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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Dec 15, 2020 6:10:18 GMT -5
Happy not to finish last in the league. Ceiling may be 8th place, but who knows. Let’s see how we play outside McDonough.
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Post by blueandgray on Dec 15, 2020 7:58:31 GMT -5
A lot of assumptions. We are going to need both guys. This!!
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Post by guru on Dec 15, 2020 9:11:06 GMT -5
Happy not to finish last in the league. Ceiling may be 8th place, but who knows. Let’s see how we play outside McDonough. Agree - we are not a particularly good team, but it looks like we have some fight in us. I think we can surpass the admittedly low bar that has been set for us. Also, if DePaul never even plays a game they get last place by default, correct? Looking for silver linings here...
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Post by bostonfan on Dec 15, 2020 9:47:05 GMT -5
A lot of assumptions. We are going to need both guys. This!! I am as happy as anyone with the way Dante has developed in the last few games and I think he deserves additional playing time, but the team is going to need Jalen Harris to pitch in and be a stabilizing force as the season wears on. Jalen has had some struggles this season with turnovers, but he has done a decent job racking up assets and I think he is more physically ready for the long season than Dante is at this point. More closely defining the role the team needs from Jalen will go a long way to him having some success. I completely expect Dante to have more impressive games this season, but he is a freshman and it would be unfair to expect to him to play consistently at the level he played the other night. He will have more great games this season, but he may thrown in a few clunkers also and when he does the team will need Jalen to step in and help.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2020 10:37:12 GMT -5
Where was Dante born? Can somebody research that for me please? Thank you!
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Post by SSHoya on Dec 15, 2020 10:58:57 GMT -5
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Post by CTHoya08 on Dec 15, 2020 11:03:34 GMT -5
Happy not to finish last in the league. Ceiling may be 8th place, but who knows. Let’s see how we play outside McDonough. Agree - we are not a particularly good team, but it looks like we have some fight in us. I think we can surpass the admittedly low bar that has been set for us. Also, if DePaul never even plays a game they get last place by default, correct? Looking for silver linings here... Heck, if Xavier keeps going to crowded bars, they might not play games either. We could finish ninth in an eleven-team conference and still truly be in last place.
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Post by MCIGuy on Dec 15, 2020 11:08:53 GMT -5
Not a particularly good team? We gave West Virginia a tough contest and had our best half of basketball against Villavova. We haven't proven we are going to win a lot of games but we have proven we can compete and be in a position to win ANY game so long as we remain mentally tough and smart. And unlike last season we have a full roster which should help better our results this time around....hopefully.
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Post by guru on Dec 15, 2020 11:50:52 GMT -5
Not a particularly good team? We gave West Virginia a tough contest and had our best half of basketball against Villavova. We haven't proven we are going to win a lot of games but we have proven we can compete and be in a position to win ANY game so long as we remain mentally tough and smart. And unlike last season we have a full roster which should help better our results this time around....hopefully. I think categorizing this team as not "particularly good" is fair at this point. Villanova was a nice first half, but then we lost by 26 in the second half. I think we have some improving to do before I would consider us a good team. We have spunk though.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2020 12:00:44 GMT -5
Not a particularly good team? We gave West Virginia a tough contest and had our best half of basketball against Villavova. We haven't proven we are going to win a lot of games but we have proven we can compete and be in a position to win ANY game so long as we remain mentally tough and smart. And unlike last season we have a full roster which should help better our results this time around....hopefully. I think categorizing this team as not "particularly good" is fair at this point. Villanova was a nice first half, but then we lost by 26 in the second half. I think we have some improving to do before I would consider us a good team. We have spunk though. Looking to the future, the good news is that the players who turned timid in the second half (Nova) were the upperclassman. The freshman and Wahab just play. I think if Kobe was healthy and takes Bile’s minutes in the second half-we go down to the wire with them. Back to Dante, just keep playing in control; watching the ball go through the hoop will definitely help slow the game down for him (this is a big jump in comp compared to last year). Take care of the ball, set up your shooters (drive and kicks/dumps), hit your open shots...
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Post by paranoia2 on Dec 15, 2020 12:01:01 GMT -5
Hard to categorize this team at all right now. If Patrick plays the right players, rests Blair a little in the first half of games, & Dante is as good as he looked against St. John’s this team could get wins.
1) Wahab surrounded by Blair, Pickett, Carey and Dante (Berger too) is pretty hard to defend. Some team will not be able to handle Wahab without doubling him.
2) Sitting guys who create NEGATIVE basketball plays & situations can do wonders for a team. Some players just aren’t that good.
