dchoya72
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Post by dchoya72 on Dec 15, 2020 17:34:29 GMT -5
He's playing like a starter and that is great. He and Jalen should share duties. We will need both. Hopefully Jalen will improve and we will have too good point guards. Dante is doing outstanding, and I am sure, better than most anticipated. He is as good as advertised by his Tennessee coach! He read this board before arriving and asked that "we" give him a chance to prove himself, to show how good he is. He is doing quite well and should continue improving. Go Hoyas!
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the_way
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Post by the_way on Dec 15, 2020 17:35:16 GMT -5
Dante Harris should be starting and I will say if he starts he will average 13 to 15 points a game 6-7 assists and 3-4 rebounds and a steal a game.he is just getting started,he should start if Ewing don’t start him I will be wandering about his coaching decisions.it’s clear Dante Harris is better then Jalen Harris no offense to him,Dante is our future at the point ,and Jalen is here this year.get Dante the experience and start him play him 25 minutes and get Jalen Harris around 15 minutes at back up.but Dante is the better player right now. I wish Jalen would tell coach he is ok coming off the bench it would be great.but most players won’t do that.Ewing needs to play Dante Harris as starter and this team can compete in the conference and finish 5-7 range in conference.you don’t and who knows how it will go,Ian sure Dante will play hard anyway if he don’t get to start.but I thought the best players supposed to play the most.I guess we will see. I just want to see this team win and they have a chance with Dante Harris starting and playing.he has intangibles you can’t teach makes winning plays.and is a winner. Go Hoyas. If JT2 taught us anything: It isn't about who starts, but who finishes. Word to our 83-84 team and also Ben Gillery.
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dchoya72
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Post by dchoya72 on Dec 15, 2020 17:38:42 GMT -5
I'm sure you are kidding!!! BTW, I am from DC and know all about the Big Chair! It's been there 100 years.
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Post by SSHoya on Dec 15, 2020 17:50:01 GMT -5
I'm sure you are kidding!!! BTW, I am from DC and know all about the Big Chair! It's been there 100 years. Non-Washingtonians may have no idea about the "big chair" I'm also a native Washingtonian born at Georgetown Hospital and even named after the Chief of Pediatrics there! Back to Dante I have no idea what junior hs or middle school he attended before his family moved to TN.
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dchoya72
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Post by dchoya72 on Dec 15, 2020 19:55:09 GMT -5
I'm sure you are kidding!!! BTW, I am from DC and know all about the Big Chair! It's been there 100 years. Non-Washingtonians may have no idea about the "big chair" I'm also a native Washingtonian born at Georgetown Hospital and even named after the Chief of Pediatrics there! Back to Dante I have no idea what junior hs or middle school he attended before his family moved to TN. So am I, born at Georgetown Hospital! BIg chair Nicholas Avenue. I can't remember the furniture store that was there. It flirts with my brain, then dissappear, LOL!... "Curtis Brothers!!"
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Post by professorhoya on Dec 15, 2020 20:46:40 GMT -5
I’m going to come across as the downer, but I had thought we’d be in a better spot to get a guy who was at least on another peer team’s radar, especially when we only have 2 spots (currently) for this class. This is Year 4 of recruiting, not Year 1. I get ratings aren’t the end all be all, but I don’t see Villanova, Seton Hall, Xavier, Marquette, Providence, etc signing kids of this ilk. To me there are too many people in the business to be that under the radar, and other team’s interest is a good indication of a general consensus about a kid’s ability. Akinjo, Leblanc, and Mac certainly were pleasant surprises, but outside of Mac, they were relatively higher ranked recruits hovering around the Top 100. And in the case of Mac, his ranking was tough to pin down due to his HS competition. Ewing’s other forays into lower ranked kids? Walker, Sodom, Carter, Blair. 3 have left the team, and Blair is the only one who has been a somewhat positive addition but it was Ewing’s first year, he didn’t have the luxury to be overly picky. In Year 4, I wouldn’t think we’d be in a position to be reaching for someone that no one else wants. I guess I just don’t get the “trust Pat” narrative on finding diamonds in the rough. I don’t know if his track record shows he’s done that yet. I hope I’m pleasantly surprised, but I was kinda shocked to see all the optimism on here after seeing this signing.
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Dec 15, 2020 23:29:01 GMT -5
Yes you are correct in what you said in your first sentence.
