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Post by hoyaguy on Dec 29, 2020 22:18:26 GMT -5
Honestly I think this should just be a relatively quiet thread because we don’t really want someone to get pushed out and Aminu does not even have a spot yet so until we hear that Gtown is still in the running at some point in the near future we should dial it back a tad. Only then it can be assumed that the coaches know something we don’t so the convo can really continue without making a million hypotheticals that may insult one player or another. Just a thought and obviously I would love for Chet to come but no need to get too greedy with such a solid class. Dial it back? HoyaTalk?? Newbies🙄 Honestly a pipe dream I know 😂
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Post by LCPolo18 on Dec 29, 2020 23:34:01 GMT -5
The guy that just so happened to leave a few days after we needed a scholarship for Gardner and Allen. Technically, if Carter was run off, he wouldn’t have had to sit out the 19-20 season because he would have gotten a transfer waiver.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Dec 30, 2020 10:15:26 GMT -5
Back to Chet - ESPN projects him as #1 pick in the 2020 NBA draft.
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Post by professorhoya on Dec 30, 2020 10:30:59 GMT -5
7-6 wingspan. I wonder if he's still growing. May top out at 7-3 to 7-6.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2020 13:13:03 GMT -5
First of all, I can't necessarily prove that what I am saying is true. I can only say that I've heard from good authority (someone who was once a part of the old program) that Big John got rid of players. You know that good old "graduation rate" that the media used to taunt about Big Coach? Well I heard that Big Coach used to kick kids out who he felt was not going to graduate from Georgetown. Thus is the reason why the high graduation rate. That's not accurate and a disservice to Thompson's legacy. Yes, players left the program. Some after four semesters, some after two. Then there's the story of Joe Holmes, the freshman who decided he wasn't going to go to class and when he told that to Thompson, Coach got him a plane ticket and told him to pack his bags. Holmes never played a game. Those that left early usually fell into thee categories: 1) someone who didn't put in the effort academically, 2) someone not getting the playing time they thought they deserved, or 3) someone who didn't get along with Thompson and figured they could do better elsewhere. But Thompson didn't (and couldn't) kick anyone out of school, and that's something we forget. That kid is an enrolled student and can, with financial aid, stay as long as he stays eligible to graduate, but a lot saw playing basketball as a better option than sitting in classes and hanging around at Yates, so they found other schools. Few took the advice of Jerrelle Benimon, the JT III era player who wanted more playing time, transferred, and built a nice career since. "If you're not positive your game will actually elevate going somewhere else," he said, "then I don't think it's worth leaving a school like Georgetown, because the academics are so good." The graduation rate often cited was a reference to four year players but it was a little faulty. www.hoyabasketball.com/features/the_graduates.htm You just proved my point.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Dec 30, 2020 13:41:51 GMT -5
You just proved my point. Actually, I didn't. The period 1972-84 had very few transfers, just three: Cheese Holloway, Gary Wilson, and Ray Knight. Don't know Holloway's story but Wilson and Knight were suddenly behind two centers each and weren't going to get playing time. Knight ended up starting at Providence and was a 5th round NBA draft pick. They weren't kicked out to maintain a graduation rate. The one I have no information on is Mike Stokes, one of the six original Thompson recruits. He gets only a passing reference in John Thompson's autobiography as the third leading scorer in 1972-73 but I can't find any whereabouts after he quit school in 1973.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2020 13:44:40 GMT -5
You just proved my point. Actually, I didn't. The period 1972-84 had very few transfers, just three: Cheese Holloway, Gary Wilson, and Ray Knight. Don't know Holloway's story but Wilson and Knight were suddenly behind two centers each and weren't going to get playing time. Knight ended up starting at Providence and was a 5th round NBA draft pick. They weren't kicked out to maintain a graduation rate. The one I have no information on is Mike Stokes, one of the six original Thompson recruits. He gets only a passing reference in John Thompson's autobiography as the third leading scorer in 1972-73 but I can't find any whereabouts after he quit school in 1973. Unfortunately, I don't know any of those guys you named and I've never heard of them.
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Post by hoyainla on Dec 30, 2020 16:59:06 GMT -5
I wasn't advocating for Carter. I was just pointing out that things are no different here than they are at every other school no matter how much some people on here hope/wish things were different. Except of course that you don't know what actually took place. Is it possible? Sure. But you are just making a presumption. Like most things that I bring up here I know more than most of my detractors. Some is hearsay so potentially I could be getting tangled info but I don't just pull stuff out of the air for message board clout. Then in such cases when say a crazy uncle goes off people act shocked that such a thing was happening. You can either choose to believe it or not. Doesn't effect me any. I just think it's hilarious when people act like every thing going on is always on the up and up since it's Georgetown and nothing bad could happen at a school they attended or root for.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Dec 30, 2020 18:23:01 GMT -5
Except of course that you don't know what actually took place. Is it possible? Sure. But you are just making a presumption. Like most things that I bring up here I know more than most of my detractors. Some is hearsay so potentially I could be getting tangled info but I don't just pull stuff out of the air for message board clout. Then in such cases when say a crazy uncle goes off people act shocked that such a thing was happening. You can either choose to believe it or not. Doesn't effect me any. I just think it's hilarious when people act like every thing going on is always on the up and up since it's Georgetown and nothing bad could happen at a school they attended or root for. Fair enough. And I certainly am not one who believes our program is the perfect example of college Sports.
