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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Feb 6, 2022 18:56:47 GMT -5
He seems to have lost his shot. He needs to hit the midrange and occasional three. Driving to the hoop in conference play hasn’t been the answer.
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Post by the_way on Feb 6, 2022 20:09:39 GMT -5
If there is such a thing as a sophomore slump...I think Dante is there. He seems lost out there. Too much dribbling, too indecisive, and his shot looks bad. The rotation on his shot goes side to side. Feel bad for the kid.....he's clearly pressing. The talent around him changed. Even with them, Dante had his times of struggle as a freshmen. Last year, Blair, Pickett, Bile were all seniors and could shoulder the scoring load. Q was good for points in the paint. That production hasn't been replaced this year. His ability to disrupt defenses with his dribble penetration is exceptional. Dante doesn't have the luxury to just find his way as a sophomore. Now, he has to score, distribute and play most of the game. He gets banged up too and trots right back on the court. Now, Dante is aware the team needs to score and so, as you said, he presses. Forces the issue. Then you have Beard who is struggling with playing and confidence. Dante is definitely hitting the ceiling of his talent at this stage of his career. However, he can get better. He can grow.
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Post by iowa80 on Feb 6, 2022 20:17:14 GMT -5
If there is such a thing as a sophomore slump...I think Dante is there. He seems lost out there. Too much dribbling, too indecisive, and his shot looks bad. The rotation on his shot goes side to side. Feel bad for the kid.....he's clearly pressing. The talent around him changed. Even with them, Dante had his times of struggle as a freshmen. Last year, Blair, Pickett, Bile were all seniors and could shoulder the scoring load. Q was good for points in the paint. That production hasn't been replaced this year. His ability to disrupt defenses with his dribble penetration is exceptional. Dante doesn't have the luxury to just find his way as a sophomore. Now, he has to score, distribute and play most of the game. He gets banged up too and trots right back on the court. Now, Dante is aware the team needs to score and so, as you said, he presses. Forces the issue. Then you have Beard who is struggling with playing and confidence. Dante is definitely hitting the ceiling of his talent at this stage of his career. However, he can get better. He can grow. Query me this. While I agree about the dribble penetration (something we do not see in Tyler) how much of that results in points between not finishing and not kicking out for something good? Ultimately, he should be judged on turnover to assist ratio and his shot selection with time on the clock, along with defense (see Bynum). None are particularly good. I like him a lot for his hustle. I think he's got more to give as he matures, and he's easy to root for because he's a warrior. But something's amiss now.
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Post by the_way on Feb 6, 2022 20:41:55 GMT -5
The talent around him changed. Even with them, Dante had his times of struggle as a freshmen. Last year, Blair, Pickett, Bile were all seniors and could shoulder the scoring load. Q was good for points in the paint. That production hasn't been replaced this year. His ability to disrupt defenses with his dribble penetration is exceptional. Dante doesn't have the luxury to just find his way as a sophomore. Now, he has to score, distribute and play most of the game. He gets banged up too and trots right back on the court. Now, Dante is aware the team needs to score and so, as you said, he presses. Forces the issue. Then you have Beard who is struggling with playing and confidence. Dante is definitely hitting the ceiling of his talent at this stage of his career. However, he can get better. He can grow. Query me this. While I agree about the dribble penetration (something we do not see in Tyler) how much of that results in points between not finishing and not kicking out for something good? Ultimately, he should be judged on turnover to assist ratio and his shot selection with time on the clock, along with defense (see Bynum). None are particularly good. I like him a lot for his hustle. I think he's got more to give as he matures, and he's easy to root for because he's a warrior. But something's amiss now. That is part of the development process. He is a sophomore. Not a senior. He isn't a finished product. There is room for growth, in all facets of his game.
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Post by gotin2gu4lunch on Feb 7, 2022 7:27:22 GMT -5
He's being coached poorly in my opinion. I've always thought playing point guard was like pitching in baseball. You can't expect the fastball to always win, without changing speed. And that's what I believe Dante needs. An off-speed pitch. Change his pace, more "herky-jerky" at times. Get into the body of the defense, especially after he gets around the first man. Once he stacks his guy make the defense come to him, use the pump fake to get the bigs in the air. Jump into the defenders, get a little nuance to his game. I don't know how many free throws he's taken. But they should be much higher. He also got to share the ball more, as does Mo. No one plays good defense on this team. They all "open the gate" on any dribble-drive attempt. They do not value the ball at all, with their lazy cross court passes and turnovers from just having the ball grabbed from their hands. All of these are signs of poor coaching.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Feb 7, 2022 9:21:23 GMT -5
His shot is really off this season, so he’s left driving to the basket. Hard to finish against BE frontlines. Even Mohammed is finding it challenging.
