EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Jan 10, 2024 11:30:18 GMT -5
I understand we have a lot of deficiencies in certain areas, but Cooley had a horrific final 3 minutes there. "3 straight turnovers, that's 1000% on me." -Ed Cooley In his answer to the question @ the 11:45 mark Cooley told the writers they needed to be better too because Gtown needs their help.. He's gotta be referring to the fact that reporters do not travel with the team like they do at PC, if so this is why these relationships needed to be strengthened during the off-season
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Post by 78HOYA78 on Jan 10, 2024 11:30:52 GMT -5
My point as well. We need to at least let the opponent be aware that a 7 footer is in the game. Stand in the middle - hands up (you will be least 8 feet tall) and give some type of defensive posture. For what I see he (Ryan) still has a good attitude. I read yesterday in regards to my question on why we don't use our fouls and the answer was we have a short bench (??). I followed the game online and it seems the turning point was this untimely phantom charge.
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Post by hoyaboya on Jan 10, 2024 11:49:36 GMT -5
"3 straight turnovers, that's 1000% on me." -Ed Cooley In his answer to the question @ the 11:45 mark Cooley told the writers they needed to be better too because Gtown needs their help.. He's gotta be referring to the fact that reporters do not travel with the team like they do at PC, if so this is why these relationships needed to be strengthened during the off-season Cooley is always asking people for more - NIL money from big donors, students/community to show up to games to watch his bad team, reporters to provide better support (which is not at all their job, by the way). He hasn't commented on the arena move to VA, but he is obviously well aware of the precarious situation that puts us in. It almost seems like Cooley thought the Georgetown job would be a better gig before he took it compared to when he got here and looked under the hood. With jobs at places like Michigan (which supposedly pursued him previously) and Indiana likely to open up after this year, I wonder if he would put feelers out there, knowing what he now knows about Georgetown.
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Post by guru on Jan 10, 2024 12:16:07 GMT -5
"3 straight turnovers, that's 1000% on me." -Ed Cooley In his answer to the question @ the 11:45 mark Cooley told the writers they needed to be better too because Gtown needs their help.. He's gotta be referring to the fact that reporters do not travel with the team like they do at PC, if so this is why these relationships needed to be strengthened during the off-season This is such a weird ask of reporters - it's as if he has no idea how the news business works at the moment. Also, "Grown needs their help"? I mean, my goodness. So misguided.
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Post by TC on Jan 10, 2024 12:21:41 GMT -5
Cooley is always asking people for more - NIL money from big donors, students/community to show up to games to watch his bad team Oh no, he's trying to improve our program by doing normal Head Coaching stuff. How horrible. hoyaboya conclusion based on absolutely nothing other than his continual narrative to try to sabotage Ed Cooley : he must be looking for another job
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Post by drquigley on Jan 10, 2024 12:33:31 GMT -5
Cooley is always asking people for more - NIL money from big donors, students/community to show up to games to watch his bad team Oh no, he's trying to improve our program by doing normal Head Coaching stuff. How horrible. hoyaboya conclusion based on absolutely nothing other than his continual narrative to try to sabotage Ed Cooley : he must be looking for another job Agree. What's so horrible about asking the local media (I'm talking to you WAPO) to at least send a reporter to our road games? Plus maybe assigning a veteran reporter to cover the Hoyas and not the revolving door of newbies the Post is using.
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Post by SSHoya on Jan 10, 2024 12:37:29 GMT -5
Interesting that he chose Ish and Rowan for the press conference. Neither had good games with Ish's turnover late and Rowan's benching in the second half. I wonder why. To show that he still has confidence in them? As part of their education in how to handle themselves in front of the press?
I don't take his comment about help from the press as especially weird. I think he may be simply be pleading for more coverage (similar to saying to reporters that they have to learn to ask questions) but that'll happen only by winning and playing better.
In Providence, Friars were essentially the only game in town so the press could concentrate on them and it had success under Cooley.
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Post by guru on Jan 10, 2024 12:39:10 GMT -5
Oh no, he's trying to improve our program by doing normal Head Coaching stuff. How horrible. hoyaboya conclusion based on absolutely nothing other than his continual narrative to try to sabotage Ed Cooley : he must be looking for another job Agree. What's so horrible about asking the local media (I'm talking to you WAPO) to at least send a reporter to our road games? Plus maybe assigning a veteran reporter to cover the Hoyas and not the revolving door of newbies the Post is using. Of course, the Post did in fact send a local reporter to last night's home game. And not having a beat reporter assigned to the team is simply a business decision - it's just a naive ask by Cooley. It's not "horrible" per se, but it makes very little sense. And yes, on the chance that we become a powerhouse again, the calculus could change. But for now it's not up to the local media to help with this rebuild.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jan 10, 2024 12:43:20 GMT -5
Agree. What's so horrible about asking the local media (I'm talking to you WAPO) to at least send a reporter to our road games? Plus maybe assigning a veteran reporter to cover the Hoyas and not the revolving door of newbies the Post is using. Of course, the Post did in fact send a local reporter to last night's home game. And not having a beat reporter assigned to the team is simply a business decision - it's just a naive ask by Cooley. It's not "horrible" per se, but it makes very little sense. And yes, on the chance that we become a powerhouse again, the calculus could change. But for now it's not up to the local media to help with this rebuild. Complaining about what Cooley says in the press conference is what the trolls do when there's little to complain about in the game. There's always got to be something.
