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Post by professorhoya on Jan 5, 2023 19:45:07 GMT -5
Let’s face it, if Mutombo was playing a lot the same conspiracy theorist would just say that Ewing was playing Mutombo because Dikembe and Pat are friends and Ryan is his godson. And how unfair that is to Malcolm and Big Brad.
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Post by hoyasaxaphone on Jan 5, 2023 19:54:10 GMT -5
Ewing's treatment of Mutombo is despicable. Pushing Ezewiro, the shiny new object delivered by Nickelberry, ahead of Mutombo is understandable - but only in the context of how all of the players arrived this year to save Ewing's job. And, in fairness, Ezewiro has looked ok at times. But who is to say that Mutombo would not similarly look ok if given the opportunity? But putting in Wilson, former team manager (for Ewing's convenience only but presumably the lowest opportunity cost to the team), several times ahead of Mutombo is incomprehensible. The sighting of Mutombo at the 40 second mark in a big loss combined with Ewing's cryptic comments after the game raise more issues than they address - but mostly about Ewing as a coach. How Ryan can sit on that bench with a smile on his face and support for his teammates is a real credit to him as a human being.
And while we are at it.............ditto for Ewing's similar treatment of Riley. Forced to play Riley last game, Jordan showed hustle and made an impact. Sure..........he has some things to work on but he was high scorer for the Hoyas in limited minutes, nailed some rebounds, hit his foul shots and played aggressive defense. And he did not jog back down the court after a failed offensive set. His shot needs work but the elevation on his mid-range jumpshot is breathtaking! And his mid-range is about 5 feet closer to the rim than Spears!
At this point, it is just really hard to trust Ewing's judgement (or begin to fathom the motivations) for who plays - or on much else for that matter. SMH.
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Post by hoyajmw on Jan 5, 2023 20:54:46 GMT -5
There HAS to be something more to this (doesn’t there?). We all presumed it was a redshirt thing but maybe instead it is that Ryan just isn’t into playing/is concerned over his dad and trying to focus on school. And both he and Patrick don’t feel it is right to go public with anything along those lines so Ryan just is the supportive teammate. If I had to bet I wouldn’t say this is the reason but it can’t be as tonedeaf as it appears, can it?
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Post by TC on Jan 5, 2023 21:08:52 GMT -5
There HAS to be something more to this (doesn’t there?). We all presumed it was a redshirt thing but maybe instead it is that Ryan just isn’t into playing/is concerned over his dad and trying to focus on school. And both he and Patrick don’t feel it is right to go public with anything along those lines so Ryan just is the supportive teammate. If I had to bet I wouldn’t say this is the reason but it can’t be as tonedeaf as it appears, can it? This is about as believable as the people on this board claiming that maybe Malcolm Wilson wanted to be a manager. People should stop trying to invent excuses for the program. That 40 seconds was on purpose.
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Post by AltoSaxa on Jan 5, 2023 22:52:57 GMT -5
Would love to see RM seek out another program to join.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Jan 5, 2023 23:38:35 GMT -5
I don't understand why this is such a misconception. In college basketball, if you play 1 second of basketball in a season you cannot redshirt. There was and never has been any reason to think that Ryan is redshirting, because he's already played.
The whole concept of a redshirt is that you do not play (and thus do not use a year of eligibility, which operates by school year, not calendar year). The only exception is sometimes if there is a waiver for injury, or extentuating circumstances.
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Post by CTHoya08 on Jan 6, 2023 6:51:18 GMT -5
I don't understand why this is such a misconception. In college basketball, if you play 1 second of basketball in a season you cannot redshirt. There was and never has been any reason to think that Ryan is redshirting, because he's already played. The whole concept of a redshirt is that you do not play (and thus do not use a year of eligibility, which operates by school year, not calendar year). The only exception is sometimes if there is a waiver for injury, or extentuating circumstances. Unless you’re Bradley Hayes! In all seriousness, I assume that posters assumed that RM had an undisclosed injury that might make a redshirt available even after playing a few minutes early in the year.
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Post by BeantownHoya on Jan 6, 2023 7:23:36 GMT -5
Let’s face it, if Mutombo was playing a lot the same conspiracy theorist would just say that Ewing was playing Mutombo because Dikembe and Pat are friends and Ryan is his godson. And how unfair that is to Malcolm and Big Brad. First off I am positive no one would be complaining that Mutumbo is getting PT over the team manager... Also I don't think anyone at any point recommended with Wahab back on the roster he even be the starter... Ryan's lack of foot speed certainly impacts his playing time and I can even see why Akok or Ezewiro and their mobility would be attractive at the 5 at times depending on opponent... All that said the bottom line last time he stepped on the court on Nov 23rd in 11 minutes he went for 6pts and 5reb and never saw the floor since...he was a consensus top 125 kid...we are the worst P5 team in the country the last 2 years and I am pretty sure getting him 5-10 minutes a game would not bring out qanon conspiracy theorists. In fact what most on this board feel is a conspiracy is how the team manager (that let's be honest is mediocre) somehow passed Mutumbo on the depth chart while shooting almost 80% from the field in his limited actions. Anyone feel free to explain that one to me...
