hoyas315
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Post by hoyas315 on Mar 24, 2022 18:53:39 GMT -5
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Mar 24, 2022 22:31:14 GMT -5
Riley is a dog as are Bass and Anglin. We just need a bruising PF to come in to complement the team and we’ll be a tough, physical unit next year. Got a great S&C coach so I know the younger boys will take a huge step forward this year with their bodies. Psyched to follow the off-season and finally get to Kenner. Hoyas need the 21st century version of Michael Graham. I too look forward to Kenner and nostalgic visits to the Tombs. All right, now!
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78HOYA78
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Post by 78HOYA78 on Mar 25, 2022 8:50:06 GMT -5
Yes - what I have been preaching. We need an alpha dog willing to do the dirty work and not worry about the stat sheets. Get some tips, rebounds, loose balls and jump at someone on a missed assignment for the good of the team.
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Post by michaelgrahamfan on Mar 25, 2022 9:04:23 GMT -5
Did someone mention Michael Graham? The real upsets of 1 seeds last night were caused by extended periods of pressing defense. Reminiscent of JT II. I would not mind losing as much if we just played aggressive defense. That is what I miss the most.
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Post by Retro_hoya on Mar 25, 2022 10:16:32 GMT -5
I didn’t check twitter but I went to Instagram to see what some of the younger guys are saying about the hire - beard didn’t have any IG stories about Nickelberry but did have one of GU hoops shoes / seemed to be at the Gym. Bristol reposted the Hoya Hoops IG story welcoming Nickelberry. Nothing that I could see for JBill, Riley, or Aminu. (Some of these guys have private accounts so it may not mean anything whatsoever that I couldn’t see anything! I think all but Aminu have tagged the team account in their bio (except Mutombo but he’s expressed satisfaction.)
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DanMcQ
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Post by DanMcQ on May 16, 2022 23:44:00 GMT -5
Exhibit A of why our rules ask posters to refrain from speculation about the status of current student athletes. Not only is it disrespectful, they’re forced to answer baseless speculation.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on May 17, 2022 7:34:45 GMT -5
Exhibit A of why our rules ask posters to refrain from speculation about the status of current student athletes. Not only is it disrespectful, they’re forced to answer baseless speculation. Dan it is a good rule to have no doubt. With that being said (I'll be enrolling at the University of....kidding), these kids need to focus on themselves and what is happening in the real world, not online. They don't need to answer to anybody or address any rumors. They also are now in the NIL world where their ability to make money off their game is going to generate all sorts of unnecessary distractions. Hopefully they are getting media training (including social media training) at Gtown and will know how to address posts like this in the future.
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Post by BeantownHoya on May 17, 2022 7:58:42 GMT -5
Exhibit A of why our rules ask posters to refrain from speculation about the status of current student athletes. Not only is it disrespectful, they’re forced to answer baseless speculation. Dan it is a good rule to have no doubt. With that being said (I'll be enrolling at the University of....kidding), these kids need to focus on themselves and what is happening in the real world, not online. They don't need to answer to anybody or address any rumors. They also are now in the NIL world where their ability to make money off their game is going to generate all sorts of unnecessary distractions. Hopefully they are getting media training (including social media training) at Gtown and will know how to address posts like this in the future. Not disagreeing with you just a few counterpoints: 1. I think this day and age it feels almost impossible for kids and even adults not to want to respond to something untrue online. I think that is human nature. Heck I can't do as a 45 year old man on here when I feel my opinion/view has been slanted in some way. 2. The online world is the real world to these kids. So much of their socializing is done online with their friends and peers. I don't think in their eyes there is any difference between the 2. 3. Lastly and where I will defend Mutumbo (if I have my facts straight) and you may already know this. I believe his response derived from an article from Casual Hoya on the Monzone commitment and scholarship availability and the idea that Mutumbo may consider becoming a "preferred walk on". So this wasn't some average Joe meathead like myself creating a rumor it was a fairly large online entity in the Hoya world. So in this particular case I see why he felt the need to respond.
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DanMcQ
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Post by DanMcQ on May 17, 2022 8:26:49 GMT -5
I realize this is just a tiny corner of the internet universe, but we’d prefer not to contribute to rumors and speculation about specific people. College students DO live their lives online and as much as we’d like to say “ah, don’t pay any attention to it” that just isn’t possible.
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TC
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Post by TC on May 17, 2022 9:31:27 GMT -5
Casual Hoya post-publishing edit :
How is printing a bunch of rumors "dismissing them"? Dismissing them would be something like "I heard X, but that does not make sense because of Y, Z, and A." The author tried to substantiate the Ryan Mutombo rumor based on a Trey Mourning rumor that they didn't even bother to explain and the Trey Mourning thing doesn't make any sense.
