight guys and we tried to develop them because that’s what we do – we develop guys. And we tried to instill our defensive principles.” Q. Can this be a good rebounding team? A. “I hope so. We’ve got really good size. My guard are big my wings are big. But rebounding ain’t about size – it’s the mental. I tell this team every day: I’m not worried about the physical. I’m worried about the mental part of it. Once we get mentally there, we can be a team that can do some good things.”
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Sept 30, 2024 8:14:11 GMT -5
Again, I agree with you Cooley should be doing more media, but frankly our program has won 4 Big East games over three seasons. Other than the people on HoyaTalk and some additional people, at the end of September 2024, not many people care about Georgetown basketball. To some extent, had Cooley been doing interviews all summer he would have been speaking into a void. Let me ask...now hat Cooley has done an interview, how many people will actually take the half hour to watch it now? Probably not a huge amount, if I had to guess. I am still glad he did it though. If he did that, I expect he'll do more as the season begins to get closer. *I think anybody talking about student engagement has a real problem--you are likely not a student and have no idea what they are doing. The HoyasRising NIL Instagram has posted stories with our players out and about on campus multiple times since students are back. Presumably, Cooley has done some of that too? I don't know. But, I do know he did last year too. I am happy to be proven wrong, but it's easy to say we aren't engaging students when...most people have no clue. And we really do not know. Do you have friends and/or family on campus? Do you visit campus on non-basketball related activity and talk to people there? Is the royal “we” a projection? I include myself in those that have no idea. That was the whole purpose of the post. When I said "we really do not know," I include myself in that group. Yes. If there are those on campus who can provide more insight, I'd love to hear it.
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EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Sept 30, 2024 21:44:59 GMT -5
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jwp91
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Post by jwp91 on Oct 1, 2024 0:35:12 GMT -5
If Georgetown finishes bottom 2 again, this will a miserable place to be.
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kghoya
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Post by kghoya on Oct 1, 2024 7:14:37 GMT -5
If Georgetown finishes bottom 2 again, this will a miserable place to be. As opposed to the current lovely environment?
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jwp91
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Post by jwp91 on Oct 1, 2024 10:03:18 GMT -5
If Georgetown finishes bottom 2 again, this will a miserable place to be. As opposed to the current lovely environment? It gets worse.
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kghoya
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Post by kghoya on Oct 1, 2024 11:36:44 GMT -5
As opposed to the current lovely environment? It gets worse. Yeah I guess. How many active posters do we think even post here any more? The people that left post Gulf Coast embarrassment really aren't anywhere else, right? Maybe Hoya Report but you have to pay for that. I can't imagine that's a profitable enterprise right now
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SSHoya
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Post by SSHoya on Oct 1, 2024 12:07:23 GMT -5
Yeah I guess. How many active posters do we think even post here any more? The people that left post Gulf Coast embarrassment really aren't anywhere else, right? Maybe Hoya Report but you have to pay for that. I can't imagine that's a profitable enterprise right now I'm sure Admin can generate a report. My curiosity is what is the average age of those who still post here. Old guys (like me) portend for a dim future.
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kghoya
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Post by kghoya on Oct 1, 2024 12:53:18 GMT -5
Yeah I guess. How many active posters do we think even post here any more? The people that left post Gulf Coast embarrassment really aren't anywhere else, right? Maybe Hoya Report but you have to pay for that. I can't imagine that's a profitable enterprise right now I'm sure Admin can generate a report. My curiosity is what is the average age of those who still post here. Old guys (like me) portend for a dim future. Yeah I can also understand why admin might not want to share that information. The average age is absolutely north of 40. That might be kind guess.
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hoyaguy
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Post by hoyaguy on Oct 1, 2024 13:57:11 GMT -5
Not directly BE related, but since it gets brought up every so often as a desired addition to the BE by some: Gonzaga is joining the new Pac 12. Also had some murmurs of them trying to poach Memphis (initially turned down, for now), and adding football-only from UConn (nothing solid on this right now). The additions for the Pac 12 are joining the summer of 2026 with a lot to play out, particularly the lawsuit of the Pac 12 against the MW to get some of the poaching/exit fees lowered. If they do, it is suspected they will use the additional funds to go after teams from the AAC. Their basketball conference will be quite good with Gonzaga in 2026 and more so if they get Memphis. And of course some random people trying to claim that the Pac 12 should go after another basketball centric school in Creighton.
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EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Oct 1, 2024 14:38:07 GMT -5
Very nice pull for Uconn..
