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Post by SSHoya on Jun 24, 2023 10:22:08 GMT -5
Watch to see if any of the security services side with Prigozhin. If not, he's overplayed his hand and will lose. Just another thuggish narcissist.
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Post by SSHoya on Jun 24, 2023 12:12:00 GMT -5
Only 5 percent of Republicans support Russia over Ukraine, but the MAGA wing of the GOP has continually sided with Putin and against Ukraine. Current and former elected officials, candidates for office, and media figures who are popular with the MAGA base have a history of pro-Russia comments. Now, they have decided that they should disparage Ukraine and Volodymyr Zelenskyy despite Russia’s invasion. Some of them have walked back their comments once they saw Putin’s war machine target innocent people, but many still see Russia as an ally. accountability.gop/ukraine-quotes/
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Post by SSHoya on Jun 24, 2023 12:50:30 GMT -5
Prigozhin standing down. Loser. Belarus negotiated the stand down. Wagner chief says mercenaries are turning back after advance toward Moscow The agreement for Prigozhin’s forces to turn around was brokered by Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko, who spoke with Putin before negotiating with Prigozhin, according to Belarusian state-owned news agency Belta. With security guarantees for Wagner Group on the table, Prigozhin agreed to stop his forces’ progress toward Moscow. www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/06/24/russia-ukraine-war-news-wagner-prigozhin/
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Post by SSHoya on Jun 24, 2023 15:03:37 GMT -5
Dmitry Peskov, Putin's spokesman on Russian state media stated that criminal case against Prigozhin will be dropped in exchange for him going into exile in Belarus.
I would advise him to stay away from windows on high floors.
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Post by SSHoya on Jun 24, 2023 15:40:25 GMT -5
Putin is learning a lesson many tyrants have before him Russian President Vladimir Putin is learning what so many tyrants have learned before him: When you unleash the dogs of war, they can come back to bite you. When the Russian strongman sent his troops marching to take Kyiv, he never imagined that 16 months later mutinous Wagner mercenary group troops would march on Moscow. But then Napoleon never imagined that invading Russia would lead to his exile and the restoration of monarchy in France. Hitler never imagined that invading Poland would lead to his suicide and the partition of Germany. Iraq’s Saddam Hussein never imagined that invading Kuwait would lead, eventually, to the overthrow of his regime and his death. The Wagner crisis has nonetheless revealed the hidden instability of Putin’s regime and shaken his aura of power. It could still create opportunities for a Ukrainian counteroffensive that, so far, has been only inching along. If the Russians are distracted with infighting, Ukraine may have the opportunity to score more battlefield successes — and that in turn could further undermine Putin’s hold on power. www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/06/24/putin-wagner-rebellion-ukraine-war/
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Post by hoyajinx on Jun 25, 2023 11:37:04 GMT -5
I’d honestly be surprised if Prigozhin lasts a month. Putin has been utterly humiliated and is likely seething. There is no world where Prigozhin goes unpunished. Putin has to show others that threatening his grasp on power has repercussions, or he could fear that others may try to take advantage of his newly perceived weakness.
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Post by SSHoya on Jun 26, 2023 6:52:36 GMT -5
Where's Pootie?? Has he screwed the pooch? RIGA, Latvia — Russia’s embattled military leadership tried to demonstrate control on Monday after the bruising, chaotic mutiny by Yevgeniy Prigozhin and his Wagner mercenary group, airing a video of Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu visiting a command post, while President Vladimir Putin, Prigozhin and other key figures in the crisis remained out of sight. Putin was last seen during his emergency address to the nation on Saturday during the crisis, but there was speculation he may have left Moscow for one of his residences northwest of the capital, after two planes from Russia’s special fleet used by Putin departed the city that day. www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/06/26/putin-prigozhin-russia-rebellion-wagner/
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Post by hoyarooter on Jun 26, 2023 17:51:23 GMT -5
So do we now have a two part question? Which window will Prigozhin inadvertently fall from? Or which poison will he inadvertently ingest?
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Post by SSHoya on Jul 7, 2023 6:20:45 GMT -5
Will the Putin-wing of the MAGA GOP cult sue Biden in a vain attempt to cease this executive action? And what of the left wing of the Dems? President Biden has approved the provision of U.S. cluster munitions for Ukraine, with drawdown of the weapons from Defense Department stocks due to be announced Friday. The move, which will bypass U.S. law prohibiting the production, use or transfer of cluster munitions with a failure rate of more than 1 percent, comes amid concerns about Kyiv’s lagging counteroffensive against entrenched Russian troops and dwindling Western stocks of conventional artillery. It follows months of internal administration debate over whether to supply the controversial munitions, which are banned by most countries in the world. Cluster weapons explode in the air over a target, releasing dozens to hundreds of smaller submunitions across a wide area. More than 120 countries have joined a convention banning their use as inhumane and indiscriminate, in large part because of high failure rates that litter the landscape with unexploded submunitions that endanger both friendly troops and civilians, often for decades after the end of a conflict. The United States, Ukraine and Russia — which is alleged to have used them extensively in Ukraine — are not parties to the convention. Eight of NATO’s 31 members, including the United States, have not ratified the convention. www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/07/06/biden-cluster-bombs-ukraine/
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