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Post by TC on Dec 5, 2020 13:56:18 GMT -5
Nothing about any foot injury story (because it was probably Chudier Bile that was missing time with a foot injury).
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Post by daveg023 on Dec 5, 2020 14:07:38 GMT -5
Nothing about any foot injury story (because it was probably Chudier Bile that was missing time with a foot injury). Ewing has been using this “work in progress” in all his preseason media appearances. Perhaps he knew that this team hasn’t looked so great in the limited work they’ve had, and he’s trying to lower the bar on expectations. Problem is when you are picked last in the league the bar is almost on the floor already.
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Post by BigmanU on Dec 5, 2020 18:16:03 GMT -5
Sibley should not play until Ewing thinks he ready. The same people who want him to see the floor no matter what will also be the first to bury him if he doesn't live up to their expectations of a 4 star.
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Post by drquigley on Dec 5, 2020 20:02:34 GMT -5
Sibley should not play until Ewing thinks he ready. The same people who want him to see the floor no matter what will also be the first to bury him if he doesn't live up to their expectations of a 4 star. The thing is it looks like Sibley isn't up to Ewings expectations and that is the problem.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Dec 5, 2020 20:03:53 GMT -5
Kids who are buried on the bench freshman year typically don’t end up getting big minutes sophomore year. It’s still way early though.
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Post by tashoya on Dec 5, 2020 21:36:08 GMT -5
Sibley should not play until Ewing thinks he ready. The same people who want him to see the floor no matter what will also be the first to bury him if he doesn't live up to their expectations of a 4 star. And, stuck the landing. Agree completely.
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Post by dchoya72 on Dec 6, 2020 21:45:30 GMT -5
Who really knows what the issue is with Sibley? Was he not our highest level recruit this year?
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Post by the_way on Dec 6, 2020 22:01:54 GMT -5
Who really knows what the issue is with Sibley? Was he not our highest level recruit this year? Looks like Sibley is in the same boat as the other freshmen not named Dante and Clark to a lesser extent. It has only been 3 games. We'll have to see how the season progresses.
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Post by dchoya72 on Dec 6, 2020 23:40:24 GMT -5
This is perplexing!
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Post by TC on Dec 7, 2020 7:08:52 GMT -5
Why is it perplexing? Ewing is choosing not to play him. That's the story.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Dec 7, 2020 7:53:19 GMT -5
We live in an age where players don’t come to sit.
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Post by hoopsmccan on Dec 7, 2020 8:11:15 GMT -5
We live in an age where players don’t come to sit. The sooner we can steer away from that type of player the better. (note - there is no indication Sibley has that mindset.) hm
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Dec 7, 2020 8:56:24 GMT -5
I’m hoping he turns into a solid four year player for us.
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Post by mapei on Dec 7, 2020 9:16:16 GMT -5
I'm not nearly as expert as many of you, but:
If our top recruit can't get minutes on this team, I'm troubled by what that says about our recruiting.
If he's being held out for off-court reasons, in my mind that's even worse.
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Post by the_way on Dec 7, 2020 11:23:49 GMT -5
I'm not nearly as expert as many of you, but: If our top recruit can't get minutes on this team, I'm troubled by what that says about our recruiting. If he's being held out for off-court reasons, in my mind that's even worse. Our top recruit is the freshmen (years beyond) that plays the best in practice and in games, not necessarily having a certain ranking or certain amount of stars next to their name. If people let go of Sibley's ranking and judge him based on his playing time or lack thereof, they wouldn't get so worked up over him. There is more focus on him then less ranked players in his class who play more minutes than him. It's has only been 3 games. He may very well be our best talent but is just raw and not ready. Could be a late bloomer. He might be behind the other freshman and others right now. Who knows? We just know he isn't playing right now. He'll develop in his own time and get playing time when he has earned it.
