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Post by DanMcQ on Oct 5, 2020 14:10:21 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2020 14:20:58 GMT -5
Please: PLAY IN McDONOUGH!!! I couldn't agree more. First off you would have very easy access for all students and no excuse not to be at the games. McD would be packed with a pep band and wild students making it a great home court advantage. But most importantly, you would have a participation feel for the students. Small gym, everyone seems to be in the game. I recall my college days on the other coast and Stanfurd had a gym that seated 2500, while Cal had Harmon Gym (yes, Gym!) that seated just around 6,000. The former has been replaced, the latter expanded and neither has the fan intimacy of the days of yore. It was just wild. Capital One seems to be this massive expanse where seats have to be covered, students just don't seem to make it there except in the very best of years, and the college campus feel for the game is certainly no there. Another vote for McDonough. Unfortunately that McD wasn't expanded in the Thompsen Center expansion. It would have been perfect. If G'town ever got a good football team I am sure the new stadium will look like a genius call. Having the events on campus is soooo important. Can you tear down the old McD gym and build a dome in it's place? Or is there not enough real estate in that area of the campus to do so?
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Post by bearsandbulls on Oct 5, 2020 15:10:50 GMT -5
I couldn't agree more. First off you would have very easy access for all students and no excuse not to be at the games. McD would be packed with a pep band and wild students making it a great home court advantage. But most importantly, you would have a participation feel for the students. Small gym, everyone seems to be in the game. I recall my college days on the other coast and Stanfurd had a gym that seated 2500, while Cal had Harmon Gym (yes, Gym!) that seated just around 6,000. The former has been replaced, the latter expanded and neither has the fan intimacy of the days of yore. It was just wild. Capital One seems to be this massive expanse where seats have to be covered, students just don't seem to make it there except in the very best of years, and the college campus feel for the game is certainly no there. Another vote for McDonough. Unfortunately that McD wasn't expanded in the Thompsen Center expansion. It would have been perfect. If G'town ever got a good football team I am sure the new stadium will look like a genius call. Having the events on campus is soooo important. Can you tear down the old McD gym and build a dome in it's place? Or is there not enough real estate in that area of the campus to do so?Don't
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Post by bearsandbulls on Oct 5, 2020 15:26:44 GMT -5
I couldn't agree more. First off you would have very easy access for all students and no excuse not to be at the games. McD would be packed with a pep band and wild students making it a great home court advantage. But most importantly, you would have a participation feel for the students. Small gym, everyone seems to be in the game. I recall my college days on the other coast and Stanfurd had a gym that seated 2500, while Cal had Harmon Gym (yes, Gym!) that seated just around 6,000. The former has been replaced, the latter expanded and neither has the fan intimacy of the days of yore. It was just wild. Capital One seems to be this massive expanse where seats have to be covered, students just don't seem to make it there except in the very best of years, and the college campus feel for the game is certainly no there. Another vote for McDonough. Unfortunately that McD wasn't expanded in the Thompsen Center expansion. It would have been perfect. If G'town ever got a good football team I am sure the new stadium will look like a genius call. Having the events on campus is soooo important. Can you tear down the old McD gym and build a dome in it's place? Or is there not enough real estate in that area of the campus to do so? I do not know the answer to your question, but it sure would be sweet. I would imagine a number of the alums would prefer Capital One as getting to and parking on campus could be a problem and some of the cushy amenities may be more restricted, but I love college sports for the students first, and I think some sort of a McDonough solution would be wonderful.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2020 15:55:57 GMT -5
Can you tear down the old McD gym and build a dome in it's place? Or is there not enough real estate in that area of the campus to do so? I do not know the answer to your question, but it sure would be sweet. I would imagine a number of the alums would prefer Capital One as getting to and parking on campus could be a problem and some of the cushy amenities may be more restricted, but I love college sports for the students first, and I think some sort of a McDonough solution would be wonderful. As far as parking, it shouldn't be too big of a problem since McD is right off Canal Road. I mean you could enter the games from the backside of the campus instead of from the front side or Prospect street. They have a lot of area back there that they could work on to build parking and perhaps build a dome on top of the parking, perhaps? I don't know but it seems there is a lot you can do with the backside entrance area which is where McD is anyway. Perhaps. even with all that landscape back there, it may not be enough for that type of real estate. Okay, well how about this.....How about we take the football stadium and convert that to a dome and use that as a basketball and football dome stadium? What do you think about that? We can rename it the John Thompson Jr dome. Still, you could tear down McD and convert it into a huge parking building for the sports teams. That way, I can drive to the games and park my car and walk right over to the dome. What do you think about that? Wait, what's Georgetown enrollment? 6k, 5k, 4k, 3k? Let's go with the low number. Let's say 3k with 80% going to the games on a regular. Perhaps they could build for a building that can house 1k for parking and perhaps another 2 to 3 thousand come to the games by public transportation. Perhaps they could build a dome stadium that holds 10 to 15 thousand seating. What do you think about that?
