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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2021 11:34:03 GMT -5
Me personally, I'm just about done with college basketball altogether. I'll see how it plays out next year but I am going to be working on finding something else to do by next season so that I can ween myself off college basketball just like I've done with all the other sports. Might be the time for me to start working out on a more consistent basis and focus more on my health and spirituality.
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Post by MCIGuy on May 17, 2021 11:41:12 GMT -5
Ugh.
Well the good news is that this should be the last year of such rampant transferring of non-graduates nation wide.
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Post by calhoya on May 17, 2021 11:49:24 GMT -5
So does this mean there are no open scholarships left or is Carey not counted and there is now an open scholarship.
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Post by SDHoya on May 17, 2021 11:50:04 GMT -5
On its face, it doesn't make a lot of sense. He really did not show much this season in limited time, but he appears to have the potential to develop into an important player. There appears to be more daylight at the 4 this year with Pickett and Bile gone. You'd think that he would get a lot more time this coming season. On the other hand, I can't imagine another major conference program would promise him a lot of immediate playing time. In any event, although we might have expected Sibley to play a bigger role this season, I'm not sure that anyone was confident he would make the leap, so its hard to say how much of a loss this really is. I'd expect we see a lot of King at the 4--especially if Tim and Ryan are looking good at the 5, and King shows he can defend the 4 and hit some 3s. Past that, there will be opportunity for for Holloway, Clark, and Billingsley to step up. Holloway looked pretty decent in spot minutes at the 4 towards the end of the season--and certainly he was more trusted to play than Sibley.
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Post by Lethal_Interjection on May 17, 2021 12:01:26 GMT -5
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on May 17, 2021 12:07:04 GMT -5
Sibley is really sort of a tweener. He's not in the category of guys like Akinjo, McClung, or Wahab, who were starters, and chose not to play for Georgetown and Ewing anyway. But, he's also not like guys such as Grayson Carter or TJ Berger who likely would have never gotten playing time anyway, even had they stayed. Instead, he's a guy who came in with a good recruiting ranking but didn't really show much in his limited playing time.
Still, I think for all the talk we hear about next year's class (and I do like it), one of my concerns is whether we are going to keep them on the roster for more than a year or two. History would say no, but I hope I am wrong. Simply, if Ewing cannot inspire more kids to play for him for more than a year or two, it will be hard to build a program that wins.
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Post by hoyaguy on May 17, 2021 12:08:21 GMT -5
On its face, it doesn't make a lot of sense. He really did not show much this season in limited time, but he appears to have the potential to develop into an important player. There appears to be more daylight at the 4 this year with Pickett and Bile gone. You'd think that he would get a lot more time this coming season. On the other hand, I can't imagine another major conference program would promise him a lot of immediate playing time. In any event, although we might have expected Sibley to play a bigger role this season, I'm not sure that anyone was confident he would make the leap, so its hard to say how much of a loss this really is. I'd expect we see a lot of King at the 4--especially if Tim and Ryan are looking good at the 5, and King shows he can defend the 4 and hit some 3s. Past that, there will be opportunity for for Holloway, Clark, and Billingsley to step up. Holloway looked pretty decent in spot minutes at the 4 towards the end of the season--and certainly he was more trusted to play than Sibley. I did like Holloway for what use he got esp against nova as he worked well to counter Earl who was really their only major weapon at that point and looked technically sound and not clunky which is solid and would be esp useful in particular situations like against an Earl or extra strong forward
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Post by hoyaguy on May 17, 2021 12:10:36 GMT -5
So does this mean there are no open scholarships left or is Carey not counted and there is now an open scholarship. Apparently we are on 12 as it is still reported that Carey will not count since they might’ve used a loophole of him already being a grad student when he got here or maybe signed something saying that this def was his last year playing ball since he would technically have another year after 21/22
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Post by hoyaboya on May 17, 2021 12:10:45 GMT -5
Ugh. Well the good news is that this should be the last year of such rampant transferring of non-graduates nation wide. I think your second sentence is wishful thinking - this is the new norm.
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Post by wponds on May 17, 2021 12:11:44 GMT -5
He had some ability on defense and a decent stroke, but... At the end of the day, he wasn't moving the needle very much. Not sure I'd "applaud" if he were transferring in right now.