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Post by bostonfan on Jan 6, 2023 8:01:34 GMT -5
I don't understand why this is such a misconception. In college basketball, if you play 1 second of basketball in a season you cannot redshirt. There was and never has been any reason to think that Ryan is redshirting, because he's already played. The whole concept of a redshirt is that you do not play (and thus do not use a year of eligibility, which operates by school year, not calendar year). The only exception is sometimes if there is a waiver for injury, or extentuating circumstances. Unless you’re Bradley Hayes! In all seriousness, I assume that posters assumed that RM had an undisclosed injury that might make a redshirt available even after playing a few minutes early in the year. I won't claim to know all of the rules surrounding redshirt years, but I would think Ryan could make the argument that he missed some time to be with his dad, who was going through a serious health concern, and that impacted his chances of playing this season. I realize he has played in some games this year, but it seems the NCAA gives out waivers for a lot of things. With that being said, I really don't understand why Ryan is not playing at all. I won't argue that he should be playing in front of Q or Ezewiro, but if the staff is finding a few minutes for Malcolm in some games, it is hard to believe that Ryan is less effective than Malcolm. That is not meant as a criticism of Malcolm, who seems like a great young man, but has never really shown he can be an effective D1 college player. It certainly seems like something has probably occurred between the coach and the player and the player is not playing at all because of that.
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Post by hoyajmw on Jan 6, 2023 8:36:46 GMT -5
I won't claim to know all of the rules surrounding redshirt years, but I would think Ryan could make the argument that he missed some time to be with his dad, who was going through a serious health concern, and that impacted his chances of playing this season. I realize he has played in some games this year, but it seems the NCAA gives out waivers for a lot of things. With that being said, I really don't understand why Ryan is not playing at all. I won't argue that he should be playing in front of Q or Ezewiro, but if the staff is finding a few minutes for Malcolm in some games, it is hard to believe that Ryan is less effective than Malcolm. That is not meant as a criticism of Malcolm, who seems like a great young man, but has never really shown he can be an effective D1 college player. It certainly seems like something has probably occurred between the coach and the player and the player is not playing at all because of that. The Josh Smith transfer is along these lines. Played for UCLA early in the year (heck, played against US at the Barclay's arena when it first opened), then transfered to GU and was ultimately granted that entire year of eligibility. So exceptions CAN be made, but just as apparent the more one plays the more dicey getting more eligibility becomes, and as the process is completely opaque/private who knows?
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Post by madgesiq92 on Jan 6, 2023 9:01:53 GMT -5
Let’s face it, if Mutombo was playing a lot the same conspiracy theorist would just say that Ewing was playing Mutombo because Dikembe and Pat are friends and Ryan is his godson. And how unfair that is to Malcolm and Big Brad. This is intellectually dishonest, but I understand with you that intellect is a challenge. If this was true, you will be able to find posts by "conspiracy theorists" complaining last year that Ryan was a key part of the rotation while Malcolm was at the end of the bench. I'll hang up and listen.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Jan 6, 2023 15:58:31 GMT -5
I don't understand why this is such a misconception. In college basketball, if you play 1 second of basketball in a season you cannot redshirt. There was and never has been any reason to think that Ryan is redshirting, because he's already played. The whole concept of a redshirt is that you do not play (and thus do not use a year of eligibility, which operates by school year, not calendar year). The only exception is sometimes if there is a waiver for injury, or extentuating circumstances. Unless you’re Bradley Hayes! In all seriousness, I assume that posters assumed that RM had an undisclosed injury that might make a redshirt available even after playing a few minutes early in the year. Probably so. Hayes did get a waiver to play a 5th year, but that (still) is an extremely rare thing for a player to get, and Hayes had significant family issues he had to deal with. Of course, most of the current crop of guys have 5 years because of the COVID year, but that will phase out when those guys work their way through the system over the next few years. To the other poster's point, Josh Smith also got a waiver. For what it's worth, I think the current rules as constructed are a bit silly. For example, in Smith's case, he transferred after a handful of games, he didn't play much, and as a result, without any waiver, he would have lost that entire year of eligibility (and what ultimately would have amounted to losing almost 1.5 years of play). I posted at length at the time on how unfair it was. But, purely from a positional standpoint, there is no sense in a coach not playing someone for redshirt reasons after they have clocked even one minute. Because once you play, no redshirt, and you need a waiver. The NCAA does seem to hand waivers out copiously, but you still need one.