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Post by bigskyhoya on Jan 10, 2024 13:02:11 GMT -5
Interesting that he chose Ish and Rowan for the press conference. Neither had good games with Ish's turnover late and Rowan's benching in the second half. I wonder why. To show that he still has confidence in them? As part of their education in how to handle themselves in front of the press? I don't take his comment about help from the press as especially weird. I think he may be simply be pleading for more coverage (similar to saying to reporters that they have to learn to ask questions) but that'll happen only by winning and playing better. In Providence, Friars were essentially the only game in town so the press could concentrate on them and it had success under Cooley. I thought it was more that Heath and Bristol were playing well and Cooley properly kept them in, as opposed to a decision to bench Rowan. Ish, on the other hand, gives us very little if he is not hitting the three. More Fielder please.
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Post by SSHoya on Jan 10, 2024 13:05:14 GMT -5
Agree. What's so horrible about asking the local media (I'm talking to you WAPO) to at least send a reporter to our road games? Plus maybe assigning a veteran reporter to cover the Hoyas and not the revolving door of newbies the Post is using. Of course, the Post did in fact send a local reporter to last night's home game. And not having a beat reporter assigned to the team is simply a business decision - it's just a naive ask by Cooley. It's not "horrible" per se, but it makes very little sense. And yes, on the chance that we become a powerhouse again, the calculus could change. But for now it's not up to the local media to help with this rebuild. Actually, the WaPo did not assign a reporter to cover the Hoyas. The article in the WaPo was written by Patrick Stevens who is an AP sports reporter who covers the DMV and is published by various media outlets.
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Post by thedragon on Jan 10, 2024 13:44:41 GMT -5
Interesting that he chose Ish and Rowan for the press conference. Neither had good games with Ish's turnover late and Rowan's benching in the second half. I wonder why. To show that he still has confidence in them? As part of their education in how to handle themselves in front of the press? I don't take his comment about help from the press as especially weird. I think he may be simply be pleading for more coverage (similar to saying to reporters that they have to learn to ask questions) but that'll happen only by winning and playing better. In Providence, Friars were essentially the only game in town so the press could concentrate on them and it had success under Cooley. Noticed this too. Felt like a coaching moment where the 2 guys with roughest games asked to podium to show he still has confidence in them. As for the plea to writers- as others have said, he's trying to rally engagement. But he has to come to grips with the fact that only winning will cure those ills.
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Post by prhoya on Jan 10, 2024 14:00:37 GMT -5
Of course, the Post did in fact send a local reporter to last night's home game. And not having a beat reporter assigned to the team is simply a business decision - it's just a naive ask by Cooley. It's not "horrible" per se, but it makes very little sense. And yes, on the chance that we become a powerhouse again, the calculus could change. But for now it's not up to the local media to help with this rebuild. Complaining about what Cooley says in the press conference is what the trolls do when there's little to complain about in the game. There's always got to be something. I don’t see how that’s trolling. Yes, Cooley looks desperate, but it’s also true. I like it. It’s a building-bridges move by Cooley. It’s the opposite of what La Famiglia would do. The problem is the business side for the media.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Jan 10, 2024 14:02:07 GMT -5
Of course, the Post did in fact send a local reporter to last night's home game. And not having a beat reporter assigned to the team is simply a business decision - it's just a naive ask by Cooley. It's not "horrible" per se, but it makes very little sense. And yes, on the chance that we become a powerhouse again, the calculus could change. But for now it's not up to the local media to help with this rebuild. Complaining about what Cooley says in the press conference is what the trolls do when there's little to complain about in the game. There's always got to be something. Yep. I think it's fine to criticize Cooley. In fact, I have done it a bunch the last 24 hours. I think the end of the Seton Hall game was handled poorly, he should not have brought in Massoud at the end, I did not agree with the decision to foul at the end (not meaning to reopen that debate, I get there are those who disagree, which is fine -- just an example of where I didn't like what he did), and I think he is playing Massoud way too much given how awful he has been. But there are some people who just want to dump on Cooley as much as possible. Criticizing him for saying he wants the local press to help support the team and get it coverage? I mean that's an innocuous line. It doesn't mean a whole lot, but by all means lets over analyze it. The Cooley detractors need to recall that Patrick Ewing is probably one of the worst college basketball coaches ever, and he survived at Georgetown for 5 years, including an 0-20 season. Ed Cooley is our coach, he will be our coach for a long time, and that's not changing. I am disappointed in this season, but also confident he will improve. The stuff about him looking elsewhere is silly and I think boya's wishful thinking more than anything. *To be clear, I don't think it's necessarily trolling to criticize what Cooley says, though I think in this instance, it's really not a big deal and so could be interpreted that way. But, to suggest that Cooley might look elsewhere after this season is trolling. While I agree that Cooley may not have fully grasped how poor our program was when he took the job, his daughter did go to the school for 4 years. The idea that he had no clue how things operated there seems silly to me.
