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Post by hoyalove4ever on Dec 21, 2020 11:58:36 GMT -5
Feel free to hold your breath.
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Post by the_way on Dec 21, 2020 12:01:49 GMT -5
Development. It takes time.
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Post by hoya9797 on Dec 21, 2020 12:02:21 GMT -5
Feel free to hold your breath. I have little doubt GU will do the wrong thing and that lack of action will kill the basketball program. All we have left is to hope for a miracle.
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Post by hoya9797 on Dec 21, 2020 12:04:47 GMT -5
Development. It takes time. How long before we admit the coach is who he is? Going on four years of college coaching after 15 of NBA coaching. It’s not like this guy is completely inexperienced.
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Post by the_way on Dec 21, 2020 12:19:19 GMT -5
Development. It takes time. How long before we admit the coach is who he is? Going on four years of college coaching after 15 of NBA coaching. It’s not like this guy is completely inexperienced.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Dec 21, 2020 13:05:58 GMT -5
My guess is that we are two seasons away from rising to the middle of the conference and receiving a NCAA bid. Development and retention being key.
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Post by centercourt400s on Dec 21, 2020 13:12:08 GMT -5
So, you think Ewing just makes a couple of chess moves and Dante scores twenty points again? What would those moves have been last night? I don’t know but good coaches figure out ways to counter these kind of moves. Bad coaches, like ours, do the same thing over and over and demonstrate no ability to adjust. To be clear, I’m not claiming to be a good coach but I know a bad one when I see it. Gave this poster the benefit of the doubt for many months but the non-stop boring and ultra-repetitive coach bashing has reached a point where blocking him/her is necessary.
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Post by hoya9797 on Dec 21, 2020 13:12:08 GMT -5
My guess is that we are two seasons away from rising to the middle of the conference and receiving a NCAA bid. Development and retention being key. Including this season or two more after this one? So, 6 or 7 years to become mediocre?
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Dec 21, 2020 13:17:00 GMT -5
I am including this one. We will be young next year and see us finishing between 8th-11th in the league. The year after, perhaps between 6th-9th. Good recruiting could raise our ceiling.
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Post by hoya9797 on Dec 21, 2020 13:41:58 GMT -5
I am including this one. We will be young next year and see us finishing between 8th-11th in the league. The year after, perhaps between 6th-9th. Good recruiting could raise our ceiling. This would be terrible.
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Post by mdtd on Dec 21, 2020 18:41:48 GMT -5
Development. It takes time. You have to be patient with a freshman PG. Especially in this year. I firmly believe they should be graded on a curve and if you can consistently see potential, you are in an excellent spot. And to this point, we have consistently seen potential. Be patient, Dante will make mistakes. But, he has shown enough that every mistake he makes now will be worth it down the line.
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Post by HoyaDr on Dec 21, 2020 18:45:16 GMT -5
I am including this one. We will be young next year and see us finishing between 8th-11th in the league. The year after, perhaps between 6th-9th. Good recruiting could raise our ceiling. Given the recent news, I hope the ceiling just got a bit higher. Hopefully to middle of the pack next year and contention for the BE title the year after depending on who stays and goes. Dante will have an important role in those two years.
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Post by the_way on Dec 21, 2020 19:04:55 GMT -5
Development. It takes time. You have to be patient with a freshman PG. Especially in this year. I firmly believe they should be graded on a curve and if you can consistently see potential, you are in an excellent spot. And to this point, we have consistently seen potential. Be patient, Dante will make mistakes. But, he has shown enough that every mistake he makes now will be worth it down the line. Yeah, that would go for any freshmen or first year player on a new team, really. Being a PG is extra tough with all of the responsibilities. So far so good with Dante. Love the kid's attitude above all else. A good attitude is paramount.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Dec 21, 2020 19:34:01 GMT -5
I've been pretty quiet for a variety of reasons, but I wanted to pop on and say that I really love the potential of Dante. Yes, he's going to make mistakes. He's making some pretty bad decisions at times, and he's got a decent amount to work on across the board.
But I think he's our highest potential point guard since Chris Wright. There was a LOT of love for Akinjo, and he had a lot going for him, but Dante has better quickness and elevates better at the rim than James ever did. That was a huge block on Akinjo's long term game, and Dante doesn't have that issue. Now, he misses that layup like 60% of the time, so he needs to work on that. But he's there, and he's not getting blocked. His handle works with his quickness EXTREMELY well.
He makes bad passes, but he seems to have decent vision. His shot is not consistent, but it's not bad.
Hard work and experience and I think he vaults above Markel, James, a whole slew of guys. Just see a lot of potential.