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Post by johnnysnowplow on Dec 15, 2020 13:27:07 GMT -5
Here’s a less quantitative comparison: When Jalen is on the floor: “please don’t do anything dumb. Please don’t do anything dumb. Please don’t do anything dumb.” (Like travel at mid court) When Dante is on the floor: “get that kid the ball and he’ll make something happen” Plus Jalen Harris is the worst defensive guard by a country mile on a team that employs Jahvon Blair. That’s saying something. Considering his length, quickness, and athleticism, I can only assume that he’s so absurdly bad on defense because he doesn’t try that hard and/or doesn’t care. And that’s just not acceptable. We're getting at a similar desired outcome, but we've already got a coach who prefers to throw out the numbers and goes off of "just what he feels," so I'll stick with the numbers to make my point. I agree with you on that. Major concern going forward.
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Post by rhw485 on Dec 15, 2020 14:05:08 GMT -5
I am as happy as anyone with the way Dante has developed in the last few games and I think he deserves additional playing time, but the team is going to need Jalen Harris to pitch in and be a stabilizing force as the season wears on. Jalen has had some struggles this season with turnovers, but he has done a decent job racking up assets and I think he is more physically ready for the long season than Dante is at this point. More closely defining the role the team needs from Jalen will go a long way to him having some success. I completely expect Dante to have more impressive games this season, but he is a freshman and it would be unfair to expect to him to play consistently at the level he played the other night. He will have more great games this season, but he may thrown in a few clunkers also and when he does the team will need Jalen to step in and help. And this really is the dilemma Ewing is going to face and the tight rope he's going to have to walk. Yes, there will definitely be situations where Dante scuttles and it will make sense for Jalen to come in. And I fully understand prioritizing winning this year. But there needs to be a skew towards the future in situations where their value in the present is so close. I'm not advocating playing Holloway over Pickett in the name of development. Pickett and Blair have earned every minute they get this year. But I think our starting point should be that Dante gets first crack, Jalen spells him, and only if Dante is truly scuttling do you go to Jalen for extended minutes. Is that 25 Dante / 15 Jalen? I'd personally rather see if Carey or Berger (guys who should be here next season) can fill that gap instead but I know we're not sure they can handle it. Only one way to find out though. I don't think that's very far away from what you're saying, but we'll still have to see what type of split Ewing implements. Another complication is how do you stagger the lineups? Clearly Dante has a better chance of creating his own offense. If Dante is starting, is Jalen going to run with the bench units that struggle to score already w Bile and Tim I? Should Dante be overlapping w Berger / Clark / Sibley when possible so they get to play together?
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Dec 15, 2020 14:11:34 GMT -5
Happy not to finish last in the league. Ceiling may be 8th place, but who knows. Let’s see how we play outside McDonough. Agree - we are not a particularly good team, but it looks like we have some fight in us. I think we can surpass the admittedly low bar that has been set for us. Also, if DePaul never even plays a game they get last place by default, correct? Looking for silver linings here... We are a more than good team--even great team--in the making! The potential is there. As a wise teacher once said, let him who has eyes open them and see!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2020 14:15:55 GMT -5
You're sure about that pal? I've never seen him a day in my life! What hospital was in born?
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Post by SSHoya on Dec 15, 2020 14:40:58 GMT -5
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Post by 757hoyafan on Dec 15, 2020 16:30:59 GMT -5
You're sure about that pal? I've never seen him a day in my life! What hospital was in born? Lol
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Post by 757hoyafan on Dec 15, 2020 16:32:14 GMT -5
You're sure about that pal? I've never seen him a day in my life! What hospital was in born? I would always see him dribbling around the "big chair"
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Post by SSHoya on Dec 15, 2020 16:44:04 GMT -5
You're sure about that pal? I've never seen him a day in my life! What hospital was in born? I would always see him dribbling around the "big chair" For you non-Washingtonians who have no idea about the "big chair" . . . en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chair_(sculpture)
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Post by jctnhoya4ever on Dec 15, 2020 16:50:30 GMT -5
Dante Harris should be starting and I will say if he starts he will average 13 to 15 points a game 6-7 assists and 3-4 rebounds and a steal a game.he is just getting started,he should start if Ewing don’t start him I will be wandering about his coaching decisions.it’s clear Dante Harris is better then Jalen Harris no offense to him,Dante is our future at the point ,and Jalen is here this year.get Dante the experience and start him play him 25 minutes and get Jalen Harris around 15 minutes at back up.but Dante is the better player right now. I wish Jalen would tell coach he is ok coming off the bench it would be great.but most players won’t do that.Ewing needs to play Dante Harris as starter and this team can compete in the conference and finish 5-7 range in conference.you don’t and who knows how it will go,Ian sure Dante will play hard anyway if he don’t get to start.but I thought the best players supposed to play the most.I guess we will see. I just want to see this team win and they have a chance with Dante Harris starting and playing.he has intangibles you can’t teach makes winning plays.and is a winner. Go Hoyas.
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