hoyaboya
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Post by hoyaboya on May 17, 2022 8:18:05 GMT -5
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Post by pioneeer on May 17, 2022 9:37:17 GMT -5
Good morning Bryson:
Welcome to Georgetown University!!!
As a fan, I wish you success as a student and a member of the Basketball team. Georgetown University is a beautiful place to attend school. Please know that we wish you a smooth and trouble free journey to a better good! To paraphrase, we wish you God’s speed! 🙏🏽💕
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iowa80
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Post by iowa80 on May 17, 2022 10:55:25 GMT -5
Who is that guy and why should I care what he has to say?
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hoyaroc
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Post by hoyaroc on May 17, 2022 16:10:35 GMT -5
Who is that guy and why should I care what he has to say? You shouldn’t care he’s a nobody.
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DFW HOYA
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Post by DFW HOYA on May 17, 2022 20:02:19 GMT -5
Who is that guy and why should I care what he has to say? You shouldn’t care he’s a nobody. That nobody is a Georgetown Law grad and a Northwestern MBA who runs a marketing consulting firm in New York. He may not be the kind of person will jump on Twitter feeds after a win over a really bad MEAC team and exclaim "We're back!" but he speaks for a segment of fans out there, the small-c casual fans that follow college basketball, that look from a distance at Georgetown, and ask, "what the #$%^ is going on down there?" To the outside this is a dysfunctional program that seems unwilling to look to the future when the past offers so many more memories. I don't know of many Big East fans concerned that in year six, a 60 year first time head coach is going to pull a complete 180 and march through college basketball. If any other Big East team other than DePaul had gone 0-20 and did nothing more than hire one new assistant coach, we'd be collectively asking questions if that school's administration was even committed to major college basketball anymore. Instead, the slogan for 2022-23 is "Remain calm. All is well."
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prhoya
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Post by prhoya on May 17, 2022 21:17:12 GMT -5
You shouldn’t care he’s a nobody. That nobody is a Georgetown Law grad and a Northwestern MBA who runs a marketing consulting firm in New York. He may not be the kind of person will jump on Twitter feeds after a win over a really bad MEAC team and exclaim "We're back!" but he speaks for a segment of fans out there, the small-c casual fans that follow college basketball, that look from a distance at Georgetown, and ask, "what the #$%^ is going on down there?" To the outside this is a dysfunctional program that seems unwilling to look to the future when the past offers so many more memories. I don't know of many Big East fans concerned that in year six, a 60 year first time head coach is going to pull a complete 180 and march through college basketball. If any other Big East team other than DePaul had gone 0-20 and did nothing more than hire one new assistant coach, we'd be collectively asking questions if that school's administration was even committed to major college basketball anymore. Instead, the slogan for 2022-23 is "Remain calm. All is well." To the outside and the inside.
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dense
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Post by dense on May 17, 2022 21:22:47 GMT -5
You shouldn’t care he’s a nobody. That nobody is a Georgetown Law grad and a Northwestern MBA who runs a marketing consulting firm in New York. He may not be the kind of person will jump on Twitter feeds after a win over a really bad MEAC team and exclaim "We're back!" but he speaks for a segment of fans out there, the small-c casual fans that follow college basketball, that look from a distance at Georgetown, and ask, "what the #$%^ is going on down there?" To the outside this is a dysfunctional program that seems unwilling to look to the future when the past offers so many more memories. I don't know of many Big East fans concerned that in year six, a 60 year first time head coach is going to pull a complete 180 and march through college basketball. If any other Big East team other than DePaul had gone 0-20 and did nothing more than hire one new assistant coach, we'd be collectively asking questions if that school's administration was even committed to major college basketball anymore. Instead, the slogan for 2022-23 is "Remain calm. All is well." Yeah but every program is going thru this in terms of transfers so who cares and the ones that aren't, they aren't graduating players so who cares about his other point.
