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Post by hoyarooter on Nov 9, 2022 19:33:05 GMT -5
South Carolina up 3 at home to South Carolina St. at the half. South Carolina St. is #350 (out of 363) in KenPom. South Carolina ends up winning by 3. The Gamecocks are terrible - might be the worst team in the Power 6. Isn't the Big East in the Power 6? |
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Post by hoyaboya on Nov 9, 2022 19:34:36 GMT -5
South Carolina ends up winning by 3. The Gamecocks are terrible - might be the worst team in the Power 6. Isn't the Big East in the Power 6? Touche... I do think we're better than South Carolina and Northwestern, despite how we played last night. Those teams don't have much talent and, like us, also have very poor coaching. |
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Post by hoyarooter on Nov 9, 2022 19:54:07 GMT -5
Isn't the Big East in the Power 6? Touche... I do think we're better than South Carolina and Northwestern, despite how we played last night. Those teams don't have much talent and, like us, also have very poor coaching. Actually, I was referring to DePaul. Nah, not really. |
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Post by seaweed on Nov 10, 2022 14:43:28 GMT -5
Rumor has it 'cuse is playing Man D.
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Post by hoyaboya on Nov 15, 2022 22:18:57 GMT -5
Syracuse lost by 12 to Colgate tonight.
Wake Forest went to OT against Utah Valley.
Our OOC schedule is absolutely atrocious.
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Post by mfk24 on Nov 15, 2022 22:26:24 GMT -5
Syracuse lost by 12 to Colgate tonight. Wake Forest went to OT against Utah Valley. Our OOC schedule is absolutely atrocious. Designed that way to try to collect Ws and overinflated the W-L record at the end of the season when we inevitably miss the NCAA tournament. |
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Post by hoyarooter on Nov 17, 2022 20:20:20 GMT -5
Syracuse lost by 12 to Colgate tonight. Wake Forest went to OT against Utah Valley. Our OOC schedule is absolutely atrocious. I had not seen this. That little piece of news made my otherwise bleak day. No matter how bad we are, I will always take pleasure in Syracuse being bad. |
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Post by hoyaboya on Nov 18, 2022 9:23:26 GMT -5
I think it's impossible to convey how putrid our OOC schedule is...
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Nov 18, 2022 9:44:48 GMT -5
Cal Baptist over Washington.
There are a lot of early season "upsets". Northwestern clearly isn't in that category. I can accept an early L if we are seeing some changes & improvement. I think what has us all so down are the same volume of 3's, the same poor execution on D and the same crappy "I got next" offense. Maybe Pat can get this righted in the next month but it also speaks to why you can't rely on the type of team building we have, which is non-existent. You need to cultivate young talent so that it becomes older talent on your team, not others. You then plug and play with a transfer or two, not 8. Billingsley, Holloway, Riley, Bass, Anglin are the type of players you need to keep for four years with a visible path to minutes.
Terrence Williams got limited run freshman year at Michigan. To the outsider, he was then recruited over with two five stars coming in at his position. Now he is a key cog on a top 25 team in year 3 which is a reasonable path for a player like him (ratings, build, type of game). That is development. Someone must have told him where they saw him in the future for him to stick around at Michigan to see the light at the end of the tunnel. We haven't done that with anybody except Pickett & Blair in the first recruiting class. It's been early minutes or bust.
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Post by prhoya on Nov 18, 2022 9:48:27 GMT -5
Cal Baptist over Washington. There are a lot of early season "upsets". Northwestern clearly isn't in that category. I can accept an early L if we are seeing some changes & improvement. I think what has us all so down are the same volume of 3's, the same poor execution on D and the same crappy "I got next" offense. Maybe Pat can get this righted in the next month but it also speaks to why you can't rely on the type of team building we have, which is non-existent. You need to cultivate young talent so that it becomes older talent on your team, not others. You then plug and play with a transfer or two, not 8. Billingsley, Holloway, Riley, Bass, Anglin are the type of players you need to keep for four years with a visible path to minutes. Terrence Williams got limited run freshman year at Michigan. To the outsider, he was then recruited over with two five stars coming in at his position. Now he is a key cog on a top 25 team in year 3 which is a reasonable path for a player like him (ratings, build, type of game). That is development. Someone must have told him where they saw him in the future for him to stick around at Michigan to see the light at the end of the tunnel. We haven't done that with anybody except Pickett & Blair in the first recruiting class. It's been early minutes or bust. Speaking about former players: Maybe it’s not the players. Holloway would score 25 pts vs. a Patrick Ewing-coached team. |
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Post by mfk24 on Nov 18, 2022 10:23:13 GMT -5