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Post by SSHoya on Jan 10, 2024 14:19:00 GMT -5
Interesting that he chose Ish and Rowan for the press conference. Neither had good games with Ish's turnover late and Rowan's benching in the second half. I wonder why. To show that he still has confidence in them? As part of their education in how to handle themselves in front of the press? I don't take his comment about help from the press as especially weird. I think he may be simply be pleading for more coverage (similar to saying to reporters that they have to learn to ask questions) but that'll happen only by winning and playing better. In Providence, Friars were essentially the only game in town so the press could concentrate on them and it had success under Cooley. I thought it was more that Heath and Bristol were playing well and Cooley properly kept them in, as opposed to a decision to bench Rowan. Ish, on the other hand, gives us very little if he is not hitting the three. More Fielder please. Didn't mean "benched" in the pejorative sense. I like Rowan. I think he has potential to be a good college level PG with experience and physical development.
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Post by EtomicB on Jan 10, 2024 14:22:12 GMT -5
Of course, the Post did in fact send a local reporter to last night's home game. And not having a beat reporter assigned to the team is simply a business decision - it's just a naive ask by Cooley. It's not "horrible" per se, but it makes very little sense. And yes, on the chance that we become a powerhouse again, the calculus could change. But for now it's not up to the local media to help with this rebuild. Complaining about what Cooley says in the press conference is what the trolls do when there's little to complain about in the game. There's always got to be something. Nah, I(along with many others) complained a lot about PE's press conference quotes during his time at Gtown and we all know too well there was plenty to complain about in the games he coached... Cooley referencing reporters as "team" members who have to "pick their game up" is strange stuff but I get it given what he left at PC.. It's not trolling to talk about what a coach says in a post-game presser in my view.
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Post by prhoya on Jan 10, 2024 15:07:39 GMT -5
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jan 10, 2024 15:20:07 GMT -5
Complaining about what Cooley says in the press conference is what the trolls do when there's little to complain about in the game. There's always got to be something. I don’t see how that’s trolling. Repeatedly complaining and criticizing every little thing, especially unimportant things, is the definition of trolling. Talking about Cooley asking for more press coverage is like posting the attendance after every game as if you are making a relevant point.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jan 10, 2024 15:23:57 GMT -5
I'm fairly sure he said crazy shots, not "bad" -- and he wasn't making a judgement; he was mad at his players for not extending their defense to longer threes. What is not shocking that the casualhoya crew trying to make it sound more negative than it was and then tossing in a paraphrasing to hide a misquote. Reality is that Seton Hall has beaten Marquette, Providence and UConn and we almost beat them, but of course this is a terrible performance, blah, blah, blah. Even more bizarre is the idea that 30 is "too many" threes. I have no idea what team the writers at Casualhoya are watching, but with little to no low post play and exactly one dude who can take a guy off the dribble ... what are people looking for? The strength of this team, if there's any offensively, is in the three. We are not a good team and we are an underdog. Underdogs win upsets by hitting threes. Who are we running these non-3 plays for? The generic "settling for threes" has become the basketball version of "not running enough" that the local drunk screams at the NFL game at the bar. The game has changed, and I am more than okay with a few heat checks 3s with this team.
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Post by prhoya on Jan 10, 2024 16:05:03 GMT -5
I'm fairly sure he said crazy shots, not "bad" -- and he wasn't making a judgement; he was mad at his players for not extending their defense to longer threes. What is not shocking that the casualhoya crew trying to make it sound more negative than it was and then tossing in a paraphrasing to hide a misquote. Reality is that Seton Hall has beaten Marquette, Providence and UConn and we almost beat them, but of course this is a terrible performance, blah, blah, blah. Even more bizarre is the idea that 30 is "too many" threes. I have no idea what team the writers at Casualhoya are watching, but with little to no low post play and exactly one dude who can take a guy off the dribble ... what are people looking for? The strength of this team, if there's any offensively, is in the three. We are not a good team and we are an underdog. Underdogs win upsets by hitting threes. Who are we running these non-3 plays for? The generic "settling for threes" has become the basketball version of "not running enough" that the local drunk screams at the NFL game at the bar. The game has changed, and I am more than okay with a few heat checks 3s with this team. I don't mind the amount of 3s, but that's different from caring about shot quality. Crazy 3s should come at the end of the shot clock as desperation shots. How do we not find ourselves in that situation? By not wasting seconds off the shot clock and continuous player movement on offense. But, Cooley has said that he wants to slow down the offense after opponent's made baskets. When you see Rowan dribbling close to mid-court and everyone standing around for ten seconds, it looks like Cooley is instructing his team to run out the shot clock and shoot late in order to keep the ball away from the opponent and keep scores low.
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