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Post by prhoya on Apr 18, 2019 9:51:50 GMT -5
Rumor has it that JT3 is in the mix...
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Apr 18, 2019 10:05:53 GMT -5
From all I've read and seems like Repole is covering his a$$ while throwing everyone else under the bus. Repole played a huge part in all of this. He never wanted Coach Mullin. He obviously wanted a Hurley for whatever reason. At the end of the day none of this had to occur. Why force Coach Mullin out after an NCAA Tournament season. 99.9% of schools would be giving a coach in Chris Mullin's situation an extension. That's a no brainer. If I'm St. John's, I'm looking at ways to fire Cragg and bring in a whole new administration to run things. You can't keep him. No one wants the job because he's running the program into the ground. Complete $hit Show... Cragg is the 3rd AD @ St. John's during Mullin's tenure as coach, to me that speaks to terrible leadership in their administration... If you need a coach, would you rather have a person with coaching experience or a person who's never coached before? It's not a surprise Repole wanted others besides Mullin right? My question would be, did he support the program while Mullin was the coach, I've read nothing that says he didn't...Not sure why Repole would need to cover his @ss here, he won't get blamed for any of this... I definitely agree that none of this had to occur, posted this sentiment when it 1st happened but I put much of the blame on terrible leadership... They should get James Jones & hope like crazy he can do a good job... What's your definition of support? Did he go to games and cheer for his alma mater or did he cut huge checks in support while Chris Mullin was coaching the program? Repole admitted to having a fall out with the president of the school over the hiring of Mullin. I highly doubt he was cutting checks after their fall out. It was through Cragg that Repole was brought back into the St. John's fold...
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Post by professorhoya on Apr 18, 2019 10:33:37 GMT -5
Pushed out Chris Mullin and look what happens. Be careful what you wish for Thompson/Ewing haters.
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Post by trillesthoya on Apr 18, 2019 10:36:11 GMT -5
This had nothing to do with pushing Mullin out and everything to do with the Athletic Department being incompetent. Mullin was losing all of his talent next season, wasn't recruiting (like at all) and was already checked out by the end of the season. He knew coaching wasn't for him and lost his drive for it early in Big East play.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Apr 18, 2019 10:50:53 GMT -5
This had nothing to do with pushing Mullin out and everything to do with the Athletic Department being incompetent. Mullin was losing all of his talent next season, wasn't recruiting (like at all) and was already checked out by the end of the season. He knew coaching wasn't for him and lost his drive for it early in Big East play. Wow...this take/spin is right out of the William Barr playbook
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Post by EtomicB on Apr 18, 2019 11:02:54 GMT -5
Cragg is the 3rd AD @ St. John's during Mullin's tenure as coach, to me that speaks to terrible leadership in their administration... If you need a coach, would you rather have a person with coaching experience or a person who's never coached before? It's not a surprise Repole wanted others besides Mullin right? My question would be, did he support the program while Mullin was the coach, I've read nothing that says he didn't...Not sure why Repole would need to cover his @ss here, he won't get blamed for any of this... I definitely agree that none of this had to occur, posted this sentiment when it 1st happened but I put much of the blame on terrible leadership... They should get James Jones & hope like crazy he can do a good job... What's your definition of support? Did he go to games and cheer for his alma mater or did he cut huge checks in support while Chris Mullin was coaching the program? Repole admitted to having a fall out with the president of the school over the hiring of Mullin. I highly doubt he was cutting checks after their fall out. It was through Cragg that Repole was brought back into the St. John's fold... When did Repole admit that there was a falling out over the hiring of Mullin?
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Apr 18, 2019 11:08:13 GMT -5
Rumor has it that JT3 is in the mix... Ironically, given what's happened, St. John's could do a lot worse. But, St. John's would never hire a Thompson.
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Post by njhoya78 on Apr 18, 2019 11:34:17 GMT -5
Plenty of Italian restaurants in Queens for Little Ricky. Just sayin'.
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Post by prhoya on Apr 18, 2019 11:37:12 GMT -5
Rumor has it that JT3 is in the mix... Ironically, given what's happened, St. John's could do a lot worse. But, St. John's would never hire a Thompson. Why? IMO, and from his behavior here, JT3 wouldn’t expose himself to the scrutiny of the NYC market. He couldn’t get away with not answering questions.
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Post by seaweed on Apr 18, 2019 12:06:57 GMT -5
This had nothing to do with pushing Mullin out and everything to do with the Athletic Department being incompetent. Mullin was losing all of his talent next season, wasn't recruiting (like at all) and was already checked out by the end of the season. He knew coaching wasn't for him and lost his drive for it early in Big East play. Wow...this take/spin is right out of the William Barr playbook Mullin stated that he lost his taste for the gig after his brother died (early March) but I think he was struggling with the situation much earlier in the season. That's not spin - his heart was not in it any more.