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Post by gotin2gu4lunch on Feb 7, 2022 9:36:45 GMT -5
His shot is really off this season, so he’s left driving to the basket. Hard to finish against BE frontlines. Even Mohammed is finding it challenging. And I believe both would be better off, with a jump stop and drawing contract. Getting to the line and putting pressure on the bigs. The both just throw up running shots that either get blocked out of bounds (Dante). Or try to avoid contact and make their shot 3x harder (Mo).
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Post by gunny on Feb 15, 2022 7:54:44 GMT -5
He is killing the offense. If I had a beer for every time he comes down the floor and shoots without a pass, I would be drunk by the time we got to the first 16:00 under time out.
He is in no way a point guard. He is a 2 guard with the body of a 1. He should have been pulled at least a dozen times last night, but Coach will not do it (or at least very little).
So frustrating to watch. And I thought JA was selfish.
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Post by gunny on Feb 15, 2022 8:17:45 GMT -5
Maybe Harris is the player that scouting services said he was (outside of his 4 games in the BET). His career stats are:
FG%: FR - 34.9% vs SO - 35% 3FG%: FR - 26% vs SO - 22.8% FT%: FR - 89.7% vs SO - 73% Ast/TO: FR - 1.39 vs SO - 1.68
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Feb 15, 2022 8:47:52 GMT -5
23 points (yes, I know, on 24 shots), 4 boards, and 2 of our 6 assists. Not exactly what we need from our PG, but a far cry from being the problem on this team. He is competing and doing a lot of good things out there. Wish we could get 2-6 on three and a couple of additional assists - but it is not like other guys were lighting it up.
Keep your head up and keep working, young man.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Feb 15, 2022 9:07:28 GMT -5
Maybe Harris is the player that scouting services said he was (outside of his 4 games in the BET). His career stats are: FG%: FR - 34.9% vs SO - 35% 3FG%: FR - 26% vs SO - 22.8% FT%: FR - 89.7% vs SO - 73% Ast/TO: FR - 1.39 vs SO - 1.68 THIS 100%. Everyone claims diamond in the rough status on guys like Harris & Holloway. They are with a huge BUT. They shouldn't be playing these legit minutes in years 1 or 2. They are year 3 & 4 guys and thus our problems.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Feb 15, 2022 9:30:13 GMT -5
It’s almost impossible to believe that Ewing will be our coach next season. Therefore, Harris will not be our PG. The new coach will bring in his own floor general.
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Post by the_way on Feb 15, 2022 9:34:41 GMT -5
Love the kid. He's got heart.
He just has to play smarter and stop rushing those bad shots.
He also needs to work on his form. His jump shots are literally jump shots. Weird looking form.
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Post by hoyaatheart55 on Feb 15, 2022 9:38:29 GMT -5
Y’all remember our best game of the season against Syracuse? Feels like 10 years ago but here was Dante’s stat line
7 points on 2-6 shooting with 6 assists and 7 rebounds to boot. Would love to see a lot more stat lines like that and a lot less 24 shot nights with 2 assists.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Feb 15, 2022 9:39:45 GMT -5
I agree- and I would love to see the team play like it did against SUcks.
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Post by 78HOYA78 on Feb 15, 2022 9:44:04 GMT -5
Yes - He seems to be fearless and he is very quick. However when he drives we get in big trouble if his shot is blocked or he hits the floor because this team does not get back on defense producing many five on four opportunities. Good points guards have at least a mid-range game in their arsenal.
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Post by Lethal_Interjection on Feb 15, 2022 10:49:10 GMT -5
Dante 23 points on 24 shots/3 TOs/2 ast
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Post by 78HOYA78 on Feb 15, 2022 11:24:40 GMT -5
Thanks for pointing this out. He did have a good night he and Mr. Mohammed. Hopefully, more to come.
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Post by tafkashfsee on Feb 15, 2022 11:25:35 GMT -5
Dante is doing a great job. He has to keep shooting in spite of the fact the shots may not be falling on a regular (soon they will be). He is our floor general. He just needs to know when to dish off on the drives but he must continue looking for his shots and he must continue to attack the basket. I support Dante and Patrick is doing the right thing by sticking with him!
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Post by 617hoya on Feb 15, 2022 11:28:18 GMT -5
Dante is doing a great job. He has to keep shooting in spite of the fact the shots may not be falling on a regular (soon they will be). He is our floor general. He just needs to know when to dish off on the drives but he must continue looking for his shots and he must continue to attack the basket. I support Dante and Patrick is doing the right thing by sticking with him! Thank you for confirming you are, indeed, blind! Your analysis is really top-notch. You have an incredible eye for the game of basketball. Keep it up.
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