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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2020 17:20:34 GMT -5
Curious about attendance at DePaul game. Doesn't look like a very big crowd. Would expect more considering how well DePaul is playing. DePaul has a ongoing "customer relations" problem inasmuch it's the largest alumni base of any school in Chicago but their fans are burned out. They essentially ceded what was left of the O'Hare suburban crowd with the move to the Near South Side. From an article linked below at the DePaulia: "The last 15 years have really been tough [as a season ticket holder]...Going to the games where there isn’t a big crowd like there used to be is difficult because there is no energy in the arena like there used to be in the glory days of the team." DePaul also pads the numbers using the trick of paid attendance. Example: Announced attendance is 3,700. Actual scanned tickets is 2,000. They count paid as the 2,000 plus the season ticket holders that didn't show up, and then "buy" the difference in unsold tickets to get to 3,700. Example: Announced attendance for DePaul's 2018-19 non-conference games was 3,905. Yet, according to the link below, "Wintrust saw an average of 1,274 fans scan their tickets for each game. Out of the Blue Demons’ nine home games over that time, five saw fewer than 1,000 spectators." (emphasis added) Chicago newspapers are filing FOA requests to get the real numbers because the arena is publicly owned. depauliaonline.com/38569/sports/feeling-emptier-non-conference-attendance-drops-in-wintrusts-2nd-year/You can't sell crap, which they've been for the better part of 35 years. Who cares? Wouldn't you rather be a DePaul fan for the rest of this season? Obviously just considering wins & losses... |
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jan 4, 2020 17:27:01 GMT -5
You can't sell crap, which they've been for the better part of 35 years. Who cares? Wouldn't you rather be a DePaul fan for the rest of this season? Obviously just considering wins & losses... Not in the least! DePaul will be in the Wednesday bracket like they nearly always are. |
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Jan 4, 2020 17:46:41 GMT -5
We could easily slip into the 5-7 conference wins camp.
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Post by EtomicB on Jan 5, 2020 17:39:50 GMT -5
St.John’s is down two at the half @ Xavier 34-32...
Xavier has turned it over 13 times in the 20 minutes...
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Jan 6, 2020 11:16:57 GMT -5
Was going to say the 2nd best scenario is getting SH with Powell on his 1st game back...all the confidence gained by the role players will be wasted for that game and Powell will likely be really rusty.... That and with Mamushakevli out, we should win this one. Yurt will have to deal with the length of their center. He has been getting by on grabbing boards over the top of smaller foes. That isn't going to happen in BE play. MCI, I hate to say it but so far I have been correct! You kind of dumped all over my premise. Yurt isn't getting the stuff he got against lesser foe. Maybe it was that Mac was out or maybe it was that 7'2 was much harder to handle than 6'7. I just hope he can adjust in the next few. I am one of those who feel like things aren't as bad as they seem, nor were they as good as it seemed during our 6 straight. Maybe SMU, Ok ST and Cuse would be 9/10 teams in the big east. I think that is a real possibility and we need to really crank it up a bunch over our next few games. |
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Post by EtomicB on Jan 6, 2020 16:33:41 GMT -5
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Post by EtomicB on Jan 6, 2020 18:31:51 GMT -5
Georgetown: Sell
The Hoyas (10-5, No. 45 KenPom) strike me as exactly the type of team that will be victimized by playing in a difficult league. They looked like they would have a chance to be an upper-tier Big East team, but that effort took a major hit in December when four players, including two of the top four scorers, abruptly left the program.
Patrick Ewing has done an admirable job managing the fallout and coached his team to some wins in the immediate aftermath, but in the long term, that kind of personnel loss is hard to overcome. Georgetown ranks 96th in the country in defensive efficiency and 221st in turnover percentage. That’s a bad combination.
Georgetown’s best wins are over Texas (neutral), Oklahoma State (road) and Syracuse (home), but it’s possible that none of those will be NCAA Tournament teams. Meanwhile, Georgetown started off 0-2 in the Big East and things are not going to get easier.
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Post by HoyaDr on Jan 6, 2020 18:44:23 GMT -5
Georgetown: Sell
The Hoyas (10-5, No. 45 KenPom) strike me as exactly the type of team that will be victimized by playing in a difficult league. They looked like they would have a chance to be an upper-tier Big East team, but that effort took a major hit in December when four players, including two of the top four scorers, abruptly left the program.