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daveg023
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Post by daveg023 on Dec 16, 2020 7:34:10 GMT -5
I’m going to come across as the downer, but I had thought we’d be in a better spot to get a guy who was at least on another peer team’s radar, especially when we only have 2 spots (currently) for this class. This is Year 4 of recruiting, not Year 1. I get ratings aren’t the end all be all, but I don’t see Villanova, Seton Hall, Xavier, Marquette, Providence, etc signing kids of this ilk. To me there are too many people in the business to be that under the radar, and other team’s interest is a good indication of a general consensus about a kid’s ability. Akinjo, Leblanc, and Mac certainly were pleasant surprises, but outside of Mac, they were relatively higher ranked recruits hovering around the Top 100. And in the case of Mac, his ranking was tough to pin down due to his HS competition. Ewing’s other forays into lower ranked kids? Walker, Sodom, Carter, Blair. 3 have left the team, and Blair is the only one who has been a somewhat positive addition but it was Ewing’s first year, he didn’t have the luxury to be overly picky. In Year 4, I wouldn’t think we’d be in a position to be reaching for someone that no one else wants. I guess I just don’t get the “trust Pat” narrative on finding diamonds in the rough. I don’t know if his track record shows he’s done that yet. I hope I’m pleasantly surprised, but I was kinda shocked to see all the optimism on here after seeing this signing. You are bringing up a post from 18 months ago to quote me without context, when earlier on this thread I just I was totally wrong in criticizing the optimism regarding Harris? I don’t understand your agenda. Figured we are all on the same page here...but clearly you have some need to create conflict where it doesn’t exist. We can disagree or have opposite opinions, but I’d ask to not post old quotes without any context. Not sure what purpose it serves other than serving some personal agenda I do not I don’t understand nor care to.
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Post by professorhoya on Dec 16, 2020 8:21:59 GMT -5
You are bringing up a post from 18 months ago to quote me without context, when earlier on this thread I just I was totally wrong in criticizing the optimism regarding Harris? I don’t understand your agenda. Figured we are all on the same page here...but clearly you have some need to create conflict where it doesn’t exist. We can disagree or have opposite opinions, but I’d ask to not post old quotes without any context. Not sure what purpose it serves other than serving some personal agenda I do not I don’t understand nor care to. And yet it’s okay for you to bash Ewing or belittle Dante. Doesn’t feel good to be called out or trashed, does it. As DChoyas said Dante read your post before he left for the hilltop. That’s lockerroom material right there and he’s out to prove the non believers wrong.
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daveg023
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Post by daveg023 on Dec 16, 2020 8:31:55 GMT -5
You are bringing up a post from 18 months ago to quote me without context, when earlier on this thread I just I was totally wrong in criticizing the optimism regarding Harris? I don’t understand your agenda. Figured we are all on the same page here...but clearly you have some need to create conflict where it doesn’t exist. We can disagree or have opposite opinions, but I’d ask to not post old quotes without any context. Not sure what purpose it serves other than serving some personal agenda I do not I don’t understand nor care to. And yet it’s okay for you to bash Ewing or belittle Dante. Doesn’t feel good to be called out or trashed, does it. As DChoyas said Dante read your post before he left for the hilltop. That’s lockerroom material right there and he’s out to prove the non believers wrong. I questioned the signing 18 months ago when we signed him and just last week said I was pleasantly surprised how he’s looked. Not sure why that would prompt you to bring up an old post to prove something I was agreeing with unprompted? Especially without any context. I could I understand it maybe even a little had I not commented at all, but the fact I actually came to this thread to say this kid is proving rankings are flawed, makes less sense. The only purpose it serves is to stir the pot. But you do you. If you have time and energy to search through old posts to make points, all the power to you.
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Post by professorhoya on Dec 16, 2020 8:34:42 GMT -5
And yet it’s okay for you to bash Ewing or belittle Dante. Doesn’t feel good to be called out or trashed, does it. As DChoyas said Dante read your post before he left for the hilltop. That’s lockerroom material right there and he’s out to prove the non believers wrong. I questioned the signing 18 months ago when we signed him and just last week said I was pleasantly surprised how he’s looked. Not sure why that would prompt you to bring up an old post to prove something I was agreeing with unprompted? Especially without any context. I could I understand it maybe even a little had I not commented at all, but the fact I actually came to this thread to say this kid is proving rankings are flawed, makes less sense. The only purpose it serves is to stir the pot. But you do you. If you have time and energy to search through old posts to make points, all the power to you. Nope. Didn’t search for your post. Just popped up when I entered this thread the other day
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Post by daveg023 on Dec 16, 2020 8:43:54 GMT -5
I questioned the signing 18 months ago when we signed him and just last week said I was pleasantly surprised how he’s looked. Not sure why that would prompt you to bring up an old post to prove something I was agreeing with unprompted? Especially without any context. I could I understand it maybe even a little had I not commented at all, but the fact I actually came to this thread to say this kid is proving rankings are flawed, makes less sense. The only purpose it serves is to stir the pot. But you do you. If you have time and energy to search through old posts to make points, all the power to you. Nope. Didn’t search for your post. Just popped up when I entered this thread the other day So what was the point of reposting it (without context) when later in the very same thread I was praising Dante and saying how the optimism others had for the signing was justified? I’m not going to get into a message board spat with supposedly fellow fans of the same program. I can respect all opinions and takes but don’t really have any desire to argue over trivial things like this. I only ask if you want to repurpose a post, you at least provide context and recognize the fact my recent post had acknowledged the fact my original take was wrong. If this is how you want to engage me, so be it, I just ask that you at least don’t do it in a way that misrepresents me. We all want the same thing here so personally don’t see the benefit of it, but if it’s important for you, god bless...
