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Post by ccoven on Apr 21, 2019 7:50:38 GMT -5
My first college basketball game was on Birmingham's south side watching Mike Anderson's UAB squad take on St. Louis. UAB won by 20. Those days, they were called the "fastest 40 minutes in basketball" back then, were some of my favorite memories. Anderson is a very solid coach. I think he will succeed at St. John's. Look forward to seeing him now in Big East play. Was that back when UAB had a backcourt named “Peanut Butter & Jelly” or is my old man memory misremembering? That backcourt of Peanut Butter and Jelly was S Alabama I believe.
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Post by SirSaxa on Apr 21, 2019 8:59:55 GMT -5
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Post by kettlehill on Apr 21, 2019 10:11:36 GMT -5
Justin Simon taking pics too? Interesting... If all of the kids come back, including Simon, this team could be more than middle of the pack. Ponds is a terrific talent, but he seemed to lose himself periodically and sometimes when he was most needed. Addition by subtraction. With a real coach in Anderson, they will be a tourney team IMHO. Any of the other names mentioned, including Hurley, would have resulted in an awful 2019-20 season simply because doubtful they could get all the kids back. There is some real talent there. St Johns might have really lucked out......
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2019 10:42:49 GMT -5
If Anderson gets everyone to stay/come back, they're a 6-8th level team with good coaching. With Mullin, they were probably bottom 2.
But I don't think he's getting them all back.
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Post by daveg023 on Apr 21, 2019 10:57:53 GMT -5
If Anderson gets everyone to stay/come back, they're a 6-8th level team with good coaching. With Mullin, they were probably bottom 2. But I don't think he's getting them all back. I think 8th would be selling them a little short. Simon, Heron, and Figueroa with the incoming transfers really is not a bad team when you factor in they will also be better coached. I think they’d hover around .500 in the conference and be in a similar boat with Creighton, Xavier, PC, Marquette (not sure how to handicap them now), and even us. I expect Villanova and Seton Hall to be ahead of everyone else, while I think DePaul and Butler will be at the bottom. 3rd-8th may look very similar to this past year with everyone converging around .500 again. The difference hopefully is .500 in conference will result in better metrics than it did this last year.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2019 11:05:59 GMT -5
Who's their pg?
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Post by daveg023 on Apr 21, 2019 11:13:39 GMT -5
Fair but it’s not like Ponds was a traditional PG for them anyway. I expect them to snag a transfer with the attractive opportunity they can present.
Any word if Mack would consider them again with Anderson now in place?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2019 11:23:16 GMT -5
Fair but it’s not like Ponds was a traditional PG for them anyway. I expect them to snag a transfer with the attractive opportunity they can present. Any word if Mack would consider them again with Anderson now in place? He wasn't, but he was their only reliable ball handler and finished 2nd in the BE in assists. I'm sure Mike is working, but they have a lot of holes. No pg, and no bench as of right now. Maybe they can have Simon run the point, but that doesn't seem like an ideal situation.
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Post by mdtd on Apr 21, 2019 11:39:32 GMT -5
What's going to be the role of David Caraher? He could be a key piece for them, one people are surely forgetting. Dude averaged 16ppg at Houston Baptist and could be a key piece for them. He's a player that will need to perform if St. John's is to get out of the bottom of the BE IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2019 11:43:00 GMT -5
What's going to be the role of David Caraher? He could be a key piece for them, one people are surely forgetting. Dude averaged 16ppg at Houston Baptist and could be a key piece for them. He's a player that will need to perform if St. John's is to get out of the bottom of the BE IMO. Wing or undersized 4..
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Post by kettlehill on Apr 21, 2019 15:46:37 GMT -5
I am just glad that, evidently, St. John’s is not going to be an embarrassment to the Big East. Looked that way for a few days.....
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Post by vamosalaplaya on Apr 21, 2019 19:09:53 GMT -5
Anderson was a solid hire. Never had a losing season, and a track record of taking three teams to NCAAs and an attractive style of play. You know St Johns will be competitive now. An upgrade on Mullin. I'd take Anderson over Cluess. Cluess has had a great track record at Iona and mastered the formula of bringing kids back to NY who went away originally, didn't play at power school, and want to return home - he has that transfer formula down completely and it, along with a running style and good coaching he gets wins in the MAAC - but that's not going to work in a Power conference. Cluess is good to be clear but there were risks that aren't presence with Anderson.
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Post by bornhoya on Apr 21, 2019 21:57:34 GMT -5
Anderson needs 8 to 10 halfway legit players for his system to work
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2019 8:51:41 GMT -5
Late in March, I couldn't believe it when I learned that Mike Anderson had been fired at Arkansas. He had taken a program in bad shape and led them to the postseason in five (3 NCAA Tourneys) of the last six years. He had recruited well enough and even with a bit of a down 2018-19 campaign, he looked to be on the way to the consistent success he experienced at Missouri and UAB. At the very least, the man deserved another year.
I was just as surprised late last week when a college assistant called me to ask what I knew about Anderson and if he would be good to work for. I said yes, I think he'd be good to work for, but he's currently out of a job. It was then the coach told me that Anderson -- seemingly out of nowhere -- was going to be the guy to replace Chris Mullin at St. John's and 24 hours later, the deal was done.
Look, there are some fair questions to ask about Anderson getting the job. Can he connect in New York? How did the search get to him? I get it. I'm kind of curious to find out myself.
What I don't need to find out, though, is whether or not Anderson can win. I've seen more than enough of Anderson to know that his 65 percent career winning percentage and nine NCAA Tournament appearances over the course of three stops are for real. It's also worth mentioning that he took over a difficult situation at each program. For those reasons, I hope he gets a fair shake from the local fans and media who have been critical of his hire.
Yes, there's a pretty big rebuild ahead of Anderson and yes he's going to be doing so in a city and region where he hasn't recruited heavily. But, I would hope he gets the fair chance he deserves because Anderson has proven that he is a winner capable of turning a bad situation into a good one.
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Post by Lethal_Interjection on Apr 22, 2019 9:18:36 GMT -5
Anderson needs 8 to 10 halfway legit players for his system to work Of course any coach would need to get specified players to fit into their system. He'll need some time to make that come to work, I'm thinking about 2 recruiting windows to really see the impact on the court.
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Post by BigmanU on Apr 22, 2019 14:41:17 GMT -5
With Moore, Weems, Jacobs, Reed & Butz. They are building a solid foundation to build on.
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Post by mdtd on Apr 22, 2019 14:52:48 GMT -5
With Moore, Weems, Jacobs, Reed & Butz. They are building a solid foundation to build on. That team is going to be scary. Add Gordon and that team is going to be good. I think Depaul is fully capable of making an NCAA run next year. I can't believe I'm saying that, but I am. They are going to be good.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Apr 22, 2019 14:54:56 GMT -5
With Moore, Weems, Jacobs, Reed & Butz. They are building a solid foundation to build on. I doubt Moore will ever play with Reed! Reed will probably be a draft pick after next season...
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