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Post by hoyaboya on Oct 26, 2022 17:04:13 GMT -5
We have the 4th weakest schedule, among 11 teams, in the conference that has the weakest scheduling overall among Power 6 conferences. How is that "middle of the pack"? Are you basing that off of a different set of stats? Because if not idk how you are getting that out of this chart unless you’re just making it up, the BE average non conf on the chart looks better than 4 of the power 5. And maybe it’s just the way the images are displayed but it looks like we have the 5th weakest schedule placing us at 7th not 4th Edit: if you mean weakest scheduling overall when referring to the conference idk if that’s true, do you have something to point to bc idk where to find that It's the second chart in the tweet: |
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Post by guru on Oct 26, 2022 17:11:16 GMT -5
After all the moaning and wailing on here about the schedule, am I the only one surprised to see GU pretty much in the middle of the pack, according to this graphic?
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Post by conshyhoya on Oct 26, 2022 18:08:03 GMT -5
Are you basing that off of a different set of stats? Because if not idk how you are getting that out of this chart unless you’re just making it up, the BE average non conf on the chart looks better than 4 of the power 5. And maybe it’s just the way the images are displayed but it looks like we have the 5th weakest schedule placing us at 7th not 4th Edit: if you mean weakest scheduling overall when referring to the conference idk if that’s true, do you have something to point to bc idk where to find that It's the second chart in the tweet: Quad 1 games by conference would be skewed since not all conferences have the same amount of teams. I don't feel like doing the math so it may end up in this order but highly unlikely. |
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Post by calhoya on Oct 26, 2022 18:43:59 GMT -5
Let’s let the Hoyas beat the teams on this year’s schedule before we worry about playing better opponents.
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Post by hoyaguy on Oct 26, 2022 21:40:22 GMT -5
It's the second chart in the tweet: Quad 1 games by conference would be skewed since not all conferences have the same amount of teams. I don't feel like doing the math so it may end up in this order but highly unlikely. Yeah this chart is kind of weird af (considering the variation of conference sizes) took me a sec but checking the avg number of Q1 games per team in each conference has the ACC worse than us Edit: The only thing the total number of quad 1 games by conference proves is that the Big 12 is very solid and @boya this chart shows that by the Q1 metric we are tied for third most games in the conference and I am not saying the schedule is great (I am not big fan of how they set up the non conf but it's done so whatever) |
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Oct 28, 2022 8:47:11 GMT -5
Non Conference Schedule Strength middle of the pack for the conference but much better than i expected as this metric improves the free ticket offers decline and ticket sales increase as the quality of the games increase twitter.com/i/web/status/1585292165680332800Also side note I wanna know what kind of stuff St Mary’s is on in the top right of that chart. There’s no exact numbers but it looks like they have the hardest non conf in the country lol St. Mary's schedule has teams ranked: 7, 19, 64, 66, 67, 97, 100, 120, 134, 137, 138, 144, 269. The real key to a good OOC is not necessarily stacking yourself with top 25 type teams (though that is one way), but rather avoiding the really awful ones like the bad SWAC/MEAC teams that really drag it down. Except for the 269 game (which is Southern, best ranked SWAC team right now), St. Mary's OOC is all top 150 games, with 4 in the top 100. A look at some of the other higher OOCs: Alabama: 3, 7, 31, 34, 82, 131, 167, 217, 222, 319 Auburn: 34, 36, 39, 104, 113, 115, 124, 162, 174, 234, 305 Michigan State: 1, 3, 18, 20, 43, 181, 225, 241, 261 Memphis: 13, 18, 39, 45, 48, 49, 66, 94, 310, 321, 344 So basically, for a good OOC, you either need to avoid the bottom dwellers and play a lot of 100-150 type teams, or play some of the bad teams and make up for it with top 30ish type games. That Michigan State schedule is really tough. |
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Post by hoyaboya on Oct 29, 2022 10:23:04 GMT -5
"It’s been a rough few years for Wildcat fans. Despite the early success under Collins, the program has regressed in recent years. Northwestern is not only no longer a factor in the Big Ten, but hasn’t even been able to finish at .500 over the last five seasons. The talent has regressed and the star power has decreased. It’s been a rough run. Those struggles have now put Collins’s job firmly on the line as Northwestern enters his 10th season at the helm. It’s put up or shut up time for Collins and his group. The good news is Collins projects to have plenty of experience on his roster and more than enough pieces to improve from last season’s mark. The Wildcats return four starters and have two players capable of getting some All-Big Ten mentions. Unfortunately, the question is how much the team can improve. And that likely will end up being insufficient for fans and the administration to accept as the Wildcats seem poised for another underwhelming finish. Big Ten Prediction: 13th Place" www.btpowerhouse.com/2022/10/28/23428078/2022-23-northwestern-wildcats-basketball-season-preview-team-predictions-big-ten-stats-collins |
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Post by professorhoya on Oct 29, 2022 13:44:56 GMT -5
"It’s been a rough few years for Wildcat fans. Despite the early success under Collins, the program has regressed in recent years. Northwestern is not only no longer a factor in the Big Ten, but hasn’t even been able to finish at .500 over the last five seasons. The talent has regressed and the star power has decreased. It’s been a rough run. Those struggles have now put Collins’s job firmly on the line as Northwestern enters his 10th season at the helm. It’s put up or shut up time for Collins and his group. The good news is Collins projects to have plenty of experience on his roster and more than enough pieces to improve from last season’s mark. The Wildcats return four starters and have two players capable of getting some All-Big Ten mentions. Unfortunately, the question is how much the team can improve. And that likely will end up being insufficient for fans and the administration to accept as the Wildcats seem poised for another underwhelming finish. Big Ten Prediction: 13th Place" www.btpowerhouse.com/2022/10/28/23428078/2022-23-northwestern-wildcats-basketball-season-preview-team-predictions-big-ten-stats-collinsI feel ya. Got to hurt to have your two schools picked last (Demons and Bulldogs). Slim Pickens in Chicagoland Whose the best ncaa school. Loyola? Circle? Are you going to any games at Wintrust this year? |
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Post by hoyaboya on Oct 29, 2022 18:14:36 GMT -5
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Post by bluegray79 on Oct 30, 2022 17:13:53 GMT -5
Huh -- TTech is the OOC opponent I worry most about (South Carolina and Cuse are second & third). O.K., it's a full month away and UTEP is only a scrimmage. Still, I want to know if the TTech coaches are any good or is this something to have a teeny bit of hope about. Don't know much about UTEP - any good?