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Post by professorhoya on Dec 16, 2020 8:50:16 GMT -5
Nope. Didn’t search for your post. Just popped up when I entered this thread the other day So what was the point of reposting it (without context) when later in the very same thread I was praising Dante and saying how the optimism others had for the signing was justified? I’m not going to get into a message board spat with supposedly fellow fans of the same program. I can respect all opinions and takes but don’t really have any desire to argue over trivial things like this. I only ask if you want to repurpose a post, you at least provide context and recognize the fact my recent post had acknowledged the fact my original take was wrong. If this is how you want to engage me, so be it, I just ask that you at least don’t do it in a way that misrepresents me. We all want the same thing here so personally don’t see the benefit of it, but if it’s important for you, god bless... Ok, let's move on. As long as you are with Ewing/The Thompsons and the program we are cool
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Post by daveg023 on Dec 16, 2020 8:56:18 GMT -5
So what was the point of reposting it (without context) when later in the very same thread I was praising Dante and saying how the optimism others had for the signing was justified? I’m not going to get into a message board spat with supposedly fellow fans of the same program. I can respect all opinions and takes but don’t really have any desire to argue over trivial things like this. I only ask if you want to repurpose a post, you at least provide context and recognize the fact my recent post had acknowledged the fact my original take was wrong. If this is how you want to engage me, so be it, I just ask that you at least don’t do it in a way that misrepresents me. We all want the same thing here so personally don’t see the benefit of it, but if it’s important for you, god bless... Ok, let's move on. As long as you are with Ewing/The Thompsons and the program we are cool Sounds good. I am for everyone that is part of Georgetown basketball. We all want the same thing here despite difference of opinions at times or varying levels of pessimism / optimism. At the end of the day it’s all coming from a place of wanting to see this team succeed. Hoya Saxa!
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Dec 16, 2020 10:04:30 GMT -5
Considering this season is a major rebuilding effort and unlikely to resemble a normal, full season with Covid, I would support providing Dante as many minutes and opportunities as possible. I’ve seen enough to conclude that there is not much of a drop off from Jalen and in fact Dante might be better in many respects.
I hope coach is considering starting Dante and giving him 25 minutes a game. All of the experience and confidence building will only help Dante’s development as we build to the future.
Next year, I hope Tyler pushes Dante and there is a healthy competition for minutes between 2 young guards who will be here for 3 years together.
Jalen was a bit of an emergency recruit and I think we need to favor the longer term players assuming no material drop-off.
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Post by professorhoya on Dec 16, 2020 12:08:18 GMT -5
Considering this season is a major rebuilding effort and unlikely to resemble a normal, full season with Covid, I would support providing Dante as many minutes and opportunities as possible. I’ve seen enough to conclude that there is not much of a drop off from Jalen and in fact Dante might be better in many respects. I hope coach is considering starting Dante and giving him 25 minutes a game. All of the experience and confidence building will only help Dante’s development as we build to the future. Next year, I hope Tyler pushes Dante and there is a healthy competition for minutes between 2 young guards who will be here for 3 years together. Jalen was a bit of an emergency recruit and I think we need to favor the longer term players assuming no material drop-off. I don't think it really matters who starts or not. What's more important is getting the minutes and who finishes the games.
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Post by prhoya on Dec 16, 2020 12:18:18 GMT -5
Blair cannot be run to the ground like the end of last year. From February on, he averaged close to 39 mpg and 30% 3P. We need a fresh Blair in February and he’s averaging 38 mpg this year. We need all the help we can get from Dante, Jalen and the rest of the full roster to keep player averages to no more than 35 mpg.
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Post by AvantGuardHoya on Dec 16, 2020 12:28:50 GMT -5
You're sure about that pal? I've never seen him a day in my life! What hospital was in born? I would always see him dribbling around the "big chair" Shoot, 757, I 'member him dribblin' ON it when he was an infant!
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Dec 16, 2020 14:08:40 GMT -5
J. Harris and Bile will need to play this season. They just need to play under control and smarter. Bile looks like he’s auditioning for the NBA by launching every time he touches the ball.
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Post by jwp91 on Dec 16, 2020 15:03:57 GMT -5
J. Harris and Bile will need to play this season. They just need to play under control and smarter. Bile looks like he’s auditioning for the NBA by launching every time he touches the ball. With the news that Trey Mourning has signed an NBA contract, apparently Bile’s strategy has merit.
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