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Post by reformation on Jan 1, 2023 19:01:00 GMT -5
One thought re timing: If this fiasco costs Jack D his job--it would make sense for the new Pres to make the coaching/program decision. As much as we all would like to see immediate change, this might be the right thing to do.(Maybe Jack D announces his retirement at end of yr) I think the damage has already been done and cannot be fixed quickly unless we go the Rick Pitino route. Short term I suspect it's just a cost recovery exercise from the board's perspective.
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Post by prhoya on Jan 2, 2023 12:29:25 GMT -5
On January 8th, 1999, John Thompson unexpectedly resigned, “citing personal issues around a divorce after 35 years of marriage” (quote from the History Project). Food for thought, Pat...
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Post by 77 on Jan 2, 2023 14:42:33 GMT -5
I rarely if ever have posted.
Kamani Young - Assistant Head Coach at U Conn would be a name to strongly consider.
Excellent coach and deserves credit for some of the success at both U of MN and U Conn.
He is ready to be a head coach.
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Post by hoyaboya on Jan 2, 2023 14:46:07 GMT -5
I rarely if ever have posted. Kamani Young - Assistant Head Coach at U Conn would be a name to strongly consider. Excellent coach and deserves credit for some of the success at both U of MN and U Conn. He is ready to be a head coach. What success at U of MN? Why would he be a better candidate than Richard Pitino? |
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Post by 77 on Jan 2, 2023 15:01:59 GMT -5
Was a season ticket holder at U of M.
Kimani had an excellent relationship with the players. Very good X and O guy.. Pitino Jr struggled with the alumni base and rarely could recruit the best players in MN who all went to Duke.
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Jan 2, 2023 15:10:46 GMT -5
Kimani is certainly by all accounts a good up and coming coach. The issue is we can't afford to take anything other than a sure thing. Period.
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Post by 77 on Jan 2, 2023 15:19:22 GMT -5
Sure things are few and far between.
Kimani will be a head coach very soon.
10 years of Big Ten and Big East coaching experience. Hurley does not suffer fools .. whether you like him or not.
Among the assistant coaching ranks he is a darn good one at a major program.
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Post by alleninxis on Jan 2, 2023 15:22:53 GMT -5
You are not handing a Big East job (one of the best ones) over to an assistant coach with zero head coaching experience. This does not happen, this should not happen.
These guys would be overjoyed to get a HC offer at a good CAA or MAAC school, and MAYBE - MAYBE an A10 job. The only assistants that get to walk into P5 jobs off a bench historically are/were Duke guys - because presidents and AD's fawn over and wanted Coach K approval. There is no precedent for it anywhere else. You sit on a P5 bench, get your own smaller program and catapult your career from there. The only examples of assistants to HC jobs at the P5 level are when circumstances create a situation where they are promoted from within when a HC departs. Jerome Tang at K-State might be the closest thing to an assistant > HC at a P5- and it took him two decades of unreal success at Baylor to get it.
The idea of Mike Jones or any other assistant is truly insane to me.
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Post by hoyaguy on Jan 2, 2023 16:00:34 GMT -5
You are not handing a Big East job (one of the best ones) over to an assistant coach with zero head coaching experience. This does not happen, this should not happen. These guys would be overjoyed to get a HC offer at a good CAA or MAAC school, and MAYBE - MAYBE an A10 job. The only assistants that get to walk into P5 jobs off a bench historically are/were Duke guys - because presidents and AD's fawn over and wanted Coach K approval. There is no precedent for it anywhere else. You sit on a P5 bench, get your own smaller program and catapult your career from there. The only examples of assistants to HC jobs at the P5 level are when circumstances create a situation where they are promoted from within when a HC departs. Jerome Tang at K-State might be the closest thing to an assistant > HC at a P5- and it took him two decades of unreal success at Baylor to get it. The idea of Mike Jones or any other assistant is truly insane to me. Mike jones in particular is such an unbalanced idea people throw out there because why would we hire another coach with no college HC experience and many of the people who suggest it have motives and/or still think it needs to be a DC guy and all of these things should be dealbreakers. Maybe as an assistant in waiting to a successful coach, sure. I think Young could be good after some HC experience and if we get a short term fix instead of a younger guy |
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Post by jackofjoy on Jan 2, 2023 17:03:02 GMT -5
You are not handing a Big East job (one of the best ones) over to an assistant coach with zero head coaching experience. This does not happen, this should not happen. These guys would be overjoyed to get a HC offer at a good CAA or MAAC school, and MAYBE - MAYBE an A10 job. The only assistants that get to walk into P5 jobs off a bench historically are/were Duke guys - because presidents and AD's fawn over and wanted Coach K approval. There is no precedent for it anywhere else. You sit on a P5 bench, get your own smaller program and catapult your career from there. The only examples of assistants to HC jobs at the P5 level are when circumstances create a situation where they are promoted from within when a HC departs. Jerome Tang at K-State might be the closest thing to an assistant > HC at a P5- and it took him two decades of unreal success at Baylor to get it. The idea of Mike Jones or any other assistant is truly insane to me. Gun to your head ... Mike Jones or some Bird of Prey/Ronny crony (Amaker as best example)? |
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Post by alleninxis on Jan 2, 2023 17:08:40 GMT -5
Mike Jones for the small % chance he could actually knock the job out of the park and assuming as a DeMatha guy he's hopefully not all that tight with the Thompson flunkies.