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Post by DFW HOYA on Oct 5, 2020 16:38:03 GMT -5
As far as parking, it shouldn't be too big of a problem since McD is right off Canal Road. I mean you could enter the games from the backside of the campus instead of from the front side or Prospect street. They have a lot of area back there that they could work on to build parking and perhaps build a dome on top of the parking, perhaps? I don't know but it seems there is a lot you can do with the backside entrance area which is where McD is anyway. Perhaps. even with all that landscape back there, it may not be enough for that type of real estate. Okay, well how about this.....How about we take the football stadium and convert that to a dome and use that as a basketball and football dome stadium? What do you think about that? We can rename it the John Thompson Jr dome. Still, you could tear down McD and convert it into a huge parking building for the sports teams. That way, I can drive to the games and park my car and walk right over to the dome. What do you think about that? Wait, what's Georgetown enrollment? 6k, 5k, 4k, 3k? Let's go with the low number. Let's say 3k with 80% going to the games on a regular. Perhaps they could build for a building that can house 1k for parking and perhaps another 2 to 3 thousand come to the games by public transportation. Perhaps they could build a dome stadium that holds 10 to 15 thousand seating. What do you think about that? I don't know what to make of these questions, and assuming that it's not well placed HoyaTalk satire or an effort at trolling, I would ask you to do some homework about the campus and the bureaucracy that is Georgetown. To this, a few points: 1. You can't convert the football stadium to a dome. There is not even enough space left to even finish it, so it only has one side of stands. This is due to 1) money; 2) the inattention of 20 years on the need for the facility, and not just for football; 3) the concern that soccer might lose Shaw Field and be forced to move to Cooper at some point, necessitating a wider field and thus no stands to its east; and 4) the need to keep the delivery road from O'Donovan north to the hospital open for future construction, which would be narrowed by permanent stands. 2. There is no money (or space) for a dome. Period. There is no money (or space) for a new arena. Period. There was barely enough money to finish the Thompson Center, given that it took nearly nine years to raise money for it, and may even have relied on some intra-University debt to get it over the finish line. Were it not for the 2007 Final Four it would have never been built. And if it took the Old Georgetown Board years to approve the window motif on the Thompson Center, they are not signing off on a dome. Period. A dome to fit an athletic field is roughly seven acres and 500,000 square feet. The largest facility on campus, the aging Yates Field House, is 142,000 square feet. Simply put, there is not seven open acres anywhere in 20057. 3. You can't tear down McDonough and build extra parking. The city won't allow either. Parking is part of the campus plan and the gym serves as office and practice space for 500+ student athletes and 24 sports not in the Thompson Center. Where do they go? 4. What is enrollment? Roughly 6,800 undergraduate and 19,000 total. The only public transportation to Georgetown is the G2 Metrobus which was recently saved from a proposed shutdown by Metro. No one is riding the G2 to a basketball game. There are roughly 1,380 parking spaces on the main campus, 200 of which are surface parking. You may want to start with this article on the campus plan. No, Visitation is not for sale, we can't buy Mount Vernon, and the Glover-Archbold National Forest is not on the market. dc.curbed.com/2016/9/1/12755624/georgetown-university-campus-plan
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2020 16:41:14 GMT -5
As far as parking, it shouldn't be too big of a problem since McD is right off Canal Road. I mean you could enter the games from the backside of the campus instead of from the front side or Prospect street. They have a lot of area back there that they could work on to build parking and perhaps build a dome on top of the parking, perhaps? I don't know but it seems there is a lot you can do with the backside entrance area which is where McD is anyway. Perhaps. even with all that landscape back there, it may not be enough for that type of real estate. Okay, well how about this.....How about we take the football stadium and convert that to a dome and use that as a basketball and football dome stadium? What do you think about that? We can rename it the John Thompson Jr dome. Still, you could tear down McD and convert it into a huge parking building for the sports teams. That way, I can drive to the games and park my car and walk right over to the dome. What do you think about that? Wait, what's Georgetown enrollment? 