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Post by hoyainla on Jan 6, 2023 18:41:53 GMT -5
I will caveat this by saying it's in limited minutes which helps on this team but Ryan has by far the highest Box+-, WS/40, Lowest defensive rating (good thing) etc. They would be worse if he got more time but there is no way you can look at his numbers and say he doesn't deserve more run. Maybe it was just weird timing but the last game he played was the American loss. He played pretty well but I am thinking that was the game that really took Ewing back to a bad place. The losses up to that point in the season were somewhat excusable. Ezewiro did not play the American game and then seemingly got Ryan's minutes in the UMBC game which we won. I am sure in Ewing's mind that meant Bradley was better than Ryan and deserved those minutes from there on out. That really is the best I can come up with. It seems so simple minded but with the way Ewing has treated last year's players I don't think it's far fetched.
I just still can't believe that in this circumstance of a terrible team why not give your very ill friend's kid and someone you have know his whole life some run. Deke clearly enjoys watching Ryan play hence he showed up for a lot of games last year. I would think he would love to see his son play in these hard times for him. This wouldn't be a charity case thing because Ryan is more than good enough and may be the best of the 3 depending on the night. If we were competitive and Ryan was costing us games I would definitely be on Ewing's case if playing Ryan was the reason we were losing. Neither of those is the case right now.
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Post by calhoya on Jan 7, 2023 18:30:31 GMT -5
Ryan is obviously being punished for some transgression. Not getting a minute in a blowout loss when you starter is again a disaster and his backup not much better says that whatever the issue it is clearly not reparable any time soon. If Ewing had any credibility as a coach it would be different but even an incompetent coach has to see that the options in front of Ryan are not clearly superior. So I will assume that this is not basketball related but then again why speculate as it won’t change anything.
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Post by TC on Jan 7, 2023 18:45:23 GMT -5
Ryan is obviously being punished for some transgression. Not getting a minute in a blowout loss when you starter is again a disaster and his backup not much better says that whatever the issue it is clearly not reparable any time soon. If Ewing had any credibility as a coach it would be different but even an incompetent coach has to see that the options in front of Ryan are not clearly superior. So I will assume that this is not basketball related but then again why speculate as it won’t change anything. I really doubt Ryan is being punished for a "transgression" - if you look at Ewing's history, he never really has actually punished anyone for a "transgression" - he played them anyway (see : Galen Alexander, Myron Gardner, Josh LeBlanc). Ewing doesn't trust anyone but upperclass transfers, and because he won't be the coach next year he doesn't care about playing people to get them developmental experience. He's a short-timer, so there's going to 0 focus on long term development. If Brandon Murray and Jay Heath were healthy, he wouldn't be playing Riley or Anglin either. If Ewing is allowed to keep coaching, he's going to keep shorting the underclassmen who could be around next year and sabotaging the program going forward.
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Post by iowa80 on Jan 7, 2023 18:47:46 GMT -5
The more I see of Wahab, the morer questions I have about Ryan's lack of PT.
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Post by blazeshoya on Jan 7, 2023 20:30:46 GMT -5
The more I see of Wahab, the morer questions I have about Ryan's lack of PT. Wahab has to have incriminating photos of Ewing only reason he can get as much time as he does. The game has become a five out world, but we want to keep pounding it inside. Shocker we’re 0 for 26 and counting…
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Post by TC on Feb 2, 2023 9:14:29 GMT -5
2 minutes for Ryan last night.
Someone has to explain how this makes sense for a team coming in 1-10 in conference - other than the obvious moral hazard explanation of the Coach not caring about developing or retaining next year's team since he's a lame duck, why :
Ryan 2 minutes Anglin 0 minutes Bass 0 minutes
If Heath hadn't gotten hurt, Riley would still be in this group too.
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Post by 78HOYA78 on Feb 2, 2023 9:32:28 GMT -5
Yes - strange indeed especially since they went from some to none. Ryan minutes still a mystery. 7 footer and over 250lbs (?). The few games I seen him play (especially last season) he posted well but the ball did not get dropped to him. Something must be going in in practice. Even Muresan should have seen some time. Still don't understand why the Muresan brothers stayed with this program.
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Post by practice on Feb 2, 2023 10:30:31 GMT -5
This is yet another instance of Ewing not being qualified to coach in 2023. Mutumbo is unique because of family ties, but recruits with any upside will bolt if they can’t get any run. I was shocked that Riley didn’t leave after last year and the influx of transfers. On a winning team maybe you can get underclassmen to buy into patience but not when the team stinks. Bass wasn’t highly touted but Anglin will certainly have plenty of options if he wants.
Ewing seems to see usage through the lens of his playing days at Georgetown 40 years ago and through the NBA. He treats student athletes like roster slots on the Knicks. All the time to his new starters and proclaimed best players. He doesn’t develop four year players. He sets the team up for failure by bringing in new starters every year.
Maybe Ryan will stay 4 years because of his family - but if his last name was Murphy I’m sure he’d be headed to the portal.
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