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Post by hoyas315 on Sept 9, 2020 12:09:06 GMT -5
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Post by hoyainla on Sept 9, 2020 13:53:36 GMT -5
At least we make the Big Dance! 🙂 They would have to rename it The Big Mosh Pit. or The Big Money Grab.
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Post by MCIGuy on Sept 9, 2020 13:57:32 GMT -5
"This is being done to "celebrate" college basketball." This is usual coaching nonsense. You would have 200 teams playing to get into a round of 256, then two more weeks of rounds to get to 64. How do teams get across country to get to these games? What arena is hosting 24 Thursday games? Read: "This is being done to protect our coaches who are about to be fired." Boston College, step right up... I would say its more along the lines of ACC coaches wanting every ACC team in the tournament because without much of an early season schedule it may be hard to even get half the ACC teams in. The ACC is NEVER looking out for non Power 5 teams or even non-ACC teams in general.
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Post by Elvado on Sept 9, 2020 18:18:00 GMT -5
"This is being done to "celebrate" college basketball." This is usual coaching nonsense. You would have 200 teams playing to get into a round of 256, then two more weeks of rounds to get to 64. How do teams get across country to get to these games? What arena is hosting 24 Thursday games? Read: "This is being done to protect our coaches who are about to be fired." Boston College, step right up... I would say its more along the lines of ACC coaches wanting every ACC team in the tournament because without much of an early season schedule it may be hard to even get half the ACC teams in. The ACC is NEVER looking out for non Power 5 teams or even non-ACC teams in general. Good rule of thumb: if Count Chocula is for it, be against it.
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Post by professorhoya on Sept 9, 2020 20:07:57 GMT -5
I would say its more along the lines of ACC coaches wanting every ACC team in the tournament because without much of an early season schedule it may be hard to even get half the ACC teams in. The ACC is NEVER looking out for non Power 5 teams or even non-ACC teams in general. Good rule of thumb: if Count Chocula is for it, be against it. I don't understand Count Chocula's thinking. 300 teams. And I'm assuming the ACC bubble doesn't have just one team coming out of it's bracket. If you are trying to keep bubbles and trying to stop the spread of COVID this makes zero sense as you would spread the ACC teams among the 300 entrants.
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Post by DanMcQ on Sept 10, 2020 20:08:57 GMT -5
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Post by DanMcQ on Sept 11, 2020 13:54:53 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2020 10:27:07 GMT -5
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hoyas315
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Post by hoyas315 on Oct 14, 2020 15:48:00 GMT -5
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Post by professorhoya on Oct 15, 2020 7:23:35 GMT -5
shouldnt that be retroactive to last year and those who missed out on March madness
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Post by BigmanU on Oct 15, 2020 8:01:13 GMT -5
It would have made more sense, but those kids are no longer enrolled at their respective schools.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2020 11:07:25 GMT -5
shouldnt that be retroactive to last year and those who missed out on March madness Some kids didn't really miss any meaningful games last year -- see our GU Hoyas. Those around this year may have missed a shot the postseason last year, but definitely lost practice/play time over this offseason, and have the specter of a zombie season ahead of them. I'm not saying either class deserves (or doesn't) an extra year, but I see how the argument is much stronger this year.
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Post by EasyEd on Oct 15, 2020 11:23:36 GMT -5
Really bad decision by NCAA. The whole world is suffering the consequences of COVID-19. Why should college athletes be given special treatment at the expense of incoming recruits and the colleges themselves?
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Post by HometownHoya on Oct 15, 2020 11:49:25 GMT -5
Really bad decision by NCAA. The whole world is suffering the consequences of COVID-19. Why should college athletes be given special treatment at the expense of incoming recruits and the colleges themselves? This won't take spots from incoming recruits. It's granting Seniors an extra year of play time while not counting against the scholarship limit. Also just because others are suffering, why does it mean that everyone HAS to suffer. TBH I wish more out there were doing what the NCAA is doing and be more lenient about lost time.
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Post by MCIGuy on Oct 15, 2020 12:47:53 GMT -5
Really bad decision by NCAA. The whole world is suffering the consequences of COVID-19. Why should college athletes be given special treatment at the expense of incoming recruits and the colleges themselves? This won't take spots from incoming recruits. It's granting Seniors an extra year of play time while not counting against the scholarship limit. Also just because others are suffering, why does it mean that everyone HAS to suffer. TBH I wish more out there were doing what the NCAA is doing and be more lenient about lost time. It's clogging as far as I am concerned. I could understand it being done for last season's seniors, but if the seniors of this season get to finish their year, then they should not be granted one. And to be perfectly blunt I don't want any upperclassmen on this current roster for Georgetown getting in the way of the kids coming in next year. Handing out playing time could likely have been a big headache even before this decision was made.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Oct 15, 2020 13:54:05 GMT -5
This won't take spots from incoming recruits. It's granting Seniors an extra year of play time while not counting against the scholarship limit. Also just because others are suffering, why does it mean that everyone HAS to suffer. TBH I wish more out there were doing what the NCAA is doing and be more lenient about lost time. It's clogging as far as I am concerned. I could understand it being done for last season's seniors, but if the seniors of this season get to finish their year, then they should not be granted one. And to be perfectly blunt I don't want any upperclassmen on this current roster for Georgetown getting in the way of the kids coming in next year. Handing out playing time could likely have been a big headache even before this decision was made. I think you're making a couple assumptions here that: 1. Any current seniors would want to come back for another year at their current school 2. A school would extend a scholarship to any current seniors for next year (even if it doesn't count against the 13 scholarship limit) It would be interesting to know how many spring sport athletes that were graduating in 2020 decided to come back for this year with the extra year of eligibility (and their schools kept them). I feel like athletes without professional aspirations in their sports would likely rather graduate and start their careers, and athletes with professional aspirations in their sports would likely rather graduate and start their careers. Which would mean this announcement from the NCAA is mostly a PR move that won't have much of an effect on the landscape of college sports, let alone college basketball. The transfer waiver though, that's a much bigger deal.
