NCHoya
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Post by NCHoya on Feb 5, 2020 22:53:19 GMT -5
We can lament the start of this game, but the Hoyas absolutely left it all out on the court. We kept this competitive without Mac, and I honestly did not think that was possible. We got a decent game from SHU, it is not like they had their B game. We just did not have the bodies to compete with a top 10 team playing a 10 man rotation.
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Post by BeantownHoya on Feb 5, 2020 22:54:11 GMT -5
Terrific effort. I thought the ball movement on offense was really good. Just didnt knock down quite enough. Really hard to sustain for that length of time with 5.5 players. But boy they battled. The attention to Powell was fine for the most part. He's just that good. Ha I like the 5.5...who is the half a player??
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Post by smokeyjack on Feb 5, 2020 22:54:31 GMT -5
Morko needs to go. We are better without him. Only plays D when he feels like it and cannot shoot. Much better off without him on the floor. Want to see more Wahab less Morko for rest of season. I want him to be the fifth or sixth option next year. If Pat can get a few grads or one of the frosh to start, plus Mac and Qudus, he can be the fifth or sixth. And Blair can interchange with him depending the opponent... Last thing on earth I want is Pickett starting over Blair. Given his effort of late and improvement on D, Blair has impressed the hell out of me. He’s been as big of a pleasant surprise as Pickett has been a devastating disappointment.
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Post by johnnysnowplow on Feb 5, 2020 22:55:04 GMT -5
Terrific effort. I thought the ball movement on offense was really good. Just didnt knock down quite enough. Really hard to sustain for that length of time with 5.5 players. But boy they battled. The attention to Powell was fine for the most part. He's just that good. Ha I like the 5.5...who is the half a player?? Pickett. And .5 is being generous
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Post by saxagael on Feb 5, 2020 22:56:59 GMT -5
Tell me you are watching the same game that has only been playing 6 and pressing and trapping and looking drained, yet giving it their all. You gotta let people vent sometimes man even if it’s unreasonable lol. Basketball is frustrating. Basketball is frustrating if you don't understand it. Understanding what you've got and all the capabilities (or limited capabilities) and working it every which way to get a win when it wasn't possible or sometimes even getting it close is insanely impressive. Hoyas were manufacturing wide open shots, which is great, but having tired legs which are needed for 3s is tough. But, they work the ball well and defend insanely well when horribly mismatched. impressive. That is if you understand the game and like seeing making one hell of of a lot of opportunity out of very little.
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Post by adm1hoya on Feb 5, 2020 22:57:32 GMT -5
The guys played with heart. Just couldn't hit the open shots when needed. They were right there, but Seton Hall is an experienced, tournament bound team; they did not easily fold.
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Post by adm1hoya on Feb 5, 2020 22:58:43 GMT -5
We can lament the start of this game, but the Hoyas absolutely left it all out on the court. We kept this competitive without Mac, and I honestly did not think that was possible. We got a decent game from SHU, it is not like they had their B game. We just did not have the bodies to compete with a top 10 team playing a 10 man rotation. This ☝🏿
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Post by daveg023 on Feb 5, 2020 22:59:38 GMT -5
I come away from that game encouraged by the effort and fight. In my opinion if McKnight was held out we might have won. Missed open 3s and too many second chance points killed us. We also were one guy short.
If we play this way and get Mac back, 8-10 is still possible but there is no margin for error and we probably need some luck.
I’ve been down Ewing but these two games have me feeling better that if we get a few more bodies, we aren’t that far off. Must win (yet again) Saturday vs DePaul. Fingers crossed Mac is back.
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Post by hoya1984 on Feb 5, 2020 23:00:31 GMT -5
I am extremely impress how this team is playing and how well Patrick Ewing is coaching this team. How the defense has improved , changing it all through the game.
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Post by This Just In on Feb 5, 2020 23:02:00 GMT -5
Surprised, that Fox Sports has the Hoyas as part of the last 4 in
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Post by prhoya on Feb 5, 2020 23:02:19 GMT -5
I want him to be the fifth or sixth option next year. If Pat can get a few grads or one of the frosh to start, plus Mac and Qudus, he can be the fifth or sixth. And Blair can interchange with him depending the opponent... Last thing on earth I want is Pickett starting over Blair. Given his effort of late and improvement on D, Blair has impressed the hell out of me. He’s been as big of a pleasant surprise as Pickett has been a devastating disappointment. Hopefully we get 3 Hoya-starter-quality recruits given our roster and available scholarships. We need shooters and playable 4s. Hopefully MAM saw it. [I’m using “hopefully” a lot. Hope springs eternal.]
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Post by hoyaatheart55 on Feb 5, 2020 23:02:33 GMT -5
You gotta let people vent sometimes man even if it’s unreasonable lol. Basketball is frustrating. Basketball is frustrating if you don't understand it. Understanding what you've got and all the capabilities (or limited capabilities) and working it every which way to get a win when it wasn't possible or sometimes even getting it close is insanely impressive. Hoyas were manufacturing wide open shots, which is great, but having tired legs which are needed for 3s is tough. But, they work the ball well and defend insanely well when horribly mismatched. F'ing impressive. That is if you understand the game and like seeing making one hell of of a lot of opportunity out of very little. Given all that, losing is still frustrating. I’m admittedly not an X’s and O’s guy with basketball. Baseball is my area of expertise. But it still bothers me when people go that “you must not understand basketball if you feel differently than me” route. I don’t have to be a basketball expert to recognize that the team is severely undermanned and played their hearts out. I’m still upset about losing because I for one don’t enjoy losing.