Cal Baptist over Washington. There are a lot of early season "upsets". Northwestern clearly isn't in that category. I can accept an early L if we are seeing some changes & improvement. I think what has us all so down are the same volume of 3's, the same poor execution on D and the same crappy "I got next" offense. Maybe Pat can get this righted in the next month but it also speaks to why you can't rely on the type of team building we have, which is non-existent. You need to cultivate young talent so that it becomes older talent on your team, not others. You then plug and play with a transfer or two, not 8. Billingsley, Holloway, Riley, Bass, Anglin are the type of players you need to keep for four years with a visible path to minutes. Terrence Williams got limited run freshman year at Michigan. To the outsider, he was then recruited over with two five stars coming in at his position. Now he is a key cog on a top 25 team in year 3 which is a reasonable path for a player like him (ratings, build, type of game). That is development. Someone must have told him where they saw him in the future for him to stick around at Michigan to see the light at the end of the tunnel. We haven't done that with anybody except Pickett & Blair in the first recruiting class. It's been early minutes or bust. Speaking about former players: Maybe it’s not the players. Holloway would score 25 pts vs. a Patrick Ewing-coached team. Overall skill level is important but It’s 100% about how the players are utilized. PE doesn’t know what to do with anyone who can’t generate their own offense off the dribble or who can’t post up. |
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Post by conshyhoya on Nov 18, 2022 11:06:30 GMT -5
Cal Baptist over Washington. There are a lot of early season "upsets". Northwestern clearly isn't in that category. I can accept an early L if we are seeing some changes & improvement. I think what has us all so down are the same volume of 3's, the same poor execution on D and the same crappy "I got next" offense. Maybe Pat can get this righted in the next month but it also speaks to why you can't rely on the type of team building we have, which is non-existent. You need to cultivate young talent so that it becomes older talent on your team, not others. You then plug and play with a transfer or two, not 8. Billingsley, Holloway, Riley, Bass, Anglin are the type of players you need to keep for four years with a visible path to minutes. Terrence Williams got limited run freshman year at Michigan. To the outsider, he was then recruited over with two five stars coming in at his position. Now he is a key cog on a top 25 team in year 3 which is a reasonable path for a player like him (ratings, build, type of game). That is development. Someone must have told him where they saw him in the future for him to stick around at Michigan to see the light at the end of the tunnel. We haven't done that with anybody except Pickett & Blair in the first recruiting class. It's been early minutes or bust. Speaking about former players: Maybe it’s not the players. Holloway would score 25 pts vs. a Patrick Ewing-coached team. Beard had that great game but was then benched and played half the minutes he did previously the very next game. Sounds like he is still on the Hoyas. |
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Post by hoyarooter on Nov 18, 2022 19:28:17 GMT -5
I think it's impossible to convey how putrid our OOC schedule is... You're wrong, it's clearly apparent that our schedule is too difficult. We should be playing all Division 2 teams. Also, your previous post about the worst Power 6 conference team hasn't aged well, no matter how bad South Carolina is. |
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Post by prhoya on Nov 19, 2022 17:19:16 GMT -5
KenPom has GU at #134.
Here's our OOC schedule, plus KenPom, the rest of the way:
11/20: vs. LaSalle (KenPom #182)
11/23: AMERICAN (KenPom #308)
11/26: UMBC (KenPom #300)
11/30: at Texas Tech (KenPom #25)
12/03: S. CAROLINA (KenPom #125)
12/07: SIENA (KenPom #239)
12/10: at Syracuse (KenPom #61)
For reference:
Coppin St #295
Green Bay #356
Northwestern #57
LMU #144
Before the season started, how many minutes did you think Primo, Heath, Akok and Murray were going to play in the American and UMBC games?
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Post by hoyaboya on Nov 20, 2022 12:21:51 GMT -5
I think it's impossible to convey how putrid our OOC schedule is... You're wrong, it's clearly apparent that our schedule is too difficult. We should be playing all Division 2 teams. Also, your previous post about the worst Power 6 conference team hasn't aged well, no matter how bad South Carolina is. Furman beats South Carolina 79-60. I stand by my earlier comment that South Carolina is terrible. |
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Post by hoyaboya on Nov 20, 2022 12:22:07 GMT -5
I think it's impossible to convey how putrid our OOC schedule is... You're wrong, it's clearly apparent that our schedule is too difficult. We should be playing all Division 2 teams. Also, your previous post about the worst Power 6 conference team hasn't aged well, no matter how bad South Carolina is. Furman beats South Carolina 79-60. I stand by my earlier comment that South Carolina is terrible. |
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Post by hoyaroc on Nov 20, 2022 14:25:48 GMT -5
You're wrong, it's clearly apparent that our schedule is too difficult. We should be playing all Division 2 teams. Also, your previous post about the worst Power 6 conference team hasn't aged well, no matter how bad South Carolina is. Furman beats South Carolina 79-60. I stand by my earlier comment that South Carolina is terrible. They are terrible until they play Gtown. There’s no easy games for the Hoyas. |
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Post by hoyaatheart55 on Nov 20, 2022 15:04:51 GMT -5
Furman beats South Carolina 79-60. I stand by my earlier comment that South Carolina is terrible. They are terrible until they play Gtown. There’s no easy games for the Hoyas. Now you’re getting it |
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Nov 21, 2022 15:01:01 GMT -5
I'm watching Texas Tech - Creighton now. TT pressures every second. Creighton has 9 TO's in the first 13 minutes. We might have 20 by halftime vs TT
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Post by drquigley on Nov 21, 2022 15:53:52 GMT -5
I'm watching Texas Tech - Creighton now. TT pressures every second. Creighton has 9 TO's in the first 13 minutes. We might have 20 by halftime vs TT Watching it too. Creighton defense is even better. Nevermind the turnovers. We may not score 50 points against either. |
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