Patrick Ewing has done an admirable job managing the fallout and coached his team to some wins in the immediate aftermath, but in the long term, that kind of personnel loss is hard to overcome. Georgetown ranks 96th in the country in defensive efficiency and 221st in turnover percentage. That’s a bad combination.
Georgetown’s best wins are over Texas (neutral), Oklahoma State (road) and Syracuse (home), but it’s possible that none of those will be NCAA Tournament teams. Meanwhile, Georgetown started off 0-2 in the Big East and things are not going to get easier. I agree with all of this honestly. Our best wins don't seem to be quality anymore and I can't see more than a few wins against the BE with our current roster. It's feeling to be like Ewings first year again. The team is scant next year at the moment. Obviously things can still change and we can regain some of the form we had during the win streak. Starts with SJU at home and some recruiting success. I don't want to keep hearing that we are mid major program anymore. |
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Post by hoyarooter on Jan 6, 2020 20:28:47 GMT -5
Addition by subtraction doesn't seem to be working out so well any more.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Jan 6, 2020 21:16:35 GMT -5
I pray we don’t go 5-13 or worse.
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Post by EtomicB on Jan 7, 2020 12:51:01 GMT -5
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Post by mdtd on Jan 7, 2020 13:07:04 GMT -5
Shows how good every team in the conference is. The bottom of the big 10 really hurts it. Also, shows how much of a must-win tomorrow is.
Also also, Hoyas are now 61 in the NET. This is a day old.
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Post by NCHoya on Jan 7, 2020 14:02:18 GMT -5
Georgetown: Sell
The Hoyas (10-5, No. 45 KenPom) strike me as exactly the type of team that will be victimized by playing in a difficult league. They looked like they would have a chance to be an upper-tier Big East team, but that effort took a major hit in December when four players, including two of the top four scorers, abruptly left the program.
Patrick Ewing has done an admirable job managing the fallout and coached his team to some wins in the immediate aftermath, but in the long term, that kind of personnel loss is hard to overcome. Georgetown ranks 96th in the country in defensive efficiency and 221st in turnover percentage. That’s a bad combination.
Georgetown’s best wins are over Texas (neutral), Oklahoma State (road) and Syracuse (home), but it’s possible that none of those will be NCAA Tournament teams. Meanwhile, Georgetown started off 0-2 in the Big East and things are not going to get easier. I agree with all of this honestly. Our best wins don't seem to be quality anymore and I can't see more than a few wins against the BE with our current roster. It's feeling to be like Ewings first year again. The team is scant next year at the moment. Obviously things can still change and we can regain some of the form we had during the win streak. Starts with SJU at home and some recruiting success. I don't want to keep hearing that we are mid major program anymore. After watching OK St get rocked last night I was thinking this same thing. Our OOC wins are not an indicator of a good team. I still cannot judge the team until I see them play at home tomorrow. I am a big believer that role players play much better at home, so perhaps all is not lost yet. We will find out soon enough. Lose tomorrow by anything more than a possession and my hope for this season will be pretty much gone. |
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Post by EtomicB on Jan 7, 2020 16:45:08 GMT -5
1. East
Favorite: Villanova
Leading contenders: Butler, Seton Hall, Xavier
Sleeper: Creighton. The Blue Jays have one of the nation’s most dangerous offenses and a defense that needs work. Defense travels better in conference play, but there’s always a chance.
Spoiler: Providence. The Friars endured a miserable nonconference season, but everyone in the league recognized there was potential. Now they’ve won three of four.
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Post by daveg023 on Jan 7, 2020 21:01:19 GMT -5
Good to see Providence back to terrible shooting (3-13 from deep) tonight. Sigh.
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Post by daveg023 on Jan 7, 2020 21:11:56 GMT -5
Good to see Providence back to terrible shooting (3-13 from deep) tonight. Sigh. Wow. 4-14. Reeves ties it with 4 secs left. |
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Post by RockawayHoya on Jan 7, 2020 21:35:17 GMT -5
Providence with a 3-0 BE start after a OT road win at Marquette.
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Post by daveg023 on Jan 7, 2020 21:41:46 GMT -5
Creighton up 20-8 on Villanova under 8.
Don’t really want to face them coming off a two game losing streak. But not like it was ever going to be easy playing them.
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Post by mdtd on Jan 7, 2020 21:43:23 GMT -5
Providence with a 3-0 BE start after a OT road win at Marquette. Totally saw that one coming. Just makes sense, doesn't it. |
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Post by DanMcQ on Jan 7, 2020 21:54:33 GMT -5
Crappy coaching again tsk tsk tsk.
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