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Post by Admin on Oct 1, 2024 15:09:43 GMT -5
I'm sure Admin can generate a report. My curiosity is what is the average age of those who still post here. Old guys (like me) portend for a dim future. Yeah I can also understand why admin might not want to share that information. The average age is absolutely north of 40. That might be kind guess. No secrets here: there are some distinct trends on the board. 1. There are usually between 200 and 250 "regular" posters out of 4,892 total, defined as those who log on within a 48 hour weekday period. Site registrations spiked in 2004 (when it moved over from the previous provider), 2007, and 2013. It fell off after COVID. In some years, 200-300 registrations were commonplace. YTD, there have been 42. We still get a lot of lurkers (2,668 yesterday) but they choose not to contribute to the discussion. 2. More of the recent registrants dating back from 2017 registered and have never made a post. I haven't sent a blast e-mail in a number of years reminding them to return here but some appreciate this and some certainly do not. Any thoughts on this from this group are appreciated. 3. Student registrations (esp. those through a georgetown.edu account) dropped off after Ewing. Most don't know we're here. Many don't even know when the basketball team plays. A column on this coming soon, but I suspect that Generation Z doesn't value conversation the way their predecessors do. It is easier to stare at an app than get in the arena and talk about things. 4. The site does not share age with me so I don't know anyone's PII in that respect. As noted before, we used to get more students who are now alumni but most are pre-2015. 5. There are very few self-deletions. Since most of these had 0 posts to begin with, it's not top of mind for them. It escaped me but the site recently passed the 1,000,000 cumulative post mark last month, so it's not exactly a ghost town, although I'm always eager to see more talk about campus issues and other sports than mere politics. Granted, message boards aren't as top of mind to fans as they might have been--Ron's Rivals.com board reflects this as well and the "Balla" board (a former poster here who ran his own message board from 2009-2020) ended with just over 10,000 posts total, but 59 percent of these were listed as from Balla himself. On the other side of the ledger, Texags.com has 64.1 million cumulative posts with over 10,000 paid subscribers. They also have a staff of 20 with an average revenue of $7.2 million per year, so that's an extreme case.
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prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Oct 1, 2024 17:02:43 GMT -5
Do you have friends and/or family on campus? Do you visit campus on non-basketball related activity and talk to people there? Is the royal “we” a projection? I include myself in those that have no idea. That was the whole purpose of the post. When I said "we really do not know," I include myself in that group. Yes. If there are those on campus who can provide more insight, I'd love to hear it. Personally, everyone I know who is there (including Hoya alum living in the DMV, etc) is disconnected from the basketball program. Of course, that could change in late October/early November, but right now nada.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Oct 1, 2024 18:18:41 GMT -5
Yeah I can also understand why admin might not want to share that information. The average age is absolutely north of 40. That might be kind guess. No secrets here: there are some distinct trends on the board. 1. There are usually between 200 and 250 "regular" posters out of 4,892 total, defined as those who log on within a 48 hour weekday period. Site registrations spiked in 2004 (when it moved over from the previous provider), 2007, and 2013. It fell off after COVID. In some years, 200-300 registrations were commonplace. YTD, there have been 42. We still get a lot of lurkers (2,668 yesterday) but they choose not to contribute to the discussion. 2. More of the recent registrants dating back from 2017 registered and have never made a post. I haven't sent a blast e-mail in a number of years reminding them to return here but some appreciate this and some certainly do not. Any thoughts on this from this group are appreciated. 3. Student registrations (esp. those through a georgetown.edu account) dropped off after Ewing. Most don't know we're here. Many don't even know when the basketball team plays. A column on this coming soon, but I suspect that Generation Z doesn't value conversation the way their predecessors do. It is easier to stare at an app than get in the arena and talk about things. 4. The site does not share age with me so I don't know anyone's PII in that respect. As noted before, we used to get more students who are now alumni but most are pre-2015. 5. There are very few self-deletions. Since most of these had 0 posts to begin with, it's not top of mind for them. It escaped me but the site recently passed the 1,000,000 cumulative post mark last month, so it's not exactly a ghost town, although I'm always eager to see more talk about campus issues and other sports than mere politics. Granted, message boards aren't as top of mind to fans as they might have been--Ron's Rivals.com board reflects this as well and the "Balla" board (a former poster here who ran his own message board from 2009-2020) ended with just over 10,000 posts total, but 59 percent of these were listed as from Balla himself. On the other side of the ledger, Texags.com has 64.1 million cumulative posts with over 10,000 paid subscribers. They also have a staff of 20 with an average revenue of $7.2 million per year, so that's an extreme case. Thanks for sharing. The 200-250 regulars does not surprise me. That's about what I would have guessed, though it is actually on the high side for what I would have expected. A few thoughts: 1. Over the last 10 years, there has been little reason for students to want to talk about Georgetown basketball, so it doesn't surprise me that student registrations are low. The sad thing is we've essentially lost a couple of generations of students who are unlikely to be fans as alumni. And the alumni who were around for the 2005-2013 period when things were better are largely in that phase where they're married/have younger kids, and less time for basketball, especially when it's mostly losing as it has been the last several years. 2. While I think message boards are still great, they have generally declined over the years (with some exceptions, including HoyaTalk and some other sports message boards). There are a number of smaller boards on other topics I used to follow or participate in and they have either entirely disappeared (at least one which was the major board for a particular small sport), or they have almost no traffic anymore. Where has this discussion gone? A few places. Facebook Groups is a major place where people discuss topics. Others are things like Discord (which personally, I do not like). But generally, I think a lot of "discussion" (which I wouldn't put in the same category as a message board) is on social media like Instagram or TikTok or whatever else. 3. On the email to people reminding them to come back to HoyaTalk, I would say the timing on this is key. Either do it right before the season starts as a "reminder," or wait until we have some success and then maybe send at the beginning of the Big East season. The problem with the latter approach is we haven't had some success in a while.
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Post by DanMcQ on Oct 1, 2024 19:10:49 GMT -5
Thank goodness /sarcasm
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Post by hibernatinghoyafan on Oct 1, 2024 21:09:57 GMT -5
Any Hoya fans are welcome to join the Georgetown discord. It’s a very active community of young and old Hoya fans. Discord makes it a little easier to just check in, share thoughts, etc.
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EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Oct 1, 2024 21:18:55 GMT -5
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