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Post by tupac on Nov 25, 2020 18:27:02 GMT -5
Don’t like Tim at all !!! Wanna see more of Wilson and Clark
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Post by HometownHoya on Nov 25, 2020 18:27:23 GMT -5
Not sure if addressed earlier in this thread, but where was Bile? Reports are that he was injured or hasn't qualified for eligibility. Either way he was not dressed. Which do you believe?
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Post by blazers32 on Nov 25, 2020 18:27:44 GMT -5
Tough win at the end. Carey is a plus. J Harris was decent. Like Clark, Big Tim and D Harris. Go Hoyas! Ewing had to take J Harris out the game at the end and put in D Harris. Hell that was against UMBC. Smh. against better completion don't think a few guys are ready.
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Post by dense on Nov 25, 2020 18:32:16 GMT -5
For me Good, Kobe Clark Malcolm Wilson Donald Carey
OK Qudus Wahab Blair Collin Holloway BAD Everyone else especially Tim and Morko. Tim has no feel for the game still. He needs to give up on rebounding when he is boxed out. he goes over the back everytime. Morko needs to be able to finish drives.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Nov 25, 2020 18:35:14 GMT -5
Because it's fresh on my mind... we are up 9 with 1:15 to go and our senior leaders Blair and Pickett each jack up hurried shots with 12 and 19 left on the shot clock to give UMBC a chance to come back? We're on Year 4 of being unable to understand time and score situations at the end of games. I expect better by now.
Overall, an ugly game that doesn't bode well for the rest of this season. As someone put it earlier in the thread, it's a good thing UMBC is a small team that can't shoot. We gave up a lot of open looks and didn't pay for them. That won't happen as the schedule gets tougher. I know we'll have better FT shooting days, but 20 TOs can't be blamed entirely on rust or new guys needing time to gel; a lot of poor decision making and carelessness continue to persist.
Couple player observations. First, the bad. For those looking for the big senior leap from Pickett and bought into the Twitter hype, he's the same guy. We don't have better options, but we will be limited as long as he's logging 35+ minutes a night at the 4. J Harris is extremely one-dimesional; if people thought Mosely didn't do anything on the court (which I disagree with), Harris does even less. Aside from facilitating a couple nice runouts, was mostly invisible on both ends of the floor. Timmy showed about 90% of the awkwardness that he did last year, which is fine if you're a 3rd string 5 eating token minutes. It's a bigger problem if you're the backup 5 expected to log 10-15 MPG behind a foul prone starter.
The good. Kobe Clark was by far the biggest positive takeaway from tonight. He was active on both ends, didn't mind the physicality, and played within himself. I thought Wilson gave some good minutes; obviously still needs to work on his strength and skill, but the same things I said about Clark apply to Wilson too. If Timmy continues to make dumb mistakes, I could see the minutes distribution change a bit at the backup 5 as the season progresses. I also thought D Harris gave good minutes as well and showed that the distance between him and J Harris isn't that big.
About what we expected: Blair is more or less the same as well; he did a great job tonight hitting the glass and following up his own misses, but will that be there when the competition gets tougher? I would put Q in this category as well; he imposed his will on both ends in the second half, but still can't stay away from the silly fouls and gave up a few drives to the rim when he was slow to recover. Carey provided some offense in spurts during the first half and looks comfortable shooting when set, but his efficiency dramatically declines when he's forced to put the ball on the floor and drive. Don't think that BE coaches won't see this and know how to game plan against it. I do think he has the ability to be a bit more consistent as the season progresses, however.
Less worried about Bile (a non-impact transfer in my mind) and more about Sibley. Where was he?
Didn't see any huge adjustments from the staff in Game 1 aside from going away from the press entirely. UMBC wasn't skilled enough to run a PnR game, so it remains to be seen how we handle it. Didn't like that the staff chose to eat 3 timeouts instead of focusing on getting a double digit win and avoiding the usual end game lull.