6k, 5k, 4k, 3k? Let's go with the low number. Let's say 3k with 80% going to the games on a regular. Perhaps they could build for a building that can house 1k for parking and perhaps another 2 to 3 thousand come to the games by public transportation. Perhaps they could build a dome stadium that holds 10 to 15 thousand seating. What do you think about that? I don't know what to make of these questions, and assuming that it's not well placed HoyaTalk satire or an effort at trolling, I would ask you to do some homework about the campus and the bureaucracy that is Georgetown. To this, a few points: 1. You can't convert the football stadium to a dome. There is not even enough space left to even finish it, so it only has one side of stands. This is due to 1) money; 2) the inattention of 20 years on the need for the facility, and not just for football; 3) the concern that soccer might lose Shaw Field and be forced to move to Cooper at some point, necessitating a wider field and thus no stands to its east; and 4) the need to keep the delivery road from O'Donovan north to the hospital open for future construction, which would be narrowed by permanent stands. 2. There is no money (or space) for a dome. Period. There is no money (or space) for a new arena. Period. There was barely enough money to finish the Thompson Center, given that it took nearly nine years to raise money for it, and may even have relied on some intra-University debt to get it over the finish line. Were it not for the 2007 Final Four it would have never been built. And if it took the Old Georgetown Board years to approve the window motif on the Thompson Center, they are not signing off on a dome. Period. A dome to fit an athletic field is roughly seven acres and 500,000 square feet. The largest facility on campus, the aging Yates Field House, is 142,000 square feet. Simply put, there is not seven open acres anywhere in 20057. 3. You can't tear down McDonough and build extra parking. The city won't allow either. Parking is part of the campus plan and the gym serves as office and practice space for 500+ student athletes and 24 sports not in the Thompson Center. Where do they go? 4. What is enrollment? Roughly 6,800 undergraduate and 19,000 total. The only public transportation to Georgetown is the G2 Metrobus which was recently saved from a proposed shutdown by Metro. No one is riding the G2 to a basketball game. There are roughly 1,380 parking spaces on the main campus, 200 of which are surface parking. You may want to start with this article on the campus plan. No, Visitation is not for sale, we can't buy Mount Vernon, and the Glover-Archbold National Forest is not on the market. dc.curbed.com/2016/9/1/12755624/georgetown-university-campus-planWell I guess you shot my stuff down. I guess I can stop dreaming now. Bummer!
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Post by DFW HOYA on Oct 5, 2020 16:45:48 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2020 16:47:54 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2020 17:04:19 GMT -5
Very good article. Still, we have to do something. I would love to come to the campus and catch my basketball games but until then, I guess I will have to go downtown.
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Post by seaweed on Oct 5, 2020 18:18:10 GMT -5
Please: PLAY IN McDONOUGH!!! I couldn't agree more. First off you would have very easy access for all students and no excuse not to be at the games. McD would be packed with a pep band and wild students making it a great home court advantage. But most importantly, you would have a participation feel for the students. Small gym, everyone seems to be in the game. I recall my college days on the other coast and Stanfurd had a gym that seated 2500, while Cal had Harmon Gym (yes, Gym!) that seated just around 6,000. The former has been replaced, the latter expanded and neither has the fan intimacy of the days of yore. It was just wild. Capital One seems to be this massive expanse where seats have to be covered, students just don't seem to make it there except in the very best of years, and the college campus feel for the game is certainly no there. Another vote for McDonough. Unfortunately that McD wasn't expanded in the Thompsen Center expansion. It would have been perfect. If G'town ever got a good football team I am sure the new stadium will look like a genius call. Having the events on campus is soooo important. So no concerns about packing a small gym during an airborne illness pandemic?
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Post by bearsandbulls on Oct 5, 2020 19:27:56 GMT -5
I couldn't agree more. First off you would have very easy access for all students and no excuse not to be at the games. McD would be packed with a pep band and wild students making it a great home court advantage. But most importantly, you would have a participation feel for the students. Small gym, everyone seems to be in the game. I recall my college days on the other coast and Stanfurd had a gym that seated 2500, while Cal had Harmon Gym (yes, Gym!) that seated just around 6,000. The former has been replaced, the latter expanded and neither has the fan intimacy of the days of yore. It was just wild. Capital One seems to be this massive expanse where seats have to be covered, students just don't seem to make it there except in the very best of years, and the college campus feel for the game is certainly no there. Another vote for McDonough. Unfortunately that McD wasn't expanded in the Thompsen Center expansion. It would have been perfect. If G'town ever got a good football team I am sure the new stadium will look like a genius call. Having the events on campus is soooo important. So no concerns about packing a small gym during an airborne illness pandemic? Well right now Covid is grim, but let's all hope it doesn't last for too many BB seasons.