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Post by seaweed on Dec 21, 2020 20:06:17 GMT -5
You’re welcome. Sadly, I think the situation is such that I’ll be posting my criticism of this coach a lot more. Enjoy! blocked on this site Congratulations! You are the first poster I have ever blocked on this site. Not because I believe Patrick is beyond reproach or that he not deserve some criticism. It's because you are an utter bore and add nothing to the discourse. I encourage others to join the block party so that the only thing left for this individual is to open the window and scream at passersby. He was my first too
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Post by jester on Jan 8, 2021 1:54:34 GMT -5
Akinjo went 0-8 from the fields 0-5 from 3 tonight. Shooting 31% from the field this year. His career high at Georgetown was 36%. Mac is shooting 39%, 31% from 3. I like what I have seen from Harris so far, just needs to make some better decisions. Being a good Guard makes and breaks college teams. I think he will get there, and put up better numbers than our coveted recruits. His mentality seems to be great.
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Post by BeantownHoya on Jan 8, 2021 8:40:16 GMT -5
Akinjo went 0-8 from the fields 0-5 from 3 tonight. Shooting 31% from the field this year. His career high at Georgetown was 36%. Mac is shooting 39%, 31% from 3. I like what I have seen from Harris so far, just needs to make some better decisions. Being a good Guard makes and breaks college teams. I think he will get there, and put up better numbers than our coveted recruits. His mentality seems to be great. I think we are all going to appreciate his 4 (hopefully) years here. He plays hard on the defensive side, shoots well from the FT line, has been decent from 3 and I think his overall shooting % will approve. He is making Freshman mistakes which you can live with. He was not expected to carry this type of load so quickly and with a limited off-season, a shortened OOC schedule you get what you get. The only piece that has troubled me is similar to Akinjowho never seemed to adapt to finishing around the rim Harris has really struggled there and in some key moments but again maybe that comes in time. Lastly and I said this before he can't be on the floor for 30-35+ minutes right now every single night. He is going to fatigue as the season goes and it will impact his play and decision making down the stretch. No we don't have many options. I think Berger deserves 10+ minutes a game (others don't) but either way even if its sliding Blair over somehow you have to give this kid a rest. We all saw what happened down the stretch last year being so shorthanded and now Ewing is still playing guys as if we have no bench to help take some of those minutes and as it applies to Harris I think that will hurt him in the end. He is getting enough experience already that's for sure...we don't need to also drive him into the ground in the process.
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Post by the_way on Jan 8, 2021 11:34:53 GMT -5
Dante is coming along just fine. He is capable and getting pushed to the limit. He is at a stage of development where he can handle this baptism by fire.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jan 8, 2021 11:39:04 GMT -5
Akinjo went 0-8 from the fields 0-5 from 3 tonight. Shooting 31% from the field this year. His career high at Georgetown was 36%. Mac is shooting 39%, 31% from 3. I like what I have seen from Harris so far, just needs to make some better decisions. Being a good Guard makes and breaks college teams. I think he will get there, and put up better numbers than our coveted recruits. His mentality seems to be great. I think we are all going to appreciate his 4 (hopefully) years here. He plays hard on the defensive side, shoots well from the FT line, has been decent from 3 and I think his overall shooting % will approve. He is making Freshman mistakes which you can live with. He was not expected to carry this type of load so quickly and with a limited off-season, a shortened OOC schedule you get what you get. The only piece that has troubled me is similar to Akinjowho never seemed to adapt to finishing around the rim Harris has really struggled there and in some key moments but again maybe that comes in time. Lastly and I said this before he can't be on the floor for 30-35+ minutes right now every single night. He is going to fatigue as the season goes and it will impact his play and decision making down the stretch. No we don't have many options. I think Berger deserves 10+ minutes a game (others don't) but either way even if its sliding Blair over somehow you have to give this kid a rest. We all saw what happened down the stretch last year being so shorthanded and now Ewing is still playing guys as if we have no bench to help take some of those minutes and as it applies to Harris I think that will hurt him in the end. He is getting enough experience already that's for sure...we don't need to also drive him into the ground in the process. The problem with Berger at the point right now is that he has not yet shown the ability to handle the pressure of the Big East. In limited minutes he had bad turnovers against Marquette and Butler, and almost a second against Butler. I do agree with giving him a few more minutes at the point to get a better picture, but right now he is an off guard outside threat.
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Post by s4hoyas on Jan 8, 2021 11:57:00 GMT -5
Gotta give Berger a little more time on the court to allow him to get more comfortable, not just put him in for 5 minutes in the middle of an intense hotly contested road game...he's played at a high level in HS...I think he will acclimate and contribute with a little more court time...same with Kobe and Sibley...btw, against teams without a very tall and productive center, could Holloway play a little small ball 5...he's known to be an excellent rebounder and he can step out and shoot the 3, which opens up the middle more than currently...
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