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Post by DanMcQ on Feb 27, 2024 21:04:09 GMT -5
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Feb 27, 2024 21:05:42 GMT -5
Well, they shot free throws well. smh
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Post by TC on Feb 27, 2024 21:08:09 GMT -5
I know many here hate seeing his takes but you cannot argue this...no culture Pretty sure I can argue this. I haven't seen any parents slamming the team, or kids making coy remarks on the socials, from all reports this is a good locker room. The Coach doesn't dump on the players without taking responsibility himself. There are more games in which this team has rallied back and not quit in situations like tonight than there are in which they got blown out. Sorber is still coming, Mulready is till coming, Williams is still coming, McKenna is there, some people are going to stay, and the portal opens in three weeks.
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Post by Massholya on Feb 27, 2024 21:12:31 GMT -5
And I’m pretty sure we made half those field goals in the first 10 minutes of the game.
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Post by guru on Feb 27, 2024 21:13:26 GMT -5
I know many here hate seeing his takes but you cannot argue this...no culture Pretty sure I can argue this. I haven't seen any parents slamming the team, or kids making coy remarks on the socials, from all reports this is a good locker room. The Coach doesn't dump on the players without taking responsibility himself. There are more games in which this team has rallied back and not quit in situations like tonight than there are in which they got blown out. Sorber is still coming, Mulready is till coming, Williams is still coming, McKenna is there, some people are going to stay, and the portal opens in three weeks. so reload and hope things change? Amazing that you’re still slamming previous regimes and trying to distract from the flaming wreck in front of us. Very few are buying it.
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Post by hoyaboya on Feb 27, 2024 21:18:18 GMT -5
Remember when a big part of this board thought we had a good 3 pt defense because we played awful teams that missed a ton of open shots? Good time those were. It was only one poster - TC. Who is usually wrong, like his buddy Hilltop Hoops.
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Post by kghoya on Feb 27, 2024 21:24:21 GMT -5
Feel like they wasted a season of Fielder
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Post by dense on Feb 27, 2024 21:25:54 GMT -5
Today Supreme looked like a MAAC player
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Post by EtomicB on Feb 27, 2024 21:26:31 GMT -5
I know many here hate seeing his takes but you cannot argue this...no culture Pretty sure I can argue this. I haven't seen any parents slamming the team, or kids making coy remarks on the socials, from all reports this is a good locker room. The Coach doesn't dump on the players without taking responsibility himself. There are more games in which this team has rallied back and not quit in situations like tonight than there are in which they got blown out. Sorber is still coming, Mulready is till coming, Williams is still coming, McKenna is there, some people are going to stay, and the portal opens in three weeks. What's the team's culture or identity? What's been established, that can be built upon next season? When I look thru the portal thread every position is called into question. I would love for you to be correct but I'm not seeing it...
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Post by hoya18 on Feb 27, 2024 21:28:34 GMT -5
Another example of doing the same thing and getting the same results. Every game, the same insanity. COOK has NO HANDS. How many passes did he mishandle? Heath, Heath what a disaster, occasional three, not defense, looks for confrontations, bad passes. Epps. I am tying to emulate PRIMO that is all.
No defense on picks and rolls to the basket. lazy passes, no boxing out, no team defense. Correct that and lose by 30 and i am fine. Sadly, they are not doing that.
I do not mind losing when you are making progress. Not a moment where I would say that. Cooley and staff are trying but when you have a team like this not much you can do. I still wonder if the weight room is under construction.
One more point. As Mark Cuban noted, he rebuilt the Dallas Mavs Home to be an experience that people wanted to come to. If you don't have that just watch on TV. Well to summarize the Phone Booth has no life, attraction. Watching on TV is even less desirable. Sub Par announcements with analytics.
We are at ROCK BOTTOM as a PROGRAM!
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Post by EtomicB on Feb 27, 2024 21:28:51 GMT -5
Hard for me to see a team play defense this poorly and not question the effort of the players. I don’t see lapses as much as I see a physically inferior team. But I do think the intensity has dropped recently. Feel like these guys are mentally over this year now. The coach isn't using the term "sorry asses" if he felt his team played hard but was just out manned.
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Post by thedragon on Feb 27, 2024 21:30:46 GMT -5
Today Supreme looked like a MAAC player Supreme looks mentally and physically drained to me. I think he will be a great 5th year backup big man next year (I hope). 10 to 15 minutes of hard work in the paint a night. He was asked to do a lot this year after Akoks departure. He started rocky. Really hit a nice stretch early in BE play and now has hit the wall. Kid should be proud to average 11 and 8 in the Big East. Basically his production at Fairfield.