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cas92
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Post by cas92 on May 17, 2022 21:32:52 GMT -5
You shouldn’t care he’s a nobody. That nobody is a Georgetown Law grad and a Northwestern MBA who runs a marketing consulting firm in New York. He may not be the kind of person will jump on Twitter feeds after a win over a really bad MEAC team and exclaim "We're back!" but he speaks for a segment of fans out there, the small-c casual fans that follow college basketball, that look from a distance at Georgetown, and ask, "what the #$%^ is going on down there?" To the outside this is a dysfunctional program that seems unwilling to look to the future when the past offers so many more memories. I don't know of many Big East fans concerned that in year six, a 60 year first time head coach is going to pull a complete 180 and march through college basketball. If any other Big East team other than DePaul had gone 0-20 and did nothing more than hire one new assistant coach, we'd be collectively asking questions if that school's administration was even committed to major college basketball anymore. Instead, the slogan for 2022-23 is "Remain calm. All is well." Loathe pulling the alumnus/a card, but it's pointedly annoying when obvious non-alumni/student(s) insert him/herself into the conversation and utter unsupported (and embarrassingly uninformed) banalities ("he's a nobody"). Would have no reservations/qualms shedding this segment of the "fan" population.
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DFW HOYA
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Post by DFW HOYA on May 17, 2022 21:40:22 GMT -5
Yeah but every program is going thru this in terms of transfers so who cares and the ones that aren't, they aren't graduating players so who cares about his other point. But not every program is, and the perception (by his post, anyway) is that Georgetown does not have it under control. Transfers by Big East school this season are below. Villanova: 1 Creighton: 1 Marquette: 1 Butler: 2 DePaul: 2 St. John's: 2 Providence: 3 Xavier: 3 Seton Hall: 4 Connecticut: 5 Georgetown: 7
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Bigs"R"Us
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on May 17, 2022 21:52:16 GMT -5
It’s like Groundhog Day, you wake up every day to a reality that a coach who went 0-20 is still in charge. Add to this nightmare the long list of transfers.
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dense
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Post by dense on May 18, 2022 0:54:53 GMT -5
Yeah but every program is going thru this in terms of transfers so who cares and the ones that aren't, they aren't graduating players so who cares about his other point. But not every program is, and the perception (by his post, anyway) is that Georgetown does not have it under control. Transfers by Big East school this season are below. Villanova: 1 Creighton: 1 Marquette: 1 Butler: 2 DePaul: 2 St. John's: 2 Providence: 3 Xavier: 3 Seton Hall: 4 Connecticut: 5 Georgetown: 7 We went 0-20. There is gonna be transfers. Uconn went to the tourney and they lost 5 players and every team in the BE lost someone and it will be like that every year from now on.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2022 2:56:24 GMT -5
I guarantee if Georgetown has a good season next year none of you guys will care one bit these kids are transfers.
Kentucky and Duke fans don't seem to find it difficult to support their kids and they basically have a new team every year...
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dense
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Post by dense on May 18, 2022 4:31:26 GMT -5
I guarantee if Georgetown has a good season next year none of you guys will care one bit these kids are transfers. Kentucky and Duke fans don't seem to find it difficult to support their kids and they basically have a new team every year... This!!! Thats why the post irked me because if we were winning and going deep in the tournament most of the players wouldn't be graduating and only staying 1 or 2 years. That's just the nature of thingswhat he is longing for doesn't exist anymore. You think Jay Wright didn't leave because of this.
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Post by practice on May 18, 2022 6:07:26 GMT -5
Multiple transfers every year is going to be a thing. However, when you go 0-20, typically something more drastic happens -- like firing your coaching staff. Well, as discussed Georgetown is incompetent when it comes to firing/hiring head basketball coaches ... but the effect was the same, i.e. massive transfers out and in. All that being said, I found the 247Sports Transfer Portal Ranking ... which seems to combined the number of transfers in w/their composite rankings .. and Georgetown ranks 4th in the country!!! out of our six commits, we have one 4 star and 4 three stars ... 247sports.com/Season/2022-Basketball/TransferTeamRankings/I'd say that 6 commits is a big number for Power 6 schools without a new coach -- but is the average number for Power 6 schools what went 0 for conference play. In the top 50: Schools with 6 incoming transfers -- LSU, Georgia, Texas A&M, UAB, and G-Town Schools with 5 incoming transfers -- Arkansas, Providence, UMass, SMU, Missouri Schools with 4 incoming transfers -- Texas Tech, Florida, Iowa State, Arizona State, Butler, WVU, Wake Forest, NC State, UNLV, Missouri State, Bryant (?) Point is ... too much roster turnover ... but what do we expect after last season? Personally I expected Ewing to be fired and then have roughly 100% roster turnover ... and, even if the team improves this season, having 5 to 8 new guys -- freshmen and transfers -- is the new world we live in. Finally ... G-Town's 2 man recruiting class ranks #49 on 247Sports list -- 247sports.com/Season/2022-Basketball/CompositeTeamRankings/
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AltoSaxa
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Post by AltoSaxa on May 18, 2022 6:16:21 GMT -5
I guarantee if Georgetown has a good season next year none of you guys will care one bit these kids are transfers. Kentucky and Duke fans don't seem to find it difficult to support their kids and they basically have a new team every year... This is just plain sillinesses. Look at the reasons for roster turnover at Duke/Kentucky compared to Georgetown. The former are programmatic change due to the recruitment of elite players moving on to the NBA. The latter, desperation due to a highly incompetent program lead who could not find a HC promotion in the NBA so he backed into a consolation prize.