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Post by hoyas315 on Oct 7, 2020 12:10:37 GMT -5
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Post by 4aks on Oct 7, 2020 23:47:51 GMT -5
I couldn't agree more. First off you would have very easy access for all students and no excuse not to be at the games. McD would be packed with a pep band and wild students making it a great home court advantage. But most importantly, you would have a participation feel for the students. Small gym, everyone seems to be in the game. I recall my college days on the other coast and Stanfurd had a gym that seated 2500, while Cal had Harmon Gym (yes, Gym!) that seated just around 6,000. The former has been replaced, the latter expanded and neither has the fan intimacy of the days of yore. It was just wild. Capital One seems to be this massive expanse where seats have to be covered, students just don't seem to make it there except in the very best of years, and the college campus feel for the game is certainly no there. Another vote for McDonough. Unfortunately that McD wasn't expanded in the Thompsen Center expansion. It would have been perfect. If G'town ever got a good football team I am sure the new stadium will look like a genius call. Having the events on campus is soooo important. So no concerns about packing a small gym during an airborne illness pandemic? Agree: small gym, if it were used, should have all doors and windows open, fans blowing ... Cap one is likely a safer location, if headcount is kept low
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Oct 10, 2020 14:10:00 GMT -5
I couldn't agree more. First off you would have very easy access for all students and no excuse not to be at the games. McD would be packed with a pep band and wild students making it a great home court advantage. But most importantly, you would have a participation feel for the students. Small gym, everyone seems to be in the game. I recall my college days on the other coast and Stanfurd had a gym that seated 2500, while Cal had Harmon Gym (yes, Gym!) that seated just around 6,000. The former has been replaced, the latter expanded and neither has the fan intimacy of the days of yore. It was just wild. Capital One seems to be this massive expanse where seats have to be covered, students just don't seem to make it there except in the very best of years, and the college campus feel for the game is certainly no there. Another vote for McDonough. Unfortunately that McD wasn't expanded in the Thompsen Center expansion. It would have been perfect. If G'town ever got a good football team I am sure the new stadium will look like a genius call. Having the events on campus is soooo important. So no concerns about packing a small gym during an airborne illness pandemic? Perhaps I am missing something, but I was on a Georgetown update call recently, and they said there are 500 or less students on campus (our basketball team surely among them). And, no decision has been made for next semester. Even if COVID was not a concern, where are these students going to come from to fill McDonough? For me, it's mostly an issue of cost. The university is running in the red at the moment. If you can save money by going to McDonough, fine, but if not (i.e., if you have to pay for Capital One anyway), then might as well go there with more space and a better TV setup. I like the idea of McDonough, but if it's going to be empty, I am not sure it's much better than Capital One. In any case, given the early start to league play, it guarantees that even without COVID concerns, our games will mostly be empty regardless of where we play. And if the extra space in Capital One makes it safer from a pandemic perspective, that might make sense.
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Post by DanMcQ on Oct 10, 2020 17:25:38 GMT -5
There aren’t going to be any fans at these games any time soon, until we get a federal administration that commits to a plan to fight the pandemic through consistent masking and physical distancing of ALL the people AND we have a safe and effective vaccine(s) with wide uptake in those people. I think that is far more likely for the 21-22 season than this one, even with a delayed start.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Oct 11, 2020 20:11:11 GMT -5
If the season ends up actually happening, Georgetown will have a huge leg up on the competition. We're used to playing in an empty home arena.
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Post by prhoya on Oct 11, 2020 22:16:55 GMT -5
If the season ends up actually happening, Georgetown will have a huge leg up on the competition. We're used to playing in an empty home arena. And if the arena staff put up cardboard fans around the lower bowl, they will look just as animated as our fans in sections 110-112, 100-101, and 121 the last five years or so. 😷
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Post by MCIGuy on Oct 11, 2020 23:14:39 GMT -5
If the season ends up actually happening, Georgetown will have a huge leg up on the competition. We're used to playing in an empty home arena. Not fair. I already used this joke.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Oct 12, 2020 8:27:54 GMT -5
If the season ends up actually happening, Georgetown will have a huge leg up on the competition. We're used to playing in an empty home arena. Not fair. I already used this joke. great minds ...
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