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Dec 30, 2020 18:36:24 GMT -5
All things considered, we do a pretty good job. Unlike so many college basketball programs, education is still included in the discussion. Having said that, of course, the objective is still to win. Truth, honesty, and winning don’t have to be mutually exclusive.
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Post by hsaxon on Jan 3, 2021 21:18:58 GMT -5
You just proved my point. Actually, I didn't. The period 1972-84 had very few transfers, just three: Cheese Holloway, Gary Wilson, and Ray Knight. Don't know Holloway's story but Wilson and Knight were suddenly behind two centers each and weren't going to get playing time. Knight ended up starting at Providence and was a 5th round NBA draft pick. They weren't kicked out to maintain a graduation rate. The one I have no information on is Mike Stokes, one of the six original Thompson recruits. He gets only a passing reference in John Thompson's autobiography as the third leading scorer in 1972-73 but I can't find any whereabouts after he quit school in 1973. Mike Stokes worked in Washington restaurants for many years. His father was a Mathematics Professor at Georgetown.
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Post by hoyaboya on Jan 7, 2021 18:32:17 GMT -5
I’m not close to the only one who has been saying Gonzaga was the frontrunner to land five-star center Chet Holmgren. Things have been tending that direction for months, so i figure now is as good a time as ever to make things official with a FutureCast. Holmgren, who is set to challenge for the top spot when the 2021 prospect rankings refresh next week, took an official visit to Spokane back in October of last year. That trip seemed to cement the Zags’ lead. These days, Mark Few’s program looks like the best team in the country and are trending toward having freshman Jalen Suggs selected in the top three of next year’s NBA Draft. Things are good in Spokane and, by all accounts, poised to get a lot better when the 7-foot Holmgren signs his letter of intent. basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/florida-man-a-futurecast-for-holmgren-gators-future-brandon-murray
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Post by hoyaboya on Jan 25, 2021 13:40:07 GMT -5
Chet Holmgren has been trending towards Gonzaga for a while now. It's hard to see any of the other schools beating it out, especially with how well it is playing this season. Hunter Sallis seems a little more open, but I'd still lean towards Gonzaga winning out in that recruiting battle as well, giving them one of the top recruiting classes in the country and a perfect replacement for Jalen Suggs. basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/fact-or-fiction-ncaa-tourney-gonzaga-duke-unc
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Post by Elvado on Jan 25, 2021 20:24:31 GMT -5
Actually, I didn't. The period 1972-84 had very few transfers, just three: Cheese Holloway, Gary Wilson, and Ray Knight. Don't know Holloway's story but Wilson and Knight were suddenly behind two centers each and weren't going to get playing time. Knight ended up starting at Providence and was a 5th round NBA draft pick. They weren't kicked out to maintain a graduation rate. The one I have no information on is Mike Stokes, one of the six original Thompson recruits. He gets only a passing reference in John Thompson's autobiography as the third leading scorer in 1972-73 but I can't find any whereabouts after he quit school in 1973. Mike Stokes worked in Washington restaurants for many years. His father was a Mathematics Professor at Georgetown. Didn’t Anthony Jones, Vadi Smith and David Dunn all transfer after the ‘83 season?
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jan 25, 2021 20:44:29 GMT -5
Didn’t Anthony Jones, Vadi Smith and David Dunn all transfer after the ‘83 season? Correct--I should have said 1983. Jones to UNLV, Dunn to Alabama, and Vadi to Paul Quinn College, about the last place anyone would transfer to.
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Post by Elvado on Jan 25, 2021 20:59:53 GMT -5
Didn’t Anthony Jones, Vadi Smith and David Dunn all transfer after the ‘83 season? Correct--I should have said 1983. Jones to UNLV, Dunn to Alabama, and Vadi to Paul Quinn College, about the last place anyone would transfer to. Dunn to Georgia, no?
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Post by DanMcQ on Feb 13, 2021 17:15:37 GMT -5
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Post by professorhoya on Feb 13, 2021 21:58:01 GMT -5
I think the chances are really slim to land him. I think there's a good chance he goes G League Select.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 20, 2021 21:50:55 GMT -5
Maybe Chet is holding off to see if the improved Hoyas can keep building momentum??😁🤔
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Post by hoyaboya on Feb 24, 2021 13:17:51 GMT -5
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