Take care of business next week and see if we can figure out a way to be competitive against WVU.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Nov 25, 2020 18:38:41 GMT -5
Finally, worst announcing job in some time. How about using a professional play by play announcer next time so we know who is in the game and who is making the play? Steve Buckhantz did the best he could but Monica McNutt was not prepared for the game. Too many stories and too little analysis. And here's a long running problem with local announcers--they lapse into DMV mode and start telling stories that almost no one outside of the region would have any idea what it refers to. Not everyone tuning into this game known or cares about Mary Fenlon (who left the program 21 years ago), or Prince George's County basketball, or that Jamorko Pickett went to Eastern HS. It's a crutch for not covering the game with a little more discipline.
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Post by dense on Nov 25, 2020 18:39:54 GMT -5
Because it's fresh on my mind... we are up 9 with 1:15 to go and our senior leaders Blair and Pickett each jack up hurried shots with 12 and 19 left on the shot clock to give UMBC a chance to come back? We're on Year 4 of being unable to understand time and score situations at the end of games. I expect better by now. Overall, an ugly game that doesn't bode well for the rest of this season. As someone put it earlier in the thread, it's a good thing UMBC is a small team that can't shoot. We gave up a lot of open looks and didn't pay for them. That won't happen as the schedule gets tougher. I know we'll have better FT shooting days, but 20 TOs can't be blamed entirely on rust or new guys needing time to gel; a lot of poor decision making and carelessness continue to persist. Couple player observations. First, the bad. For those looking for the big senior leap from Pickett and bought into the Twitter hype, he's the same guy. We don't have better options, but we will be limited as long as he's logging 35+ minutes a night at the 4. J Harris is extremely one-dimesional; if people thought Mosely didn't do anything on the court (which I disagree with), Harris does even less. Aside from facilitating a couple nice runouts, was mostly invisible on both ends of the floor. Timmy showed about 90% of the awkwardness that he did last year, which is fine if you're a 3rd string 5 eating token minutes. It's a bigger problem if you're the backup 5 expected to log 10-15 MPG behind a foul prone starter. The good. Kobe Clark was by far the biggest positive takeaway from tonight. He was active on both ends, didn't mind the physicality, and played within himself. I thought Wilson gave some good minutes; obviously still needs to work on his strength and skill, but the same things I said about Clark apply to Wilson too. If Timmy continues to make dumb mistakes, I could see the minutes distribution change a bit at the backup 5 as the season progresses. I also thought D Harris gave good minutes as well and showed that the distance between him and J Harris isn't that big. About what we expected: Blair is more or less the same as well; he did a great job tonight hitting the glass and following up his own misses, but will that be there when the competition gets tougher? I would put Q in this category as well; he imposed his will on both ends in the second half, but still can't stay away from the silly fouls and gave up a few drives to the rim when he was slow to recover. Carey provided some offense in spurts during the first half and looks comfortable shooting when set, but his efficiency dramatically declines when he's forced to put the ball on the floor and drive. Don't think that BE coaches won't see this and know how to game plan against it. I do think he has the ability to be a bit more consistent as the season progresses, however. Less worried about Bile (a non-impact transfer in my mind) and more about Sibley. Where was he? Didn't see any huge adjustments from the staff in Game 1 aside from going away from the press entirely. UMBC wasn't skilled enough to run a PnR game, so it remains to be seen how we handle it. Didn't like that the staff chose to eat 3 timeouts instead of focusing on getting a double digit win and avoiding the usual end game lull. Take care of business next week and see if we can figure out a way to be competitive against WVU. I concur with everything spoken here.
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Post by professorhoya on Nov 25, 2020 18:40:35 GMT -5
Not sure if addressed earlier in this thread, but where was Bile? Reports are that he was injured or hasn't qualified for eligibility. Either way he was not dressed. Which do you believe? Aminu
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Post by tupac on Nov 25, 2020 18:43:34 GMT -5
What’s up with Sibley
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Post by kbones17 on Nov 25, 2020 18:43:36 GMT -5
Very uneven effort, which is somewhat not surprising given all of the new faces and limited preseason. Seems like PE was just throwing everyone out there a bit to start to see what he has. It was certainly disappointing us allow them to come back by continuing to take quick shots and turn the ball over. Very sloppy overall.
