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Post by HoyaRejuveNation85 on Dec 16, 2020 16:34:05 GMT -5
Like most players, but particularly point guards, it’s in Jalen Harris’ and the team’s best interest for him to take better care of the ball. This team will surprise if it takes care of the ball and plays better defense than it has in recent years. I see (or maybe it’s because I want to see it) inklings that we are a better defensive team or at least have the makings of one. We don’t even have to be good to be much better than we have been in recent years. On the other hand, I am not seeing a team that takes care of the ball. If Jalen wants to keep his minutes or not lose them all to Dante, he should focus on that as Dante appears at least as good or better in other facets of the game as a frosh. We could really use Terrell Allen in this rotation.
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Dec 17, 2020 6:48:36 GMT -5
Considering this season is a major rebuilding effort and unlikely to resemble a normal, full season with Covid, I would support providing Dante as many minutes and opportunities as possible. I’ve seen enough to conclude that there is not much of a drop off from Jalen and in fact Dante might be better in many respects. I hope coach is considering starting Dante and giving him 25 minutes a game. All of the experience and confidence building will only help Dante’s development as we build to the future. Next year, I hope Tyler pushes Dante and there is a healthy competition for minutes between 2 young guards who will be here for 3 years together. Jalen was a bit of an emergency recruit and I think we need to favor the longer term players assuming no material drop-off. I don't think it really matters who starts or not. What's more important is getting the minutes and who finishes the games. Yeah, I hear you but disagree. Building confidence, experience, and running with your Top 5 is very important for a PG. starting, getting 25 minutes+, and closing games (as you say) all helps.
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Post by blueandgray on Dec 17, 2020 18:48:48 GMT -5
Agree RD. Gotta pick a quarterback one way or the other.
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Post by dchoya72 on Dec 17, 2020 20:55:30 GMT -5
Agree RD. Gotta pick a quarterback one way or the other. If that's so, I recommend Dante, Jalen can bring in experience when needed.
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Post by seaweed on Dec 18, 2020 10:53:04 GMT -5
With Jalen going on leave, Dante's role just grew three sizes. This kid has more dog in him than most other guys on our roster, so I am good with him stepping up. Let's hope he's good with it and at it too.
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Post by jctnhoya4ever on Dec 18, 2020 14:06:03 GMT -5
It’s time look out big east.
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Dec 18, 2020 15:38:40 GMT -5
We should be thankful and feeling blessed to have both Dante and Jalen. Both are still growing. Dante is, without a doubt, a more flashy and scrappy player who can knock down shots. Both need to be given more time to showcase what they can do. For me, it is not an either or situation. I wish we had two strong players at each position. Let's appreciate the talent and depth that we have.
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Post by sweetness on Dec 18, 2020 16:15:33 GMT -5
Hand the keys to Dante and let's go!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2020 16:25:08 GMT -5
Love his scoring package but needs to work on being more of a playmaker/facilitator. Chris, and Markel had the same issues coming in so not unusual for a freshman.
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Post by daveg023 on Dec 18, 2020 17:00:07 GMT -5
Finally thought we had some depth at every spot and we’d be able to keep the guys from tiring late. That didn’t last too long. Sorry Dante need you now!
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Post by bostonfan on Dec 21, 2020 8:30:48 GMT -5
I really like Dante and I think he is going to be a good player for the Hoyas for the next few years, but he did look like a freshman for parts of the game last night (probably because he is a freshman!!). No doubt he plays hard and is trying to infuse the team with energy, but St John's did a good job disrupting him and the Hoyas offensive flow and he struggled to adjust. That is expected from a freshman and just shows the need to have some depth, and some experience at the PG position.
I don't think Blair/Carey/ Berger were "bad" trying to be the PG when Dante was out of the game, but you can see it is not a natural position for those guys and that impacts how the offense runs for the entire team while they are in the game at the PG. St John's realized the Hoyas were going to have depth issues at the point with Jalen out and they took advantage of it and the Hoyas did not really have a good response. I hope Jalen and his family are doing Ok and he has the chance to return this season and help the team.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Dec 21, 2020 8:48:26 GMT -5
Welcome to The Show...when you are good, they will gameplan for you and try to take away your pet moves.
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Post by hoya9797 on Dec 21, 2020 10:08:51 GMT -5
Welcome to The Show...when you are good, they will gameplan for you and try to take away your pet moves. And, when you have good coaches, they find ways to combat that. Unfortunately, that’s not the case here so Harris will be on his own trying to figure out what to do going forward.
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Post by hoya73 on Dec 21, 2020 10:48:01 GMT -5
Thank you for your comment. We wouldn't now you hate Ewing if you didn't post it in every thread. Now that we know it, do we care? Not really. You're the one whose self-esteem seems to hinge on being a hater.
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Post by hoya9797 on Dec 21, 2020 11:07:04 GMT -5
Thank you for your comment. We wouldn't now you hate Ewing if you didn't post it in every thread. Now that we know it, do we care? Not really. You're the one whose self-esteem seems to hinge on being a hater. You’re welcome. Sadly, I think the situation is such that I’ll be posting my criticism of this coach a lot more. Enjoy!
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Post by bigskyhoya on Dec 21, 2020 11:29:43 GMT -5
Thank you for your comment. We wouldn't now you hate Ewing if you didn't post it in every thread. Now that we know it, do we care? Not really. You're the one whose self-esteem seems to hinge on being a hater. You’re welcome. Sadly, I think the situation is such that I’ll be posting my criticism of this coach a lot more. Enjoy! blocked on this site Congratulations! You are the first poster I have ever blocked on this site. Not because I believe Patrick is beyond reproach or that he not deserve some criticism. It's because you are an utter bore and add nothing to the discourse. I encourage others to join the block party so that the only thing left for this individual is to open the window and scream at passersby.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Dec 21, 2020 11:32:34 GMT -5
Welcome to The Show...when you are good, they will gameplan for you and try to take away your pet moves. And, when you have good coaches, they find ways to combat that. Unfortunately, that’s not the case here so Harris will be on his own trying to figure out what to do going forward. So, you think Ewing just makes a couple of chess moves and Dante scores twenty points again? What would those moves have been last night?
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Post by hoya9797 on Dec 21, 2020 11:36:02 GMT -5
And, when you have good coaches, they find ways to combat that. Unfortunately, that’s not the case here so Harris will be on his own trying to figure out what to do going forward. So, you think Ewing just makes a couple of chess moves and Dante scores twenty points again? What would those moves have been last night? I don’t know but good coaches figure out ways to counter these kind of moves. Bad coaches, like ours, do the same thing over and over and demonstrate no ability to adjust. To be clear, I’m not claiming to be a good coach but I know a bad one when I see it.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Dec 21, 2020 11:47:00 GMT -5
Well that clears it up.
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Post by hoya9797 on Dec 21, 2020 11:56:07 GMT -5
Yes, the situation here is very clear. The solution is as well.
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