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Bigs"R"Us
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on May 18, 2022 6:23:19 GMT -5
I guarantee if Georgetown has a good season next year none of you guys will care one bit these kids are transfers. Kentucky and Duke fans don't seem to find it difficult to support their kids and they basically have a new team every year... I would say the difference is that Kentucky and Duke see players leave for the NBA or kids who didn’t get minutes transfer. We are losing some of our starters to transfer. Also, our recruiting is not at their level, so the transfers are not easily upgraded. Hoping Nickelberry can work his magic because recruits aren’t buying what Pat’s selling. Agree that winning goes a long way to tolerate the ugly realities of college hoops.
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hoyazeke
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Post by hoyazeke on May 18, 2022 6:37:50 GMT -5
I guarantee if Georgetown has a good season next year none of you guys will care one bit these kids are transfers. Kentucky and Duke fans don't seem to find it difficult to support their kids and they basically have a new team every year... I would say the difference is that Kentucky and Duke see players leave for the NBA or kids who didn’t get minutes transfer. We are losing some of our starters to transfer. Also, our recruiting is not at their level, so the transfers are not easily upgraded. Hoping Nickelberry can work his magic because recruits aren’t buying what Pat’s selling. Agree that winning goes a long way to tolerate the ugly realities of college hoops. I can think of at least 3 posters that would still be upset even if we won the BE and NC...🤷🏾♂️
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Post by seaweed on May 18, 2022 7:14:24 GMT -5
It’s like Groundhog Day, you wake up every day to a reality that a coach who went 0-20 is still in charge. Add to this nightmare the long list of transfers. Get a life
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iowa80
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Post by iowa80 on May 18, 2022 8:56:25 GMT -5
That nobody is a Georgetown Law grad and a Northwestern MBA who runs a marketing consulting firm in New York. He may not be the kind of person will jump on Twitter feeds after a win over a really bad MEAC team and exclaim "We're back!" but he speaks for a segment of fans out there, the small-c casual fans that follow college basketball, that look from a distance at Georgetown, and ask, "what the #$%^ is going on down there?" To the outside this is a dysfunctional program that seems unwilling to look to the future when the past offers so many more memories. I don't know of many Big East fans concerned that in year six, a 60 year first time head coach is going to pull a complete 180 and march through college basketball. If any other Big East team other than DePaul had gone 0-20 and did nothing more than hire one new assistant coach, we'd be collectively asking questions if that school's administration was even committed to major college basketball anymore. Instead, the slogan for 2022-23 is "Remain calm. All is well." Loathe pulling the alumnus/a card, but it's pointedly annoying when obvious non-alumni/student(s) insert him/herself into the conversation and utter unsupported (and embarrassingly uninformed) banalities ("he's a nobody"). Would have no reservations/qualms shedding this segment of the "fan" population. The bottom line, “nobody” reference aside, is there is no reason to pull a Twitter quote from the guy other than to pile on the program (again). We have ample examples of dissatisfaction with the program right before us here.
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kghoya
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Post by kghoya on May 18, 2022 9:28:27 GMT -5
It’s like Groundhog Day, you wake up every day to a reality that a coach who went 0-20 is still in charge. Add to this nightmare the long list of transfers. Get a life C'mon fellas. We really need to be nicer to each other. We are among the few remaining people on the planet that still care about Georgetown basketball and the circle gets smaller every week. If we had lives, we wouldn't spend any time on this website.
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