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Post by mchoya on Feb 27, 2024 21:32:30 GMT -5
I know many here hate seeing his takes but you cannot argue this...no culture Pretty sure I can argue this. I haven't seen any parents slamming the team, or kids making coy remarks on the socials, from all reports this is a good locker room. The Coach doesn't dump on the players without taking responsibility himself. There are more games in which this team has rallied back and not quit in situations like tonight than there are in which they got blown out. Sorber is still coming, Mulready is till coming, Williams is still coming, McKenna is there, some people are going to stay, and the portal opens in three weeks. If the portal is going to save us, then why didn't we aggressively recruit the portal this past offseason to avoid going 2-18 in conference? Why couldn't we build a 6 or 8 conference win team that would give us a springboard to a tournament appearance in year two? Why do we expect the braintrust that brought us "go all in on Hunter Dickinson and Cam Spencer and don't have a plan B" to have any better luck this offseason?
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Post by DanMcQ on Feb 27, 2024 21:48:06 GMT -5
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Post by thedragon on Feb 27, 2024 21:50:08 GMT -5
Pretty sure I can argue this. I haven't seen any parents slamming the team, or kids making coy remarks on the socials, from all reports this is a good locker room. The Coach doesn't dump on the players without taking responsibility himself. There are more games in which this team has rallied back and not quit in situations like tonight than there are in which they got blown out. Sorber is still coming, Mulready is till coming, Williams is still coming, McKenna is there, some people are going to stay, and the portal opens in three weeks. What's the team's culture or identity? What's been established, that can be built upon next season? When I look thru the portal thread every position is called into question. I would love for you to be correct but I'm not seeing it... It's a fair Q. And I think the answer is - Cooley is the culture right now. Year 1 was a punt for all the reasons many have listed and others have disagreed with. No matter where you stand it's been an F year (Cooley called it an F- I believe). But it's essentially behind us. You see it in the parents of players and recruits on social media as well as interviews with future top prospects. Everything is about Cooley and faith in his track record and bringing Gtown back. The question for me becomes with a full year of resources built up and a dedicated staff member to building a plan - will that Cooley Culture turn into a Georgetown culture? Cooley got a pass from me for year 1 no matter the results (and these have tested that resolve). He switched jobs in a national media story manner. And came to a dumpster fire. There was hope for improvement but reality was reality. 5 BE wins was going to be a success. I could care less if it ends up being 2. I now want to see hard evidence of a turning of the corner. For 6M a year, he should be held to a high standard. He needs to check 5 boxes this season 1. Incoming recruiting class. CHECK. 2. Retention of Key players. While no one is untouchable I'd like to see the vast majority of Epps, Styles, Cook, Brumbaugh, Fielder return. 3. Portal Season. 3a. Flash the cash. I want to see the talk be put in action. That doesn't mean frivolous spending. But if we're big budget spending now - we need to land at least 1 stud. And several solid BE level players. 4. Competent Social/Comms overhaul. We don't have to reinvent the wheel - just up our game to D1 standards. 5. Be a competitive BE team on the court next season. At or near .500 in BE play.
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Post by seaweed on Feb 27, 2024 21:51:38 GMT -5
A little surprised the line didn’t move on that news. We cover at the very least. Nearly 30 years of posting here and I have never been so wrong.
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Post by TC on Feb 27, 2024 21:52:13 GMT -5
If the portal is going to save us, then why didn't we aggressively recruit the portal this past offseason to avoid going 2-18 in conference? Why couldn't we build a 6 or 8 conference win team that would give us a springboard to a tournament appearance in year two? What about winning six games in year one means you will get an at large bid in year two? I get that it makes us all feel better if they win 6 or 8 games and this really sucks only winning 2, but it's no guarantee that you move forward. I don't know that the punt will work - but I really don't buy the arguments being made that two or three more wins would change the perception of the program and provide lubricant in a different way than $2M extra in budget would. Time and money. They've had time to prepare and from everything we've heard they have money.
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Post by hoyaboya on Feb 27, 2024 21:52:29 GMT -5
I know it's year 1, I know the rebuild is going to be tough, but we are somehow worse than we were last season. And at the moment we look like absolute fools for all our machinations to hire Cooley away from Providence. As for the others? Shrewsberry is 10-17. Gates is 8-16. The cupboard was (and is) empty. Why would those two be the only other options?
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Post by hoyaboya on Feb 27, 2024 21:54:54 GMT -5
Seeing Epps attempt horrible shots, I think I understand why he doesn't have points from the floor. He seems to be defended relatively well, but when that happens you don't stay with a bad shot. Epps is a better version of Heath. The way he plays, he simply cannot be a centerpiece of a good team.
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Post by hsaxon on Feb 27, 2024 22:03:39 GMT -5
As for the others? Shrewsberry is 10-17. Gates is 8-16. The cupboard was (and is) empty. Why would those two be the only other options? Well, next year is show some very measurable improvement with more potential for the following year. If we don't do well in the portal (reports of Judah Mintz (who had 29 pts tonight)), time to be Editeded.
November 2024, we must "put up."
We are starved for a winner. And starved for BE wins.
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