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Post by EtomicB on Apr 18, 2019 12:21:29 GMT -5
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Post by prhoya on Apr 18, 2019 12:28:26 GMT -5
Pushed out Chris Mullin and look what happens. Be careful what you wish for Thompson/Ewing haters. What about the few Thompson lovers/Ewing haters we have here?
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Apr 18, 2019 12:35:56 GMT -5
What's your definition of support? Did he go to games and cheer for his alma mater or did he cut huge checks in support while Chris Mullin was coaching the program? Repole admitted to having a fall out with the president of the school over the hiring of Mullin. I highly doubt he was cutting checks after their fall out. It was through Cragg that Repole was brought back into the St. John's fold... When did Repole admit that there was a falling out over the hiring of Mullin? My fault. I should have stated it was reported that it was well known that Repole and the president of the university had a falling out...
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Post by SirSaxa on Apr 18, 2019 12:45:01 GMT -5
Most amazing thing to me is SJU appears to have had no clue about what to do after discarding Mullin. Arguments can and have been made for and against keeping him, but to let him go with no idea of what to do next? Very poor leadership...and, as always, in every organization, leadership starts at the TOP!
Sad to see what's happening in Queens. If it were happening in Syracuse.... hooray! But to an original Big East team? Embarrassing and a a bad look for the Conference. Hard to see how this one has a happy ending.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Apr 18, 2019 13:32:16 GMT -5
Wow...this take/spin is right out of the William Barr playbook Mullin stated that he lost his taste for the gig after his brother died (early March) but I think he was struggling with the situation much earlier in the season. That's not spin - his heart was not in it any more. Then why was he asking for an extension? He had interviews set up with respected recruiting specialist to replace Abdelmassih when Cragg said no. Why go through that process if he was leaving because he didn't want to do the job anymore? Why did he go to the higher ups to get his extension? His brothers death was part of the excuse he gave when he was rebuffed on his demands for an extension, knowing without the extension he couldn't attract high level recruiting coaches or prospects as he would be viewed as a lame duck coach. Coaches need to be able to go into homes and say I'll be with you throughout your time (4-5 years) on campus an their contract has to say the same. That's why you normally see contracts extended with less then three years remaining to a minimum of five years. It shows stability within the program...
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Post by hoyas big supporter on Apr 18, 2019 13:51:53 GMT -5
Mullin stated that he lost his taste for the gig after his brother died (early March) but I think he was struggling with the situation much earlier in the season. That's not spin - his heart was not in it any more. Then why was he asking for an extension? He had interviews set up with respected recruiting specialist to replace Abdelmassih when Cragg said no. Why go through that process if he was leaving because he didn't want to do the job anymore? Why did he go to the higher ups to get his extension? His brothers death was part of the excuse he gave when he was rebuffed on his demands for an extension, knowing without the extension he couldn't attract high level recruiting coaches or prospects as he would be viewed as a lame duck coach. Coaches need to be able to go into homes and say I'll be with you throughout your time (4-5 years) on campus an their contract has to say the same. That's why you normally see contracts extended with less then three years remaining to a minimum of five years. It shows stability within the program... That’s an interesting theory/opinion...
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Post by hoyas big supporter on Apr 18, 2019 13:52:44 GMT -5
Ironically, given what's happened, St. John's could do a lot worse. But, St. John's would never hire a Thompson. Why? IMO, and from his behavior here, JT3 wouldn’t expose himself to the scrutiny of the NYC market. He couldn’t get away with not answering questions. “Get away with not answering questions” 😂 your handle is very appropriate.
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Post by seaweed on Apr 18, 2019 14:24:52 GMT -5
Why? IMO, and from his behavior here, JT3 wouldn’t expose himself to the scrutiny of the NYC market. He couldn’t get away with not answering questions. “Get away with not answering questions” 😂 your handle is very appropriate. Pretty sure PR here is Puerto Rico, not Public Relations. Actually certain, since the last time I was in San Juan I went club hopping with PR and it was good.
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Post by professorhoya on Apr 18, 2019 15:15:13 GMT -5
Most amazing thing to me is SJU appears to have had no clue about what to do after discarding Mullin. Arguments can and have been made for and against keeping him, but to let him go with no idea of what to do next? Very poor leadership...and, as always, in every organization, leadership starts at the TOP! Sad to see what's happening in Queens. If it were happening in Syracuse.... hooray! But to an original Big East team? Embarrassing and a a bad look for the Conference. Hard to see how this one has a happy ending. Almost as bad as UCLA teasing Calipari and then being stuck with Mick Cronin for the next 7 years.
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Post by hoyas big supporter on Apr 18, 2019 15:44:49 GMT -5
“Get away with not answering questions” 😂 your handle is very appropriate. Pretty sure PR here is Puerto Rico, not Public Relations. Actually certain, since the last time I was in San Juan I went club hopping with PR and it was good. Twas just a joke but thank you for the additional info
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