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hoya9797
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Post by hoya9797 on May 17, 2022 10:41:37 GMT -5
Casual Hoya post-publishing edit : How is printing a bunch of rumors "dismissing them"? Dismissing them would be something like "I heard X, but that does not make sense because of Y, Z, and A." The author tried to substantiate the Ryan Mutombo rumor based on a Trey Mourning rumor that they didn't even bother to explain and the Trey Mourning thing doesn't make any sense. Isn’t the whole idea of moving a recruited scholarship player to walk on status ineffective? This seems to come up every so often and I seem to recall that a recruited player will count against the scholarship limit as long as he is on the roster regardless of his actual financial aid status.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on May 17, 2022 11:08:02 GMT -5
Casual Hoya post-publishing edit : How is printing a bunch of rumors "dismissing them"? Dismissing them would be something like "I heard X, but that does not make sense because of Y, Z, and A." The author tried to substantiate the Ryan Mutombo rumor based on a Trey Mourning rumor that they didn't even bother to explain and the Trey Mourning thing doesn't make any sense. Isn’t the whole idea of moving a recruited scholarship player to walk on status ineffective? This seems to come up every so often and I seem to recall that a recruited player will count against the scholarship limit as long as he is on the roster regardless of his actual financial aid status. Yes. Somehow Andre Drummond did it, but you're not supposed to be able to do it. But, even that's distinguishable, because I think technically Drummond was never on scholarship, whereas Mutomobo clearly was last year.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2022 12:21:15 GMT -5
Isn’t the whole idea of moving a recruited scholarship player to walk on status ineffective? This seems to come up every so often and I seem to recall that a recruited player will count against the scholarship limit as long as he is on the roster regardless of his actual financial aid status. Yes. Somehow Andre Drummond did it, but you're not supposed to be able to do it. But, even that's distinguishable, because I think technically Drummond was never on scholarship, whereas Mutomobo clearly was last year. Think it’s because Drummond never took an official visit to UConn
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TC
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Post by TC on May 17, 2022 12:31:40 GMT -5
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Post by TC on Jan 5, 2023 10:53:57 GMT -5
The optics of this are terrible because of the political situation of Dikembe Mutombo on the Board of Directors and Ryan Mutombo on the basketball team. There's no explanation for doghousing a kid behind someone you stripped a scholarship from, there's no evidence or rumor he's done anything wrong, Ryan has been nothing but gracious on his social media, and by the stats, he's been the most productive player in a Hoya uniform in the small amount of minutes he has played.
Putting a kid in in the last 40 seconds, after you put in Wilson, in a game that doesn't matter and was out of hand is the coaching version of showing a kid up. Ewing did it before to Jordan Riley before this year as well. None of this makes any sense and I don't know why we're supposed to give the coach the benefit of the doubt in this situation - at some point, if you're unwilling to explain the situation alongside with some public praise and and graciousness and affection for the player, you own what people assume and that some part of this is retributive.
Ewing is not at a point where he can be showing up underclassmen. JT2 could do that because he was a great teacher and the tough love was balanced publicly and privately with affection, and because he actually developed kids, and because he was in it for the long haul and we knew he'd be the coach next year. Ewing is doing real damage to our program by doing this sort of stuff because those kids could be here next year and he most likely will not, and his behavior is going to drive them away. His pride is not worth us losing another transfer.
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Bigs"R"Us
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Jan 5, 2023 11:46:33 GMT -5
Trey and Ryan should have gone elsewhere and actually played. Fathers are selfish in this way and want to relive their childhoods through their kids.
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TC
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Post by TC on Jan 5, 2023 11:47:10 GMT -5
Trey and Ryan should have gone elsewhere and actually played. Father’s are selfish in this way and want to relive their childhoods through their kids. Patrick Ewing should go somewhere else.
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CTHoya08
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Post by CTHoya08 on Jan 5, 2023 13:45:55 GMT -5
Trey and Ryan should have gone elsewhere and actually played. Fathers are selfish in this way and want to relive their childhoods through their kids. Ryan Mutombo was a four-star recruit with an offer from Tennessee, a program that is in the midst of multiple seasons of successful basketball (currently top-ten in both polls). He's not some marginal recruit that wasn't a high-major player but ended up at GU because his father has connections. Sure, it seems pretty likely that his father pushed him to accept the GU offer over the UT one, but by all indications he was a worthy BE-level basketball recruit, not some scrub who should have gone to a CAA school instead in order to get playing time.
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calhoya
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Post by calhoya on Jan 5, 2023 14:26:02 GMT -5
Ryan's limited playing opportunities this year and last do not reflect someone who cannot play at this level. They reflect a relatively raw recruit with some skill and a need to develop more to be a more complete player. Some of his shortcomings in terms of quickness or lack thereof may not be correctable but that is why you develop these players to fit within a system that suits their skills--or you do not recruit them.
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Post by hoyasaxaphone on Jan 5, 2023 19:36:03 GMT -5
The optics of this are terrible because of the political situation of Dikembe Mutombo on the Board of Directors and Ryan Mutombo on the basketball team. There's no explanation for doghousing a kid behind someone you stripped a scholarship from, there's no evidence or rumor he's done anything wrong, Ryan has been nothing but gracious on his social media, and by the stats, he's been the most productive player in a Hoya uniform in the small amount of minutes he has played. Putting a kid in in the last 40 seconds, after you put in Wilson, in a game that doesn't matter and was out of hand is the coaching version of showing a kid up. Ewing did it before to Jordan Riley before this year as well. None of this makes any sense and I don't know why we're supposed to give the coach the benefit of the doubt in this situation - at some point, if you're unwilling to explain the situation alongside with some public praise and and graciousness and affection for the player, you own what people assume and that some part of this is retributive. Ewing is not at a point where he can be showing up underclassmen. JT2 could do that because he was a great teacher and the tough love was balanced publicly and privately with affection, and because he actually developed kids, and because he was in it for the long haul and we knew he'd be the coach next year. Ewing is doing real damage to our program by doing this sort of stuff because those kids could be here next year and he most likely will not, and his behavior is going to drive them away. His pride is not worth us losing another transfer.
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