The positive things I’ll take from the game is that defense was ok, and we didn’t give up much easy stuff at the rim. The Qudus/Tim/Malcom triumvirate contested almost everything close. I think Blair played a solid game overall; I hope he incorporates some more upfakes and gets to the FT line more. Jamorko forced things way too much today; I know we need him to be a leader but he still doesn’t have the skill set to take people off the dribble and initiate offense.
Loved what I saw of Kobe Clark and liked what I saw of D Harris. If D Harris can hit some threes he may get more PT than I previously thought.
Overall rebounding was good. Some things to build on, but lots of mistakes too. Very mixed bag.
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Post by strummer8526 on Nov 25, 2020 18:47:42 GMT -5
Not worried about Pickett. His shot will come and his rebounding and defense were decent. Haven’t we been expecting his shot to come for three years?
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Post by hoyainla on Nov 25, 2020 18:51:15 GMT -5
You have to be quite the optimist to come away from that game encouraged. There were a couple of bright spots. Carey is one of our better players. Kobe surely a good glue guy that has quite a nose for the ball. Blair clearly the best player. He's going to shoot a ton and I'm not sure outside of Carey and Q on the block who I would rather have shoot.
The most discouraging was Pickett and Tim. I'm not sure any of the returning guys looked much better than last year. Q's footwork was about all I could say for sure. If you aren't worried about the coaching after that game you are likely never going to think Ewing does anything wrong. We were at our best at the beginning of the 2nd half when we went on the big run by pushing the ball. WE shot 26% on 3's and 50% FT so we still desperately need shooters. If you take out Q's easy stuff we shot 33% overall against an undersized not good defensive low major. The half court offense looked the same as always which is not much at all. If we play teams with no size we can take advantage of it but that ends in the Big East. The defense was slightly improved but they got a ton of open shots. Better teams won't. No clue why Ewing had Tim in for the end of the game stretch. It was reminiscent of him play Yurt over Q in the final St. John's disaster. Just pretty discouraging all around.
Jalen Harris was bad and Dante is not ready. We won't be able to get away with starting the 3 guards against BE teams because they will just post us up. Blair and Carey have to play a lot. I think we have to roll with whoever coach feels is the better ball handler of the two. It's not like we run an offense where we have to have a traditional PG. Throw Kobe in to gobble up the misses and hope Jamorko at least gets back to what he was last season. Maybe Bile or Sibley make a difference and can start as well.
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Post by hoyainla on Nov 25, 2020 18:55:42 GMT -5
Because it's fresh on my mind... we are up 9 with 1:15 to go and our senior leaders Blair and Pickett each jack up hurried shots with 12 and 19 left on the shot clock to give UMBC a chance to come back? We're on Year 4 of being unable to understand time and score situations at the end of games. I expect better by now. Overall, an ugly game that doesn't bode well for the rest of this season. As someone put it earlier in the thread, it's a good thing UMBC is a small team that can't shoot. We gave up a lot of open looks and didn't pay for them. That won't happen as the schedule gets tougher. I know we'll have better FT shooting days, but 20 TOs can't be blamed entirely on rust or new guys needing time to gel; a lot of poor decision making and carelessness continue to persist. Couple player observations. First, the bad. For those looking for the big senior leap from Pickett and bought into the Twitter hype, he's the same guy. We don't have better options, but we will be limited as long as he's logging 35+ minutes a night at the 4. J Harris is extremely one-dimesional; if people thought Mosely didn't do anything on the court (which I disagree with), Harris does even less. Aside from facilitating a couple nice runouts, was mostly invisible on both ends of the floor. Timmy showed about 90% of the awkwardness that he did last year, which is fine if you're a 3rd string 