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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Apr 18, 2019 16:05:18 GMT -5
Ironically, given what's happened, St. John's could do a lot worse. But, St. John's would never hire a Thompson. Why? IMO, and from his behavior here, JT3 wouldn’t expose himself to the scrutiny of the NYC market. He couldn’t get away with not answering questions. True, the NYC market does have a lot of scrutiny. I really don't understand why anybody would expose themselves to this at the moment. It's clearly a mess, and while I am sure the job appeals to some people, they're doing a good job of turning off good candidates thus far. For the good of the conference, I hope they can figure something out.
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Post by EtomicB on Apr 18, 2019 16:15:06 GMT -5
When did Repole admit that there was a falling out over the hiring of Mullin? My fault. I should have stated it was reported that it was well known that Repole and the president of the university had a falling out... This I agree with and it's why I think the blame belongs on the president as much or more than anyone... If Cragg & Repole worked together to get Mullin out so they could get Hurley, why isn't Hurley the coach? With Repole in the picture, money shouldn't be an issue, right? So who do you think gummed up the negotiations?
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Post by seaweed on Apr 18, 2019 16:24:14 GMT -5
Pretty sure PR here is Puerto Rico, not Public Relations. Actually certain, since the last time I was in San Juan I went club hopping with PR and it was good. Twas just a joke but thank you for the additional info I'm here to help, except when I am there to drink and dance. Seriously though, if you find yourself in PR, reach out to PR and get shown the town in style.
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Post by hoyas315 on Apr 18, 2019 16:30:20 GMT -5
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Apr 18, 2019 16:58:30 GMT -5
My fault. I should have stated it was reported that it was well known that Repole and the president of the university had a falling out... This I agree with and it's why I think the blame belongs on the president as much or more than anyone... If Cragg & Repole worked together to get Mullin out so they could get Hurley, why isn't Hurley the coach? With Repole in the picture, money shouldn't be an issue, right? So who do you think gummed up the negotiations? Hurley said it himself, "He's happy out west". He's got a family and moving them for the third time in 5 years can't be easy. Not to mention the lifestyle benefits of Arizona over New York. I say this as a person who was born and raised in the NYC. The weather alone is a huge bonus. Plus he probably got the exact same deal out of Arizona State that he would have gotten from St. John's but with more stability and not having to build a program from the ground up for a third time. The Pac 12 is a weak(er) conference and he has the Arizona State program to the point that they can compete annually for the conference championship. Why should the President of the university get any blame? Because he did bend over and spread it for the money man's every wish and desire?
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Apr 18, 2019 17:02:48 GMT -5
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Post by Buckets on Apr 18, 2019 17:36:11 GMT -5
Paul Hewitt??? If we’re that far down the list, it’s time to move from joking “wouldn’t Metta World Peace be great?” to seriously asking “wouldn’t Metta World Peace be better than Paul Hewitt?”
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Apr 18, 2019 17:40:09 GMT -5
Yeah, SJU could be bad for a while.
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Post by hoyas315 on Apr 18, 2019 18:09:19 GMT -5
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Post by professorhoya on Apr 18, 2019 18:10:42 GMT -5
I'll take the gig at St. John's. Will hire DanMQ (Lead Recruiter) and OldHoyaFan (X's and O's) as my assistant coaches.
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Post by SDHoya on Apr 18, 2019 18:19:16 GMT -5
Mike Anderson would be a good hire. Not quite sure why things didn't work out for him at Arkansas, but he had good, exciting teams at UAB and Mizzou.
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Post by hoyas big supporter on Apr 18, 2019 18:58:58 GMT -5
Twas just a joke but thank you for the additional info I'm here to help, except when I am there to drink and dance. Seriously though, if you find yourself in PR, reach out to PR and get shown the town in style. Haha good to know, I’ll keep it in mind. Hopefully he’s working his connects to get a preseason tournament going there, it would be a great experience for all involved.