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Post by drquigley on Dec 7, 2020 11:33:19 GMT -5
I'm not nearly as expert as many of you, but: If our top recruit can't get minutes on this team, I'm troubled by what that says about our recruiting. If he's being held out for off-court reasons, in my mind that's even worse. Our top recruit is the freshmen (years beyond) that plays the best in practice and in games, not necessarily having a certain ranking or certain amount of stars next to their name. If people let go of Sibley's ranking and judge him based on his playing time or lack thereof, they wouldn't get so worked up over him. There is more focus on him then less ranked players in his class who play more minutes than him. It's has only been 3 games. He may very well be our best talent but is just raw and not ready. Could be a late bloomer. He might be behind the other freshman and others right now. Who knows? We just know he isn't playing right now. He'll develop in his own time and get playing time when he has earned it. I hear you but on a team as "challenged" as this one even if he's not our "top" recruit he is someone we gave a scholarship to in hopes of him filling a key position on the team if not this year then definitely next year when Pickett leaves. The fact that he can't get any playing time is still a waste of a scholarship and a sad commentary on Ewing's recruiters. Face it, we don't have a large margin for error. We aren't at the point in this program where we just need to fill a few holes every year. We need almost all our recruits to be able to at least take the court in these early OOC games.
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Post by s4hoyas on Dec 7, 2020 11:46:56 GMT -5
Remember that Sibley missed a good deal of his senior year with an injury (broken wrist/forearm I think)...so its not unusual that he may be playing catchup as he works his way back...
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Post by frozenhoya on Dec 7, 2020 11:49:22 GMT -5
The thing is, we have no idea why he isn't playing. Unless you believe that it is impossible for there to be a valid reason, there is no basis for drawing conclusions like "it is a waste of a scholarship" and "a sad commentary on Ewing's recruiters." There is no commentary because we don't know the story.
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Post by the_way on Dec 7, 2020 12:04:09 GMT -5
Our top recruit is the freshmen (years beyond) that plays the best in practice and in games, not necessarily having a certain ranking or certain amount of stars next to their name. If people let go of Sibley's ranking and judge him based on his playing time or lack thereof, they wouldn't get so worked up over him. There is more focus on him then less ranked players in his class who play more minutes than him. It's has only been 3 games. He may very well be our best talent but is just raw and not ready. Could be a late bloomer. He might be behind the other freshman and others right now. Who knows? We just know he isn't playing right now. He'll develop in his own time and get playing time when he has earned it. I hear you but on a team as "challenged" as this one even if he's not our "top" recruit he is someone we gave a scholarship to in hopes of him filling a key position on the team if not this year then definitely next year when Pickett leaves. The fact that he can't get any playing time is still a waste of a scholarship and a sad commentary on Ewing's recruiters. Face it, we don't have a large margin for error. We aren't at the point in this program where we just need to fill a few holes every year. We need almost all our recruits to be able to at least take the court in these early OOC games. He has 4 years of eligibility. He has time to grow. Things take time. Besides, what position does Sibley actually play? SF/PF? What does he do well? What we really need is some scoring and ballhandling and defense. Can Sibley provide anything of those things right now? None of us know. It's not like we have a body of work to go by and we can say "he should be playing". Ewing does see him in practice. Ewing has never let guys rot on the bench when they have ability to contribute. All we know is he has a certain recruiting ranking. That is about it. He isn't a wasted scholarship if he isn't playing right now. He just isn't ready. Some guys take time to develop. Charles Smith. Henry Sims. Markel Starks. Don Reid. Ya-Ya Dia. I could go on....
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Post by calhoya on Dec 7, 2020 12:33:09 GMT -5
It's Hoya PTSD. With everything that has happened to this program in recent years, including the chaos of last year that did not end until McClung's surprise move this summer, who can blame anyone for being paranoid. Not a comment on Ewing, Sibley or anyone playing ahead of him, but when the highest ranked recruit comes in and cannot get a minute of playing time in pre-conference games on a team that is clearly "rebuilding," it is going to make people nervous and fuel the speculation.
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