5 eating token minutes. It's a bigger problem if you're the backup 5 expected to log 10-15 MPG behind a foul prone starter. The good. Kobe Clark was by far the biggest positive takeaway from tonight. He was active on both ends, didn't mind the physicality, and played within himself. I thought Wilson gave some good minutes; obviously still needs to work on his strength and skill, but the same things I said about Clark apply to Wilson too. If Timmy continues to make dumb mistakes, I could see the minutes distribution change a bit at the backup 5 as the season progresses. I also thought D Harris gave good minutes as well and showed that the distance between him and J Harris isn't that big. About what we expected: Blair is more or less the same as well; he did a great job tonight hitting the glass and following up his own misses, but will that be there when the competition gets tougher? I would put Q in this category as well; he imposed his will on both ends in the second half, but still can't stay away from the silly fouls and gave up a few drives to the rim when he was slow to recover. Carey provided some offense in spurts during the first half and looks comfortable shooting when set, but his efficiency dramatically declines when he's forced to put the ball on the floor and drive. Don't think that BE coaches won't see this and know how to game plan against it. I do think he has the ability to be a bit more consistent as the season progresses, however. Less worried about Bile (a non-impact transfer in my mind) and more about Sibley. Where was he? Didn't see any huge adjustments from the staff in Game 1 aside from going away from the press entirely. UMBC wasn't skilled enough to run a PnR game, so it remains to be seen how we handle it. Didn't like that the staff chose to eat 3 timeouts instead of focusing on getting a double digit win and avoiding the usual end game lull. Take care of business next week and see if we can figure out a way to be competitive against WVU. I consider you a knowledgeable poster and the fact you posted that while I was writing mine makes me pretty confident in my takeaways from the game since there was a lot of overlap.
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Post by kbones17 on Nov 25, 2020 19:00:10 GMT -5
You have to be quite the optimist to come away from that game encouraged. There were a couple of bright spots. Carey is one of our better players. Kobe surely a good glue guy that has quite a nose for the ball. Blair clearly the best player. He's going to shoot a ton and I'm not sure outside of Carey and Q on the block who I would rather have shoot. The most discouraging was Pickett and Tim. I'm not sure any of the returning guys looked much better than last year. Q's footwork was about all I could say for sure. If you aren't worried about the coaching after that game you are likely never going to think Ewing does anything wrong. We were at our best at the beginning of the 2nd half when we went on the big run by pushing the ball. WE shot 26% on 3's and 50% FT so we still desperately need shooters. If you take out Q's easy stuff we shot 33% overall against an undersized not good defensive low major. The half court offense looked the same as always which is not much at all. If we play teams with no size we can take advantage of it but that ends in the Big East. The defense was slightly improved but they got a ton of open shots. Better teams won't. No clue why Ewing had Tim in for the end of the game stretch. It was reminiscent of him play Yurt over Q in the final St. John's disaster. Just pretty discouraging all around. Jalen Harris was bad and Dante is not ready. We won't be able to get away with starting the 3 guards against BE teams because they will just post us up. Blair and Carey have to play a lot. I think we have to roll with whoever coach feels is the better ball handler of the two. It's not like we run an offense where we have to have a traditional PG. Throw Kobe in to gobble up the misses and hope Jamorko at least gets back to what he was last season. Maybe Bile or Sibley make a difference and can start as well. I do think you make a good suggestion on trying a backcourt of Carey/Blair with Clark at the SF spot. Clark has some point forward capabilities so if we can get by with that trio handling the ball that is a big lineup with good rebounding and three point shooting.