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Post by professorhoya on Oct 15, 2020 14:43:19 GMT -5
It's clogging as far as I am concerned. I could understand it being done for last season's seniors, but if the seniors of this season get to finish their year, then they should not be granted one. And to be perfectly blunt I don't want any upperclassmen on this current roster for Georgetown getting in the way of the kids coming in next year. Handing out playing time could likely have been a big headache even before this decision was made. I think you're making a couple assumptions here that: 1. Any current seniors would want to come back for another year at their current school 2. A school would extend a scholarship to any current seniors for next year (even if it doesn't count against the 13 scholarship limit) It would be interesting to know how many spring sport athletes that were graduating in 2020 decided to come back for this year with the extra year of eligibility (and their schools kept them). I feel like athletes without professional aspirations in their sports would likely rather graduate and start their careers, and athletes with professional aspirations in their sports would likely rather graduate and start their careers. Which would mean this announcement from the NCAA is mostly a PR move that won't have much of an effect on the landscape of college sports, let alone college basketball. The transfer waiver though, that's a much bigger deal. I think it can help a guy who is good but has no pro aspirations but wants to go to grad school. So maybe a rotation big (who can come in when the star big is in foul trouble) or a 3pt specialist (think 6-2 Duncan Robinson, but with the same or lack of coordination and athleticism as the 6-7 Duncan Robinson) I think it can give someone like that 5 years of eligibility and 5 cracks at the NCAA tourney/championship assuming this year is his freshman year.
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Post by calhoya on Oct 15, 2020 15:25:53 GMT -5
I am just hoping that there is a season so that this is a relevant discussion. My fear is that sports seasons are going to start being cancelled based upon the events starting to unfold in NCAA football, plus the second wave of this COVID pandemic that appears to be spreading again.
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Post by EasyEd on Oct 15, 2020 18:48:30 GMT -5
Really bad decision by NCAA. The whole world is suffering the consequences of COVID-19. Why should college athletes be given special treatment at the expense of incoming recruits and the colleges themselves? This won't take spots from incoming recruits. It's granting Seniors an extra year of play time while not counting against the scholarship limit. Also just because others are suffering, why does it mean that everyone HAS to suffer. TBH I wish more out there were doing what the NCAA is doing and be more lenient about lost time. This ruling by the NCAA will cost playing time for incoming recruits so, effectively, those with their eligibility extended will be pampered while the incoming will be penalized. It's the incoming recruits that will suffer. The team will also suffer as it attempts to satisfy 13-15 players on the team. The colleges will also suffer as they will either have to swallow the cost of additional scholarships or decide not to offer fifth year scholarships. I hope Georgetown will take the latter approach and announce it will not fund scholarships for the extra year and move on. This is especially the best option since the BB Hoyas did not lose any playing time last season. Millions of people have lost their livelihood, some forever, and we are worried about the poor athletes who met a bump in the road while simultaneously earning a degree? Gimme a break.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2020 18:59:55 GMT -5
This won't take spots from incoming recruits. It's granting Seniors an extra year of play time while not counting against the scholarship limit. Also just because others are suffering, why does it mean that everyone HAS to suffer. TBH I wish more out there were doing what the NCAA is doing and be more lenient about lost time. This ruling by the NCAA will cost playing time for incoming recruits so, effectively, those with their eligibility extended will be pampered while the incoming will be penalized. It's the incoming recruits that will suffer. The team will also suffer as it attempts to satisfy 13-15 players on the team. The colleges will also suffer as they will either have to swallow the cost of additional scholarships or decide not to offer fifth year scholarships. I hope Georgetown will take the latter approach and announce it will not fund scholarships for the extra year and move on. This is especially the best option since the BB Hoyas did not lose any playing time last season. Millions of people have lost their livelihood, some forever, and we are worried about the poor athletes who met a bump in the road while simultaneously earning a degree? Gimme a break. Most of the kids at the hm level will move on to the professional ranks. For those that don't that option it gives them an opportunity to work on advanced degrees. I doubt there's going to be a lot of impact players sticking around college for another year just because, so I think your making more out of it than what it is.
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