hoyaboya
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Post by hoyaboya on Oct 29, 2021 8:52:27 GMT -5
This is correct. Does anybody truly believe Ewing has a clue about how to broker these kinds of things effectively? Look at what Kansas is doing for its basketball program: "Martin on Thursday morning signed a marketing deal with Lawrence-based Crown Toyota, and walked off the lot with a new car — a 2021 Toyota Camry. Other terms of the deal were not released, such as whether Martin receives other compensation or what type of marketing duties he might have to do for the dealership. “This is amazing,” Martin said while hopping in the car for the first time. “I’m just super-grateful for the opportunity. Being in college for the amount of time that I (have), I never would’ve thought I would see the day where I’d be able to make some money off this opportunity and get a vehicle, which is unreal to me.” The deal, which technically was a lease for Martin, was brokered by 6th Man Strategies. The company was founded by brothers Matt and Ryan Baty, both former KU baseball players . The company recently announced that it had reached agreements to handle NIL deals for all 18 Kansas men’s basketball players. Before Martin was handed the keys to his new ride, Matt Baty said simply, “This is the new age of college athletics.” Indeed, prior to the NIL rule changes, a local business giving a new car to a basketball player likely would have been the epitome of an NCAA rules violation. Now, it may be a requirement to keep up with the Jones in the world of college athletics. Baty said there will be more car deals in the future. But perhaps more interestingly, the company is looking to capitalize off of the large donor base that supports KU basketball. Traditionally, those donors have given money to Kansas Athletics, which uses the dollars for everything from scholarships to facility upgrades. But 6th Man Strategies is now wanting to get KU fans to send the company money on a monthly basis, which the company then will use to fund NIL opportunities for Kansas basketball players. 6th Man Strategies is currently doing fundraising and promotions for what it calls its 100 Club, which will be made up of people who will pledge $1,000 a month to support NIL opportunities for Kansas basketball. www2.kusports.com/news/2021/oct/28/ku-guard-remy-martin-receives-new-car-part-nil-dea/This one is not on Ewing. Given the way GU works, the decision to have something like 6th Man Strategies will go all the way to the president. And, given the way GU works, I really doubt he’d support it. Somewhat fair, although a good college basketball coach in 2021 would push heavily on the administration to develop something like 6th Man Strategies as a way to stay competitive. NIL is one of many reasons I think Ewing will step aside after this season. To be fair to him, NIL didn't exist when JT2 gave him the job and it's not part of what Ewing signed up for. Given Georgetown's likely slow roll for how to deal with NIL effectively, it's part of why I think Ewing says "screw it" after the season. |
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Post by gojeffgoroyunder7 on Oct 29, 2021 9:10:11 GMT -5
We ALL hope you "step aside" as a "fan" first. What a sad life you have -- you wake up every day, log on to hoyatalk, and say "hmmm, how can I trash Ewing or Dante Harris in a slightly different way than I have over the past 250 days?" And even if you think you make valid points, which you don't, there is simply no need to make them in EVERY thread EVERY day. Do you think Dante Harris enjoys reading your insulting posts? Do you think it helps him? Do you think it helps the team? Maybe the best question is, do you think?
Dante, none of us feel the way this person does about you. We appreciate your hard work and dedication to our program, and we hope that you lead us to yet another big east championship this year.
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DallasHoya
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Post by DallasHoya on Oct 29, 2021 9:11:15 GMT -5
My opinion only: I don't see how the University's view of the role of athletics and the status of student-athletes can co-exist with where NIL is going and the concept of one and two year college players that don't even have the pretense of seeking a degree. Either the University will need to change its view - which is highly unlikely given its historical antipathy to materially changing anything - or in 3-5 years Georgetown basketball will not exist in any semblance of the way we now know it, and certainly nothing like it was in the past.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Oct 29, 2021 13:11:03 GMT -5
My opinion only: I don't see how the University's view of the role of athletics and the status of student-athletes can co-exist with where NIL is going and the concept of one and two year college players that don't even have the pretense of seeking a degree. Either the University will need to change its view - which is highly unlikely given its historical antipathy to materially changing anything - or in 3-5 years Georgetown basketball will not exist in any semblance of the way we now know it, and certainly nothing like it was in the past. Agree. GU will find it harder and harder to embrace the direction college basketball has taken. The school puts student first and athlete second. Kids today go to college because that’s their ticket to basketball, not for an education. The deflated basketball doesn’t resonate with today’s kids. |
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hoya9797
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Post by hoya9797 on Oct 29, 2021 13:24:08 GMT -5
My opinion only: I don't see how the University's view of the role of athletics and the status of student-athletes can co-exist with where NIL is going and the concept of one and two year college players that don't even have the pretense of seeking a degree. Either the University will need to change its view - which is highly unlikely given its historical antipathy to materially changing anything - or in 3-5 years Georgetown basketball will not exist in any semblance of the way we now know it, and certainly nothing like it was in the past. Agree. GU will find it harder and harder to embrace the direction college basketball has taken. The school puts student first and athlete second. Kids today go to college because that’s their ticket to basketball, not for an education. The deflated basketball doesn’t resonate with today’s kids. Do you think this was all true when GU accepted Vic Page? |
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Post by jwp91 on Oct 29, 2021 13:52:16 GMT -5
My opinion only: I don't see how the University's view of the role of athletics and the status of student-athletes can co-exist with where NIL is going and the concept of one and two year college players that don't even have the pretense of seeking a degree. Either the University will need to change its view - which is highly unlikely given its historical antipathy to materially changing anything - or in 3-5 years Georgetown basketball will not exist in any semblance of the way we now know it, and certainly nothing like it was in the past. Well, then let’s enjoy the last of Hoya basketball. |
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Post by prhoya on Oct 29, 2021 16:12:30 GMT -5
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Post by MrDouglass on Oct 29, 2021 17:25:04 GMT -5
Ewing is doing the best he can with what he has, and he has enough on his plate without having to personally negotiate NIL deals. If you want to blame someone, the AD and the President should do a better job of supporting Ewing. How? Starting GU’s version of 6th Man Strategies would be a great start. Then the school could turn to the alumni to ask us to put our money where our mouth is. Frankly I’ve been one of the biggest complainers about the lack of NIL action, so if a school rep were to call me to ask for a contribution to our version of 6th Man Strategies, I would pay up. I’m sure many of you would too. It’s irrelevant that 6th Man Strategies would have violated NCAA rules in the past. If there is a proper way to do it now, then we need to do it! Either we change with the times, or we stop pretending the Hoyas are still relevant.