Best of luck to him going forward though
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Post by kbones17 on May 17, 2021 12:17:31 GMT -5
I wonder why he waited so long to enter the portal? It would make sense if he was waiting on PBJ or Pickett’s decision, but both won’t be here. Well, anyway not too surprised given that he didn’t play big minutes, and the free transfer is making it easy to go shopping for another opportunity. Next.
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Post by calhoya on May 17, 2021 12:28:47 GMT -5
If the kid had talent and was worthy of being recruited to the team then this is a loss. If as some suggest the kid did not show much and is not a big loss then that is on the coaching staff for either making a mistake in recruiting or in not developing the kid or being able to retain the kid. Either way cause to be concerned. It is easy to dismiss individual transfers for specific reasons, Akinjo did not fit in with the team, LeBlanc had an off-court issue, McClung wanted to be the focal point and play PG, Wahab was dissatisfied and not feeling that he was getting developed properly and now Sibley. However, at some point even the most rabid fans of the program have to be concerned with the loss of players who were given considerable opportunity here. Only Sibley did not have a featured role on this team.
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Post by daveg023 on May 17, 2021 12:34:35 GMT -5
I wonder why he waited so long to enter the portal? It would make sense if he was waiting on PBJ or Pickett’s decision, but both won’t be here. Well, anyway not too surprised given that he didn’t play big minutes, and the free transfer is making it easy to go shopping for another opportunity. Next. Yea I don’t get this either. If anything he waited to see that minutes WOULD be available and then still announces. Certainly limits his options for his sake you’d think.
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Post by sweetness on May 17, 2021 12:41:16 GMT -5
He didn't earn the minutes and in the context of free transfers it's not all that surprising. I think it's a lot of noise for not that big of a deal.
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Post by CAHoya07 on May 17, 2021 12:57:54 GMT -5
It's a shame, but Sibley did not show us much in his limited playing time this year. It's possible he could develop and live up to the recruiting hype, but I was starting to have doubts. His decision makes perfect sense in my mind. I hope he thrives elsewhere (though not against us), perhaps a place like UW-M would be a good fit for him.
I really hope this is the last of the musical chairs for the season. The squad we have now seems light on experience but huge on potential.
The Wahab transfer still hurts the most, by far. But hopefully we can overcome it, and in particular, Tim can make strides. We don't need him to be Wahab, but we'll need to him to play more under control while still bringing the beef.
And I hope Aminu is truly ready to be a star.
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Post by bostonfan on May 17, 2021 13:07:17 GMT -5
My real surprise is that he waited so long to announce he was transferring. If he was unhappy with the school, the staff or the program, then I could see him announcing soon after the season ended and giving himself time to find a new landing spot. Maybe he already knows where he is going and there is more behind the story about why it is just being announced now.
I thought he had potential and athleticism to grow into a good rotation player. He did not get many opportunities last year and when he did play he was somewhat passive.
I wish him the best where ever he ends up.
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Post by zxhoya on May 17, 2021 13:14:03 GMT -5
Ugh. Well the good news is that this should be the last year of such rampant transferring of non-graduates nation wide. I think your second sentence is wishful thinking - this is the new norm. Surely that was sarcasm.
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Post by rockhoya on May 17, 2021 13:16:54 GMT -5
Not good. Obviously Pat is struggling to find guys who fit and thrive with his style, but this year's kids seem like a better match to the ethos he seems to be going for. Only time will tell, but would have liked to have seen Sibley thrive here. Instead, NEXT! Lol
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Post by rockhoya on May 17, 2021 13:17:33 GMT -5
Says someone with no experience building a program...yawn
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Post by hoya73 on May 17, 2021 13:19:46 GMT -5
If my math is right, and I admit this is confusing, if we DON'T fill this slot, we have 2 open 2022 scholarships, unless someone leaves early from next year's class. And if it's Aminu as a one and done, that would mean he was all that for his one year. There are multiple 2022 signings I'm hoping for, and that we seem to have a realistic shot at, so this could set us up for a good 3 person 2022 recruiting class. Cue the guy who says we shouldn't sign hs players. I know you push that at every opportunity, but we should if they are Nick Smith or Rodney Rice or Tyrell Ward, or Donovan Clingan or Denver Anglin.
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