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Post by saxagael on Feb 5, 2020 23:03:16 GMT -5
We can lament the start of this game, but the Hoyas absolutely left it all out on the court. We kept this competitive without Mac, and I honestly did not think that was possible. We got a decent game from SHU, it is not like they had their B game. We just did not have the bodies to compete with a top 10 team playing a 10 man rotation. Exactly! Deeply proud of these guys and coaches.
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Post by thedragon on Feb 5, 2020 23:05:14 GMT -5
The guys played with heart. Just couldn't hit the open shots when needed. They were right there, but Seton Hall is an experienced, tournament bound team; they did not easily fold. Seton Hall is a potential 2 seed who had their star go for 34. Their PG have double digit assists. And their center with 7 blocks. Aka, they played well overall. And a 6 man rotation was in a 4 point game at the under 4. Ewing takes a lot of fair criticism both in-game and due to the current roster scenario, but he also deserves credit for getting every bit of juice out of this current group. Theyre coachable, not playing as much 'me' basketball, and are leaving everything they have on the court. I dont believe in moral victories. And 3-7 in conference doesnt cut it in any level. But if Pat could ever get the right talent mix (his responsibility obviously) then I have certainly seen signs of him having the chops to be a solid head coach.
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Post by hoyaatheart55 on Feb 5, 2020 23:07:49 GMT -5
Hopefully MAM was more impressed with our grit and resilience than what he saw from SH.
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Post by adm1hoya on Feb 5, 2020 23:08:32 GMT -5
The guys played with heart. Just couldn't hit the open shots when needed. They were right there, but Seton Hall is an experienced, tournament bound team; they did not easily fold. Seton Hall is a potential 2 seed who had their star go for 34. Their PG have double digit assists. And their center with 7 blocks. Aka, they played well overall. And a 6 man rotation was in a 4 point game at the under 4. Ewing takes a lot of fair criticism both in-game and due to the current roster scenario, but he also deserves credit for getting every bit of juice out of this current group. Theyre coachable, not playing as much 'me' basketball, and are leaving everything they have on the court. I dont believe in moral victories. And 3-7 in conference doesnt cut it in any level. But if Pat could ever get the right talent mix (his responsibility obviously) then I have certainly seen signs of him having the chops to be a solid head coach. Agreed
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Post by saxagael on Feb 5, 2020 23:12:08 GMT -5
Basketball is frustrating if you don't understand it. Understanding what you've got and all the capabilities (or limited capabilities) and working it every which way to get a win when it wasn't possible or sometimes even getting it close is insanely impressive. Hoyas were manufacturing wide open shots, which is great, but having tired legs which are needed for 3s is tough. But, they work the ball well and defend insanely well when horribly mismatched. F'ing impressive. That is if you understand the game and like seeing making one hell of of a lot of opportunity out of very little. Given all that, losing is still frustrating. I’m admittedly not an X’s and O’s guy with basketball. Baseball is my area of expertise. But it still bothers me when people go that “you must not understand basketball if you feel differently than me” route. I don’t have to be a basketball expert to recognize that the team is severely undermanned and played their hearts out. I’m still upset about losing because I for one don’t enjoy losing. I agree losing absolutely sucks. But, being able to see some really amazing things in a loss that is insanely impressive can really help not be all that down. I'm usually around a lot of players where they and their coaches are all in on the winning is everything and you do everything to win (whether it is to improve yourself or help you team mates get better). When you give it all and don't win it sucks, but some days in some situations you gave it everything against all odds. It still sucks, but you also learn to get better. In baseball terms having pitched a perfect game through 26 outs in a 0-0 game and the pitcher gives up a walk off homerun. The pitcher doesn't suck, he is freaking amazing to get that close, sure the loss sucks, but you have witness something deeply impressive. Finding the good and amazing when it is there helps make the game really enjoyable.
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Post by NCHoya on Feb 5, 2020 23:13:06 GMT -5
The guys played with heart. Just couldn't hit the open shots when needed. They were right there, but Seton Hall is an experienced, tournament bound team; they did not easily fold. Seton Hall is a potential 2 seed who had their star go for 34. Their PG have double digit assists. And their center with 7 blocks. Aka, they played well overall. And a 6 man rotation was in a 4 point game at the under 4. Ewing takes a lot of fair criticism both in-game and due to the current roster scenario, but he also deserves credit for getting every bit of juice out of this current group. Theyre coachable, not playing as much 'me' basketball, and are leaving everything they have on the court. I dont believe in moral victories. And 3-7 in conference doesnt cut it in any level. But if Pat could ever get the right talent mix (his responsibility obviously) then I have certainly seen signs of him having the chops to be a solid head coach. I was just writing a similar thought about Ewing. I now firmly believe he can coach, but can he build a roster? Recruit rankings make a splash, but we are seeing that Ewing needs coachable players above all else. He is not the best dealing with difficult or stubborn personalities. When he can get guys on the same page, it works, even if the talent level is not super. If he had a few more bodies similar to the 6 that played tonight, this team would be extremely competitive.
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Post by joey0403p on Feb 5, 2020 23:13:26 GMT -5
Sorry - who is MAM?
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Post by smokeyjack on Feb 5, 2020 23:15:25 GMT -5
GU took more free throws and more shots and committed fewer TOs. You can’t lose with those stats unless you just don’t shoot at all. I mean you just can’t lose that game. It’s almost inconceivable. We can’t shoot at all as a group, but I have totally had it with Pickett. The man is just an absolutely devastating underachiever.
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