Sorry if this is the very kind of jumping to conclusions that we are just not smart to do based solely on partially reported scrimmages. I promise to stop once the season is underway and we have more real info to go on.
Go Hoyas
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Post by hoyas315 on Oct 30, 2022 18:02:19 GMT -5
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Post by hibernatinghoyafan on Oct 30, 2022 18:07:57 GMT -5
Huh -- TTech is the OOC opponent I worry most about (South Carolina and Cuse are second & third). O.K., it's a full month away and UTEP is only a scrimmage. Still, I want to know if the TTech coaches are any good or is this something to have a teeny bit of hope about. Don't know much about UTEP - any good? Sorry if this is the very kind of jumping to conclusions that we are just not smart to do based solely on partially reported scrimmages. I promise to stop once the season is underway and we have more real info to go on. Go Hoyas South Carolina shouldn’t worry you. Have a SF out injured and GG has struggled in their exhibitions so far. Kid is only 17 so to expect him to carry a roster is a difficult load. Texas Tech and Wake are the only two schools that worry me but we should be able to beat Wake if we play well. |
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Post by hoyas315 on Nov 1, 2022 18:35:59 GMT -5
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Post by hoyaboya on Nov 2, 2022 8:29:46 GMT -5
CBS Sports: "Collins will forever be the first coach to take Northwestern to the NCAA Tournament. He'll always have that achievement to celebrate. But it's impossible to argue against the idea that pretty much everything since that magical 2016-17 season has been rough." Northwestern had three very odd departures to swallow. Pete Nance leaving for North Carolina makes sense, but it still stings. Ryan Young leaving a starting gig at Northwestern for an off-the-bench role at Duke certainly makes sense, but it still hurts. Prized recruit Casey Simmons also quietly bounced and ended up at Yale which is absolutely gutting for Collins who believed he had uncovered a potential big-time difference-maker. Northwestern enters the season extremely thin. 247sports.com/LongFormArticle/College-basketball-hot-seat-Patrick-Ewing-Kevin-Keatts-headline-CBS-Sports-coaches-who-need-to-win-big-196625727/#196625727_5 |
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Nov 2, 2022 8:43:58 GMT -5
Huh -- TTech is the OOC opponent I worry most about (South Carolina and Cuse are second & third). O.K., it's a full month away and UTEP is only a scrimmage. Still, I want to know if the TTech coaches are any good or is this something to have a teeny bit of hope about. Don't know much about UTEP - any good? Sorry if this is the very kind of jumping to conclusions that we are just not smart to do based solely on partially reported scrimmages. I promise to stop once the season is underway and we have more real info to go on. Go Hoyas We should check in with Sibley on that scouting report. Didn't he end up at UTEP? |
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Post by BSM on Nov 2, 2022 13:02:29 GMT -5
Definition of madness--Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Has Syracuse scheduled a Court naming, Dedication, etc. against Georgetown and actually won one of these? |
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Post by hoyas315 on Nov 2, 2022 15:32:57 GMT -5
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Post by hoyaboya on Nov 4, 2022 16:32:46 GMT -5
Highlighted by CBS Sports nationally for our weak schedule: "College basketball schedules 2022-23: Teams with the easiest slates this season Every year there are teams in college basketball that schedule aggressively in the nonconference. And, every year, there's teams that do quite the opposite. Today, after highlighting the former earlier in the week, we're going to highlight the latter... Schedule thoughts: Under Patrick Ewing, Georgetown has scheduled soft for years. And this season? Well, it's not much different. The Big 12-Big East battle against No. 25 Texas Tech is really its only saving grace here. That's the only team on the Hoyas' nonconference schedule even generating votes in the AP Top 25 preseason poll. It's probably going to be an ugly season regardless for the Hoyas but the nonconference slate is equally ugly." www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaabk/college-basketball-schedules-2022-23-teams-with-the-easiest-slates-this-season/ar-AA13KBb5 |
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Post by hoyaboya on Nov 8, 2022 19:55:43 GMT -5
South Carolina up 3 at home to South Carolina St. at the half. South Carolina St. is #350 (out of 363) in KenPom.
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Post by hoyaboya on Nov 8, 2022 22:42:52 GMT -5
South Carolina up 3 at home to South Carolina St. at the half. South Carolina St. is #350 (out of 363) in KenPom. South Carolina ends up winning by 3. The Gamecocks are terrible - might be the worst team in the Power 6. |
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