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Post by frozenhoya on Nov 25, 2020 19:00:19 GMT -5
It was nice to watch a Hoyas' game. That wasn't assured over the past few months. The game was ragged and hard to judge much from what we saw, especially with the refs calling fouls every time some tried to defend Rogers. There were some bright spots. Clark's basketball IQ maybe the best on the team. He also has an excellent work ethic. Q is more composed and his hands looked better but he is still riding a learning curve. Q is quick off his feet on the second jump. Tim looked embarrassed every time he made a mistake, which tells me he is uncomfortable. He needs to add some intensity and he needs to just relax and play. Malcolm produced some results but I thought he looked awkward and uncertain doing it. He is very patient blocking shots which could see him develop into an elite defender. Malcom was very quick off his feet. Carey has a nice shot, smooth with good rotation. He was a plus. Jamarko played poorly today and really seemed to lack effort and intensity. He was late picking guys up on the pick and roll, making it look like it was too much trouble. Blair is Blair, a volume shooter and limited athlete with some guile. J Harris dropped some dimes but was pretty meh and didn't shoot well. D Harris looked very underrated. He whipped a no look bomb to Tim that was beautiful. He is fast and was moving his feet on D. I wouldn't be surprised to see his role increase once he gets comfortable. We didn't see enough of his shot to know whether he has one. If he does, he will play. Holloway made a nice frosh cameo. I would have liked to have seen Sibley. Can he take some of Jamarko's minutes? This team so needs a Michael Graham. There was zero intensity and no edge. That may be because it was the first game and so many players are new but I'm not sure about that. Regardless, I'll enjoy some bball this year and cheer for the hoyas.
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Post by professorhoya on Nov 25, 2020 19:04:27 GMT -5
It was nice to watch a Hoyas' game. That wasn't assured over the past few months. The game was ragged and hard to judge much from what we saw, especially with the refs calling fouls every time some tried to defend Rogers. There were some bright spots. Clark's basketball IQ maybe the best on the team. He also has an excellent work ethic. Q is more composed and his hands looked better but he is still riding a learning curve. Q is quick off his feet on the second jump. Tim looked embarrassed every time he made a mistake, which tells me he is uncomfortable. He needs to add some intensity and he needs to just relax and play. Malcolm produced some results but I thought he looked awkward and uncertain doing it. He is very patient blocking shots which could see him develop into an elite defender. Malcom was very quick off his feet. Carey has a nice shot, smooth with good rotation. He was a plus. Jamarko played poorly today and really seemed to lack effort and intensity. He was late picking guys up on the pick and roll, making it look like it was too much trouble. Blair is Blair, a volume shooter and limited athlete with some guile. J Harris dropped some dimes but was pretty meh and didn't shoot well. D Harris looked very underrated. He whipped a no look bomb to Tim that was beautiful. He is fast and was moving his feet on D. I wouldn't be surprised to see his role increase once he gets comfortable. We didn't see enough of his shot to know whether he has one. If he does, he will play. Holloway made a nice frosh cameo. I would have liked to have seen Sibley. Can he take some of Jamarko's minutes? This team so needs a Michael Graham. There was zero intensity and no edge. That may be because it was the first game and so many players are new but I'm not sure about that. Regardless, I'll enjoy some bball this year and cheer for the hoyas. The crowd was flat. Didn’t make any noise or energize the game
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Post by SSHoya on Nov 25, 2020 19:18:21 GMT -5
It was nice to watch a Hoyas' game. That wasn't assured over the past few months. The game was ragged and hard to judge much from what we saw, especially with the refs calling fouls every time some tried to defend Rogers. There were some bright spots. Clark's basketball IQ maybe the best on the team. He also has an excellent work ethic. Q is more composed and his hands looked better but he is still riding a learning curve. Q is quick off his feet on the second jump. Tim looked embarrassed every time he made a mistake, which tells me he is uncomfortable. He needs to add some intensity and he needs to just relax and play. Malcolm produced some results but I thought he looked awkward and uncertain doing it. He is very patient blocking shots which could see him develop into an elite defender. Malcom was very quick off his feet. Carey has a nice shot, smooth with good rotation. He was a plus. Jamarko played poorly today and really seemed to lack effort and intensity. He was late picking guys up on the pick and roll, making it look like it was too much trouble. Blair is Blair, a volume shooter and limited athlete with some guile. J Harris dropped some dimes but was pretty meh and didn't shoot well. D Harris looked very underrated. He whipped a no look bomb to Tim that was beautiful. He is fast and was moving his feet on D. I wouldn't be surprised to see his role increase once he gets comfortable. We didn't see enough of his shot to know whether he has one. If he does, he will play. Holloway made a nice frosh cameo. I would have liked to have seen Sibley. Can he take some of Jamarko's minutes? This team so needs a Michael Graham. There was zero intensity and no edge. That may be because it was the first game and so many players are new but I'm not sure about that. Regardless, I'll enjoy some bball this year and cheer for the hoyas. The crowd was flat. Didn’t make any noise or energize the game Yeah, and attendance only around 500. Even McD can hold more than that . . .
