dchoya72
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Post by dchoya72 on Dec 27, 2021 6:41:27 GMT -5
The kid can ball…that’s the fascination. Can score from all three levels and is a plus athlete. The more (talent), the merrier… esp. with Riley and Clark out… I got that. What is the severity of Kobe Clark's injury. What is his injury? It has kept him from playing for two seasons so far!
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Post by MCIGuy on Dec 27, 2021 8:07:34 GMT -5
You been watching college basketball this year? Low major been beating high majors or keeping games close all year. Low majors have the advantage because teams with this new transfer portal are not together as long as the 90-10s. 0-7 Texas Southern went and beat Florida at Florida there are numerous other examples But low majors now have a disadvantage because once their undervalued recruits perform extremely well at the mid-major level, the Big Boys can now come calling to swipe away such (non-graduate) players in an instant because the players don't have to sit out a year anymore. That is how this new setup works now or am I mistaken?
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Post by MCIGuy on Dec 27, 2021 8:09:38 GMT -5
The kid can ball…that’s the fascination. Can score from all three levels and is a plus athlete. The more (talent), the merrier… esp. with Riley and Clark out… Isn't this somewhat disingenuous considering how folks here always wanting coaches to shorten the rotation?
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Post by prhoya on Dec 27, 2021 8:17:25 GMT -5
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Post by dense on Dec 27, 2021 8:20:36 GMT -5
You been watching college basketball this year? Low major been beating high majors or keeping games close all year. Low majors have the advantage because teams with this new transfer portal are not together as long as the 90-10s. 0-7 Texas Southern went and beat Florida at Florida there are numerous other examples But low majors now have a disadvantage because once their undervalued recruits perform extremely well at the mid-major level, the Big Boys can now come calling to swipe away such (non-graduate) players in an instant because the players don't have to sit out a year anymore. That is how this new setup works now or am I mistaken? That's how it will work. I'm saying it only in terms of where we are right now and Wayne Bristol's talent level isn't that far below. This isn't a declaration on this rule forever.
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Post by hoya9797 on Dec 27, 2021 8:21:31 GMT -5
You been watching college basketball this year? Low major been beating high majors or keeping games close all year. Low majors have the advantage because teams with this new transfer portal are not together as long as the 90-10s. 0-7 Texas Southern went and beat Florida at Florida there are numerous other examples The MEAC isn’t remotely close to the level of the Ivy League let alone a major conference.
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Post by dense on Dec 27, 2021 8:24:22 GMT -5
You been watching college basketball this year? Low major been beating high majors or keeping games close all year. Low majors have the advantage because teams with this new transfer portal are not together as long as the 90-10s. 0-7 Texas Southern went and beat Florida at Florida there are numerous other examples The MEAC isn’t remotely close to the level of the Ivy League let alone a major conference. In history yes, but this year all bets are off in terms of this. I dont know what season you've been watching. A SWAC team(with a bunch of transfers)that didn't win a game went into a SEC team building and beat them and it wasn't even ever close. Also yes I know a bunch of teams left the conference. Also Uconn starting PG now was the MEAC freshman of the year in the same system.
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Post by hoya9797 on Dec 27, 2021 8:33:54 GMT -5
The MEAC isn’t remotely close to the level of the Ivy League let alone a major conference. In history yes, but this year all bets are off in terms of this. I dont know what season you've been watching. A SWAC team(with a bunch of transfers)that didn't win a game went into a SEC team building and beat them and it wasn't even ever close. This year, too. The MEAC teams are awful. They have two wins over teams ranked above 200 and a handful of “close” (less than 20 points) losses to major teams (Georgetown, Wichita St, UVA, Iowa, UConn). While I’m sure there are good individual players on these teams, the teams themselves are not competitive at all.
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Post by dense on Dec 27, 2021 8:35:33 GMT -5
In history yes, but this year all bets are off in terms of this. I dont know what season you've been watching. A SWAC team(with a bunch of transfers)that didn't win a game went into a SEC team building and beat them and it wasn't even ever close. This year, too. The MEAC teams are awful. They have two wins over teams ranked above 200 and a handful of “close” (less than 20 points) losses to major teams (Georgetown, Wichita St, UVA, Iowa, UConn). While I’m sure there are good individual players on these teams, the teams themselves are not competitive at all. Yes your last point was what I was stating in this thread because someone was saying because he was a MEAC player he wasn't worth it. I wasn't stating your first point. I'm saying players in that conference can play at a higher level. I don't know how(actually I do on this board) was put in the position that I was stating the MEAC was the bastion of Div 1 basketball.
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Post by hoya9797 on Dec 27, 2021 9:32:13 GMT -5
This year, too. The MEAC teams are awful. They have two wins over teams ranked above 200 and a handful of “close” (less than 20 points) losses to major teams (Georgetown, Wichita St, UVA, Iowa, UConn). While I’m sure there are good individual players on these teams, the teams themselves are not competitive at all. Yes your last point was what I was stating in this thread because someone was saying because he was a MEAC player he wasn't worth it. I wasn't stating your first point. I'm saying players in that conference can play at a higher level. I don't know how(actually I do on this board) was put in the position that I was stating the MEAC was the bastion of Div 1 basketball. Maybe you meant to phrase this differently but you said: Adding someone who was the freshman of the year of a conference that as we see the landscape of college basketball that level isn't that much below majors now. Which sounds like you are saying the MEAC is not much below the majors now.
