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Post by SSHoya on Mar 22, 2023 11:05:42 GMT -5
Visual up.
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Post by flyoverhoya on Mar 22, 2023 11:05:52 GMT -5
Were there any in Roman Catholic Iona U.? He ended up in Roman Catholic St. John’s University signed by its President, the Roman Catholic Rev. Brian J. Shanley, O.P., S.T.L., Ph.D. Are we that “houler than thou” under our longest-termed president? Btw, when does DeGioia step down? Who removes DeGioia? Whenever he wants because no one can tell him otherwise? Sounds very Putin, Xi and John Thompson… there for life or until they want… I need to find the Jesuit’s education philosophy handbook. I remember how Fr. Healy, Beirne and O’Donovan (and others in middle and high school) explained separately how and why Jesuit educators were rotated from one post to another every 10 or so years. Now, we’re working on the 22nd year of DeGioia’s tenure. Is Georgetown no longer following Jesuit education principles? Were there any accusations of basketball improprieties at Iona? Not that I'm aware of, no. But no one is entitled to the job of being head coach at Georgetown (or anywhere else). Just because Brian Shanley - who was, you may recall, the guy who tried to poach Pitino from Louisville while they were a member of the Big East - has one set of standards and Jack DeGioia, whether given his NCAA role or just his personal feelings about how college sports should be, has another, doesn't mean one is acting more "houler than thou" or in line with "Jesuit education principles" or whatever. Neither Jesus nor Ignatius had much to say on the topic of college basketball, remarkably. In any event, Shanley is not a Jesuit, and neither is DeGioia. I'm sure the decision to hire the first lay president was not taken lightly by the Board at the time, and one of the arguments in favor was the very stability that comes with a longer term of service. Is 22 years too long? Everyone's got an opinion about that, but the opinions of the people that matter most - which is to say, not those of anyone on this message board, yours truly included - do not appear to have settled on the affirmative. And so Jack gets to stay in his role, at least until that ambassadorship to the Vatican opens up ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png) Speaking of too long, how long as Charlie Deacon been Dean of Admissions?
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 22, 2023 11:07:27 GMT -5
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Post by seaweed on Mar 22, 2023 11:07:39 GMT -5
Is the stream working yet? not for me Banner w/ image of Cooley on screen currently w/ Pharrell on background music. Lizzo more appropriate - “ain’t my fault that I’m out here getting loose… blame it on my juice” and so forthright
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Post by Lethal_Interjection on Mar 22, 2023 11:07:40 GMT -5
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 22, 2023 11:08:00 GMT -5
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Post by augustusfinknottle on Mar 22, 2023 11:08:00 GMT -5
Jersey 23 up there. That’s Bass.
Never mind Cooley (20)23
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 22, 2023 11:08:03 GMT -5
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Post by arlingtonhoya05 on Mar 22, 2023 11:08:25 GMT -5
Is the stream choppy for anyone else?
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 22, 2023 11:08:27 GMT -5
Were there any accusations of basketball improprieties at Iona? Not that I'm aware of, no. But no one is entitled to the job of being head coach at Georgetown (or anywhere else). Just because Brian Shanley - who was, you may recall, the guy who tried to poach Pitino from Louisville while they were a member of the Big East - has one set of standards and Jack DeGioia, whether given his NCAA role or just his personal feelings about how college sports should be, has another, doesn't mean one is acting more "houler than thou" or in line with "Jesuit education principles" or whatever. Neither Jesus nor Ignatius had much to say on the topic of college basketball, remarkably. In any event, Shanley is not a Jesuit, and neither is DeGioia. I'm sure the decision to hire the first lay president was not taken lightly by the Board at the time, and one of the arguments in favor was the very stability that comes with a longer term of service. Is 22 years too long? Everyone's got an opinion about that, but the opinions of the people that matter most - which is to say, not those of anyone on this message board, yours truly included - do not appear to have settled on the affirmative. And so Jack gets to stay in his role, at least until that ambassadorship to the Vatican opens up ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png) Speaking of too long, how long as Charlie Deacon been Dean of Admissions? He's C' 64, and has always worked in Admissions. Don't know when he became Dean but Joseph Chalmers signed my admission as Dean in 1973.
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 22, 2023 11:08:43 GMT -5
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 22, 2023 11:08:54 GMT -5
Is the stream choppy for anyone else? Not for me.
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Post by Admin on Mar 22, 2023 11:09:24 GMT -5
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Post by drquigley on Mar 22, 2023 11:09:44 GMT -5
Any other transfer portal players present? Any word on their status vis a vis the new coach?
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 22, 2023 11:10:36 GMT -5
Banner w/ image of Cooley on screen currently w/ Pharrell on background music. Lizzo more appropriate - “ain’t my fault that I’m out here getting loose… blame it on my juice” and so forthright Other than Lizzo, the selection of music is basically what was big 7-10 years ago. Seems about right for Georgetown. (And yes, I am just being sarcastic. ![:))](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/cheesy.png)
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 22, 2023 11:11:28 GMT -5
Thanks for the answer, esp. because I know you to be knowledgeable about this stuff. Is it fair to say that expenditures for men’s basketball have no effect on money spent for other sports? This is not intended as as an argument against Coach Cooley, but the reality is we are now paying about 9 mil. annually for our head coaches. I’m just trying to figure out the trade offs for other student-athletes when someone says “who cares about the cost.” I certainly wouldn't say *no* effect - surely there are some fungible basketball funds that could help support other sports that are instead being used on basketball salaries. How exactly all that internal accounting really shakes out, I don't claim to know (e.g., how exactly NCAA tournament money from the Big East is allocated). There's also an 'opportunity cost' sense in which restricted/targeted giving that might have otherwise gone to some other sport like soccer now goes to basketball, because that's the area of greatest need. While I stand by the claim that *many* donors are quite choosy about where they put their money, others just have a general target amount they're looking to hit each year and are willing to be flexible about where exactly it goes. Me personally, I'm very much not a "who cares about the cost" person, because there are always tradeoffs and opportunity costs and knock-on effects, etc. to everything. Unfortunately, Georgetown's finances are opaque on a good day, even above and beyond the generally Byzantine nature of college sports finances. As a result, we're all left doing a lot of guesswork. Georgetown still fields many more sports than most Universities, right? And we've actually seen an improvement in a number of programs in the last decade or so, correct? I mean, I know lacrosse isn't quite at the heights it was, but we're a soccer school now, and baseball is actually good for the first time in ... ever. Before we get all handwringey about opportunity cost, perhaps we should actually evaluate whether we're seeing anything in that area? Anyway, the error here was the Ewing extension, not Cooley's salary. Compounding the error by hiring an inferior coach would have been a bigger issue than perhaps not having quite as much to spend on a women's basketball coach or something.
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Post by centercourt400s on Mar 22, 2023 11:12:11 GMT -5
Is the stream choppy for anyone else? Not for me. Pretty choppy. Audio not good either, or is that just the actual band? They kind of sound that way at Cap 1 also :-)
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 22, 2023 11:12:50 GMT -5
Nuggets in town to play the Wiz tonight.
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 22, 2023 11:13:22 GMT -5
Pretty choppy. Audio not good either, or is that just the actual band? They kind of sound that way at Cap 1 also :-) Go Pep Band!!
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Post by Lethal_Interjection on Mar 22, 2023 11:13:32 GMT -5
Audio isn't the best, but it's good to see Coach Cooley huge grin on his face ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png)
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