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Post by hoyaboya on Jan 2, 2023 17:20:19 GMT -5
Mike Jones for the small % chance he could actually knock the job out of the park and assuming as a DeMatha guy he's hopefully not all that tight with the Thompson flunkies. From what I've heard, that's a bad assumption on the second point - he's a Ronny guy. |
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Post by hoyaboya on Jan 2, 2023 17:21:18 GMT -5
You are not handing a Big East job (one of the best ones) over to an assistant coach with zero head coaching experience. This does not happen, this should not happen. These guys would be overjoyed to get a HC offer at a good CAA or MAAC school, and MAYBE - MAYBE an A10 job. The only assistants that get to walk into P5 jobs off a bench historically are/were Duke guys - because presidents and AD's fawn over and wanted Coach K approval. There is no precedent for it anywhere else. You sit on a P5 bench, get your own smaller program and catapult your career from there. The only examples of assistants to HC jobs at the P5 level are when circumstances create a situation where they are promoted from within when a HC departs. Jerome Tang at K-State might be the closest thing to an assistant > HC at a P5- and it took him two decades of unreal success at Baylor to get it. The idea of Mike Jones or any other assistant is truly insane to me. Gun to your head ... Mike Jones or some Bird of Prey/Ronny crony (Amaker as best example)? Both are bad choices. I'd seriously consider just keeping Ewing, pay him the $12M still owed and let him continue to make a fool out of himself, Ronny and JD. |
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Post by hoyaboya on Jan 2, 2023 17:34:11 GMT -5
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Post by Loyal Hoya on Jan 2, 2023 17:48:55 GMT -5
Ryan Odom, Beilein over Pitino, Brian Dutcher
if you want to go high risk, high reward: Dawn Staley
Odom is the best overall choice - youth, experience, mid-Atlantic ties
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Post by TC on Jan 2, 2023 17:52:04 GMT -5
Gun to your head ... Mike Jones or some Bird of Prey/Ronny crony (Amaker as best example)? Abandon Georgetown and root for Providence or UCONN in both cases. If after all this they cannot do an actual search with an open mind, what hope is there? |
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Post by 77 on Jan 2, 2023 17:58:57 GMT -5
Just want to remind everyone of the all the Hurley Naysayers in 2017 when he was at URI and floated as a candidate for the job Ewing ultimately was given.
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Post by EtomicB on Jan 2, 2023 18:29:21 GMT -5
You are not handing a Big East job (one of the best ones) over to an assistant coach with zero head coaching experience. This does not happen, this should not happen. These guys would be overjoyed to get a HC offer at a good CAA or MAAC school, and MAYBE - MAYBE an A10 job. The only assistants that get to walk into P5 jobs off a bench historically are/were Duke guys - because presidents and AD's fawn over and wanted Coach K approval. There is no precedent for it anywhere else. You sit on a P5 bench, get your own smaller program and catapult your career from there. The only examples of assistants to HC jobs at the P5 level are when circumstances create a situation where they are promoted from within when a HC departs. Jerome Tang at K-State might be the closest thing to an assistant > HC at a P5- and it took him two decades of unreal success at Baylor to get it. The idea of Mike Jones or any other assistant is truly insane to me. Didn't Arizona just do it with Lloyd from Gonzaga? He's killing it btw DePaul just did it too with Stubblefield, who knows how that will work out though? Seeing that Gtown is much more broken off the court than on it I wouldn't mind if they followed DePaul's lead by getting an up & coming AD for the program and letting them make the decision on the next coach. Until I see otherwise I'll continue to say no coach with options will choose Gtown under its current leadership. |
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Post by alleninxis on Jan 2, 2023 18:47:36 GMT -5
Lloyd is certainly the best example, but he was on staff for 20 years at the most consistent program in the country.
Mike Jones is a year and a half in at a college program - and I forgot to add this, but if anyone actually watches Va Tech - he does nothing in-game. Young brought a young, sharp assistant with him from Wofford that runs the offense and calls out sets on the whiteboard. Jone's is there to get some DMV guys in the program and expand the recruiting footprint. That's fine, but 'DawgTalk's assertion that VA Tech didn't take off until he got there last year is laughable. Mike Young is an exceptional coach - and if I were going to offer any support for Jones it is in fact that Mike Young found him as a value add to his program.
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Post by nbhoya on Jan 2, 2023 18:54:38 GMT -5
People are throwing around some really sub-standard nominations for who knows why
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