Hey DeGioia, start 6th Man Strategies NOW! (Please sir.)
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Post by DFW HOYA on Oct 29, 2021 17:37:11 GMT -5
Ewing is doing the best he can with what he has, and he has enough on his plate without having to personally negotiate NIL deals. If you want to blame someone, the AD and the President should do a better job of supporting Ewing. How? Starting GU’s version of 6th Man Strategies would be a great start. Then the school could turn to the alumni to ask us to put our money where our mouth is. Frankly I’ve been one of the biggest complainers about the lack of NIL action, so if a school rep were to call me to ask for a contribution to our version of 6th Man Strategies, I would pay up. I’m sure many of you would too. It’s irrelevant that 6th Man Strategies would have violated NCAA rules in the past. If there is a proper way to do it now, then we need to do it! Either we change with the times, or we stop pretending the Hoyas are still relevant. Hey DeGioia, start 6th Man Strategies NOW! (Please sir.) This is understandably low on the institutional priority list, if for no other reason that NIL at Georgetown is not going to be a pass-through for 13 men. The NIL program must be constructed for 800 students, not 13, and that's why it takes time. |
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Post by EtomicB on Oct 29, 2021 18:17:22 GMT -5
My opinion only: I don't see how the University's view of the role of athletics and the status of student-athletes can co-exist with where NIL is going and the concept of one and two year college players that don't even have the pretense of seeking a degree. Either the University will need to change its view - which is highly unlikely given its historical antipathy to materially changing anything - or in 3-5 years Georgetown basketball will not exist in any semblance of the way we now know it, and certainly nothing like it was in the past.Folks said the same thing when the COA stipend was being talked about as a possibility for athletes when it became the norm Gtown ponied up to keep up... Gtown is already in the business of seeking donations to help fund the many projects it has, asking some of these same folks to invest in student-athletes if there's a fit doesn't seem like much of a change in my view... I know this will come across as snarky but considering how the basketball program runs now I hope this statement is true... |
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Post by EtomicB on Oct 29, 2021 18:23:51 GMT -5
Ewing is doing the best he can with what he has, and he has enough on his plate without having to personally negotiate NIL deals. If you want to blame someone, the AD and the President should do a better job of supporting Ewing. How? Starting GU’s version of 6th Man Strategies would be a great start. Then the school could turn to the alumni to ask us to put our money where our mouth is. Frankly I’ve been one of the biggest complainers about the lack of NIL action, so if a school rep were to call me to ask for a contribution to our version of 6th Man Strategies, I would pay up. I’m sure many of you would too. It’s irrelevant that 6th Man Strategies would have violated NCAA rules in the past. If there is a proper way to do it now, then we need to do it! Either we change with the times, or we stop pretending the Hoyas are still relevant. Hey DeGioia, start 6th Man Strategies NOW! (Please sir.) This is understandably low on the institutional priority list, if for no other reason that NIL at Georgetown is not going to be a pass-through for 13 men. The NIL program must be constructed for 800 students, not 13, and that's why it takes time. I don't get what the "institution" has to do with this is an athletic department project what else does Lee Reed have to do besides figuring out ways to help GTowns sports thrive? |
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Post by MrDouglass on Oct 29, 2021 19:05:16 GMT -5
I’ve checked into this a bit further, and it appears I may have acted rashly in pointing to the AD and the Pres. The NIL rules may not permit GU employees to creat NIL opportunities. It’s probably up to boosters. In other words, us! Are there any alumni-led efforts (like 6th Man Strategies) underway?
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Post by Lethal_Interjection on Nov 1, 2021 16:11:40 GMT -5
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seaweed
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Post by seaweed on Nov 1, 2021 16:32:15 GMT -5
Well, that didn't take long. |
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hoyaduck
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Post by hoyaduck on Nov 1, 2021 16:35:17 GMT -5
Whereas Mark Few gets a one game suspension for a DUI. |
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Post by boxout05 on Nov 1, 2021 18:06:37 GMT -5
Well, that didn't take long. Didn’t really get busted under the new rules. Apparently he sold some merch in June before the state of IL passed its NIL laws in July. |
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prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Nov 3, 2021 21:50:47 GMT -5
I keep saying wow!
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Post by justsaying on Mar 25, 2022 16:57:27 GMT -5
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prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Apr 19, 2022 9:45:26 GMT -5
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hoyafan23
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Post by hoyafan23 on Apr 20, 2022 13:52:59 GMT -5
Might need to quit my finance job...
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