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Post by EtomicB on Apr 18, 2019 19:03:03 GMT -5
This I agree with and it's why I think the blame belongs on the president as much or more than anyone... If Cragg & Repole worked together to get Mullin out so they could get Hurley, why isn't Hurley the coach? With Repole in the picture, money shouldn't be an issue, right? So who do you think gummed up the negotiations? Hurley said it himself, "He's happy out west". He's got a family and moving them for the third time in 5 years can't be easy. Not to mention the lifestyle benefits of Arizona over New York. I say this as a person who was born and raised in the NYC. The weather alone is a huge bonus. Plus he probably got the exact same deal out of Arizona State that he would have gotten from St. John's but with more stability and not having to build a program from the ground up for a third time. The Pac 12 is a weak(er) conference and he has the Arizona State program to the point that they can compete annually for the conference championship. Why should the President of the university get any blame? Because he did bend over and spread it for the money man's every wish and desire? Hard to debate that, if Hurley says he's happy where is he is I have to take him at his word... So now I have to wonder who blocked Cluess in this debacle?
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Post by hoyarooter on Apr 18, 2019 19:29:36 GMT -5
I hear that Steve Lavin is available...
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Post by hoyarooter on Apr 18, 2019 19:31:53 GMT -5
Most amazing thing to me is SJU appears to have had no clue about what to do after discarding Mullin. Arguments can and have been made for and against keeping him, but to let him go with no idea of what to do next? Very poor leadership...and, as always, in every organization, leadership starts at the TOP! Sad to see what's happening in Queens. If it were happening in Syracuse.... hooray! But to an original Big East team? Embarrassing and a a bad look for the Conference. Hard to see how this one has a happy ending. Almost as bad as UCLA teasing Calipari and then being stuck with Mick Cronin for the next 7 years. OT, but I think Mick Cronin will do just fine at UCLA. To my mind, he's a better choice than either Jamie Dixon or Rick Barnes.
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Post by DanMcQ on Apr 18, 2019 19:32:06 GMT -5
I'll take the gig at St. John's. Will hire DanMQ (Lead Recruiter) and OldHoyaFan (X's and O's) as my assistant coaches. I'm too lazy. pr is already bashing me.
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Post by DanMcQ on Apr 18, 2019 19:38:27 GMT -5
Apparently Goodman is not on Anderson retainer.
Wow.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Apr 18, 2019 19:50:39 GMT -5
Apparently Goodman is not on Anderson retainer. Proof that a broken clock could be right twice a day. His style of play fits well (up tempo/high pressure) at St. John's. Goodman is right, Anderson doesn't have N.Y. recruiting ties. He doesn't have northeast recruiting ties. Would have to hire a very good recruiting coach with northeast ties. Not the worst hire considering what's left...
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Apr 18, 2019 19:55:08 GMT -5
Apparently Goodman is not on Anderson retainer. Wow. Goodman's a complete idiot. But you bring up a good point. Who is he shilling for to get the job? Who Paid his fee? How soon before we here Stansbury is interested or in the mix for the job?
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Apr 18, 2019 19:58:51 GMT -5
Hurley said it himself, "He's happy out west". He's got a family and moving them for the third time in 5 years can't be easy. Not to mention the lifestyle benefits of Arizona over New York. I say this as a person who was born and raised in the NYC. The weather alone is a huge bonus. Plus he probably got the exact same deal out of Arizona State that he would have gotten from St. John's but with more stability and not having to build a program from the ground up for a third time. The Pac 12 is a weak(er) conference and he has the Arizona State program to the point that they can compete annually for the conference championship. Why should the President of the university get any blame? Because he did bend over and spread it for the money man's every wish and desire? Hard to debate that, if Hurley says he's happy where is he is I have to take him at his word... So now I have to wonder who blocked Cluess in this debacle? From everything I've read it's Repole. Ignore what he's saying in public. He wants a big name for the St. John's job and has manipulated Cragg into this disaster. He was willing to buy out Mullin's contract but not Cluess's buyout?
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