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Post by MCIGuy on Dec 27, 2021 9:50:54 GMT -5
Making Trump comparisons is pretty unnecessarily and wasteful. I guess you were trying to make a point but its a shame you weren't able to pull something better out of your hat. Anyway my remark of "folks here" does not by definition make claim that everyone who participates on this site feels the same way about shortening the rotation. But I've been around long enough and have read enough posts to realize that when it comes to this particular issue the most persistent and loudest voices tend to heavily favor limiting the rotation to seven or eight guys, especially when heading into Big East season.
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Post by calhoya on Dec 27, 2021 9:56:10 GMT -5
With respect to the topic of this kid, Bristol, is there something substantive to suggest that he is coming to the Hilltop or is this still in the rumor stage? Has there been any reporting on his leanings since entering the transfer portal?
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Post by EtomicB on Dec 27, 2021 10:03:59 GMT -5
Making Trump comparisons is pretty unnecessarily and wasteful. I guess you were trying to make a point but its a shame you weren't able to pull something better out of your hat. Anyway my remark of "folks here" does not by definition make claim that everyone who participates on this site feels the same way about shortening the rotation. But I've been around long enough and have read enough posts to realize that when it comes to this particular issue the most persistent and loudest voices tend to heavily favor limiting the rotation to seven or eight guys, especially when heading into Big East season. You can advocate for a shorter rotation but still want solid players to be at the end of the bench in case of poor play, injury or transfer...
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Post by dense on Dec 27, 2021 10:16:33 GMT -5
Yes your last point was what I was stating in this thread because someone was saying because he was a MEAC player he wasn't worth it. I wasn't stating your first point. I'm saying players in that conference can play at a higher level. I don't know how(actually I do on this board) was put in the position that I was stating the MEAC was the bastion of Div 1 basketball. Maybe you meant to phrase this differently but you said: Adding someone who was the freshman of the year of a conference that as we see the landscape of college basketball that level isn't that much below majors now. Which sounds like you are saying the MEAC is not much below the majors now. You aren't combining it with what was said in the thread before. I'm saying players in these conferences are different this year than any normal year which is true. Look at Howard. They have like 2 Columbia transfers. Everything got scrambled so individuals on these teams can play which is causing closer games that has been shown to be true in alot of conferences. I wasn't specifically saying the MEAC I meant lower conference teams in general. Also yes the games have been closer. You can look at final scores but look at the actual game flow and these games have been closer.
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Post by EtomicB on Dec 27, 2021 10:20:03 GMT -5
Maybe you meant to phrase this differently but you said: Which sounds like you are saying the MEAC is not much below the majors now. You aren't combining it with what was said in the thread before. I'm saying players in these conferences are different this year than any normal year which is true. Look at Howard. They have like 2 Columbia transfers. Everything got scrambled so individuals on these teams can play which is causing closer games that has been shown to be true in alot of conferences. I wasn't specifically saying the MEAC I meant lower conference teams in general. I don't understand what the players currently in the MEAC this year have to do with Bristol's ability?
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Post by prhoya on Dec 27, 2021 10:30:45 GMT -5
Making Trump comparisons is pretty unnecessarily and wasteful. I guess you were trying to make a point but its a shame you weren't able to pull something better out of your hat. Anyway my remark of "folks here" does not by definition make claim that everyone who participates on this site feels the same way about shortening the rotation. But I've been around long enough and have read enough posts to realize that when it comes to this particular issue the most persistent and loudest voices tend to heavily favor limiting the rotation to seven or eight guys, especially when heading into Big East season. Oh, I think you got my Trumpian point. Disagree with your take. I think it’s pretty evenly divided between short rotation and use enough players so that the players are fresh, while gaining game time experience. And now back to Bristol. Given our current roster situation, I would take him.
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Post by bigskyhoya on Dec 27, 2021 10:35:05 GMT -5
You aren't combining it with what was said in the thread before. I'm saying players in these conferences are different this year than any normal year which is true. Look at Howard. They have like 2 Columbia transfers. Everything got scrambled so individuals on these teams can play which is causing closer games that has been shown to be true in alot of conferences. I wasn't specifically saying the MEAC I meant lower conference teams in general. I don't understand what the players currently in the MEAC this year have to do with Bristol's ability? I was wondering that myself. Seems like a classic rabbit hole.
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Post by prhoya on Dec 27, 2021 10:40:48 GMT -5
The more (talent), the merrier… esp. with Riley and Clark out… I got that. What is the severity of Kobe Clark's injury. What is his injury? It has kept him from playing for two seasons so far! No idea. Hopefully he’s available once we come back from the COVID break.
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Post by SSHoya on Dec 27, 2021 12:18:39 GMT -5
I got that. What is the severity of Kobe Clark's injury. What is his injury? It has kept him from playing for two seasons so far! No idea. Hopefully he’s available once we come back from the COVID break. Clark status and injury: December 16, 2021 Coach Patrick Ewing said that Clark is still dealing with a hamstring injury, Bobby Bancroft of SB Nation reports. Anyone who has had a hamstring injury knows how dicey it is to return from it.
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Post by dchoya72 on Dec 27, 2021 13:07:31 GMT -5
Thanks! I believe he had a similar injury last year....i don't know any details, and hope he recovers well. It seems he's missed two half-seasons and I now wonder what that means for his eligibility. I think of him as a very skilled player and we have yet to see that in play because of his injuries.
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