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Post by professorhoya on Nov 25, 2020 19:25:46 GMT -5
UMBC is a decent team. They didn't have height but they had size/strength if that makes any sense and good coaching.
I thought our superior conditioning is what won this first game while we are still gelling. I'd say 4-5 UMBC players cramped up (calf, thigh cramps) or rolled their ankle trying to do too much.
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Post by ccoven on Nov 25, 2020 19:29:03 GMT -5
Because it's fresh on my mind... we are up 9 with 1:15 to go and our senior leaders Blair and Pickett each jack up hurried shots with 12 and 19 left on the shot clock to give UMBC a chance to come back? We're on Year 4 of being unable to understand time and score situations at the end of games. I expect better by now. Overall, an ugly game that doesn't bode well for the rest of this season. As someone put it earlier in the thread, it's a good thing UMBC is a small team that can't shoot. We gave up a lot of open looks and didn't pay for them. That won't happen as the schedule gets tougher. I know we'll have better FT shooting days, but 20 TOs can't be blamed entirely on rust or new guys needing time to gel; a lot of poor decision making and carelessness continue to persist. This is an accurate assessment Couple player observations. First, the bad. For those looking for the big senior leap from Pickett and bought into the Twitter hype, he's the same guy. We don't have better options, but we will be limited as long as he's logging 35+ minutes a night at the 4. J Harris is extremely one-dimesional; if people thought Mosely didn't do anything on the court (which I disagree with), Harris does even less. Aside from facilitating a couple nice runouts, was mostly invisible on both ends of the floor. Timmy showed about 90% of the awkwardness that he did last year, which is fine if you're a 3rd string 5 eating token minutes. It's a bigger problem if you're the backup 5 expected to log 10-15 MPG behind a foul prone starter. The good. Kobe Clark was by far the biggest positive takeaway from tonight. He was active on both ends, didn't mind the physicality, and played within himself. I thought Wilson gave some good minutes; obviously still needs to work on his strength and skill, but the same things I said about Clark apply to Wilson too. If Timmy continues to make dumb mistakes, I could see the minutes distribution change a bit at the backup 5 as the season progresses. I also thought D Harris gave good minutes as well and showed that the distance between him and J Harris isn't that big. About what we expected: Blair is more or less the same as well; he did a great job tonight hitting the glass and following up his own misses, but will that be there when the competition gets tougher? I would put Q in this category as well; he imposed his will on both ends in the second half, but still can't stay away from the silly fouls and gave up a few drives to the rim when he was slow to recover. Carey provided some offense in spurts during the first half and looks comfortable shooting when set, but his efficiency dramatically declines when he's forced to put the ball on the floor and drive. Don't think that BE coaches won't see this and know how to game plan against it. I do think he has the ability to be a bit more consistent as the season progresses, however. Less worried about Bile (a non-impact transfer in my mind) and more about Sibley. Where was he? Didn't see any huge adjustments from the staff in Game 1 aside from going away from the press entirely. UMBC wasn't skilled enough to run a PnR game, so it remains to be seen how we handle it. Didn't like that the staff chose to eat 3 timeouts instead of focusing on getting a double digit win and avoiding the usual end game lull. Take care of business next week and see if we can figure out a way to be competitive against WVU.
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Post by hoya1984 on Nov 25, 2020 19:32:13 GMT -5
Any idea where is Sibley ? I was looking forward to see him play
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