RBHoya
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Post by RBHoya on Apr 17, 2019 16:23:34 GMT -5
As many here have stated; it is hard to believe that SJU started down this road without what seems to be a real plan. Given how bad this has gone, I wonder if they really were the ones to start down this road? Spin seems to be that Mullin was run out of town, but the original reports were that he was going to resign and I thought the actual reports were of a "mutual parting of ways." Are we sure it wasn't Mullin, recognizing that next year's team was going to be worse than this year's and that the writing was on the wall, who initiated the break up? I'm sure that the AD and the university weren't too torn up, because it was plain to see that this wasn't exactly going anywhere quickly. But it seems plausible that they came to some sort of agreement to buy him out after he expressed some hesitation about continuing to coach. That would make much more sense, and you could see how they'd end up a bit unprepared in that case. Everyone seems to be assuming that Mullin wanted to keep coaching and the AD canned him, and maybe there's been confirmation of that, but thought the other perspective might be worth considering. If they really did actively drive Mullin out and didn't have their ducks lined up in a row after that, it's been very mismanaged. It seems like they're just grasping at "flavor of the week" types. This is the stage of the process where I think an outside-the-box hire would be worth strongly considering--unfortunately they sort of went that route with Mullin and so logically the successor would be someone more conventional (ie. a current head coach of a mid major program, ideally in the northeast). But none of the guys mentioned is very inspiring. There's a belief among some that the next hire needs to be able to nail down NYC recruiting. I'm not so sure. I tend to think that the idea that NYC is the epicenter of basketball talent is dramatically overstated. Also it seems like these days a lot of the best NYC players leave the city to attend high school, nevermind college. It's not the same as it was a couple decades ago, when they all went to Lincoln or Christ the King or a handful of others. Now the best players raised in the city are going to places like La Lumiere or Oak Hill or IMG. It's hard to really argue that St. John's has much of an advantage in recruiting NY kids from those schools--maybe there's allure to some of coming home and playing in the Garden, but if they already left the area for high school most would be just as happy to play at Duke or Kentucky or UNC or Syracuse. I think there might be some merit to the idea of bringing in someone who has strong connections in another part of the country to get the ball rolling. That's the method Jim Calhoun took to build UConn--everyone told him he had to nail NYC recruiting, but it was so messy and competitive that it was almost a total loss. So instead they built it up with guys from outside the area ie. Ray Allen, Caron Butler, Rip Hamilton, etc. Once they found success, high level players from NYC sought them (ie. Kemba Walker). St. John's may be well served to do the same. The people who say "SJU has to recruit NYC! The Garden sells itself!" remind me a bit of the people who have thought that the Knicks could cherry pick the best free agents each year for the last 20 or so because "We're New York!". Most times, I think that's insufficient.
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Hoyas4Ever
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Apr 17, 2019 16:23:46 GMT -5
$hit Show...
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EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Apr 17, 2019 16:25:30 GMT -5
Very solid pick-up for Xavier, he hit 64 of 164 from 3 during his Jr. season, that's legit shooting...
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Post by tominsalem on Apr 17, 2019 16:38:16 GMT -5
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Hoyas4Ever
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Apr 17, 2019 16:50:58 GMT -5
Vitamin Water CEO! No longer involved in coaching search. He was the driving force along with Cragg to push Chris Mullin out...
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Apr 17, 2019 17:08:21 GMT -5
He’s probably blown away by how incompetent Cragg is. No real world experience and it shows!
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hoyas315
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Post by hoyas315 on Apr 17, 2019 17:23:40 GMT -5
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Post by EtomicB on Apr 17, 2019 17:35:04 GMT -5
He’s probably blown away by how incompetent Cragg is. No real world experience and it shows! The interview & article shows that Repole likes Cragg but not the folks who are Cragg's bosses... Here's a quote from the article: Repole said president Bobby Gempesaw and vice president for administration, secretary and general counsel Joe Oliva were the reasons Hurley didn’t wind up coming to St. John’s, and he said the two are standing in the way of first-year athletic director Mike Cragg making a hire for the job left vacant when Chris Mullin stepped down eight days ago. Repole said Loyola-Chicago coach Porter Moser passed on the job because he felt he wasn’t Cragg’s choice.
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LCPolo18
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Post by LCPolo18 on Apr 17, 2019 17:35:15 GMT -5
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Post by EtomicB on Apr 17, 2019 18:14:30 GMT -5
As I stated yesterday, I think Jones would be a good hire at this point...
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Post by wponds on Apr 17, 2019 18:21:47 GMT -5
Couldn't be more of a mess
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Apr 17, 2019 18:36:52 GMT -5
As I stated yesterday, I think Jones would be a good hire at this point... Frank Haith would be a complete disaster. A true mercenary coach who has always played free and loose with NCAA rules. So with that said and Cragg running this $hit Show, I expect Frank Haith to be announced shortly as the next coach at St. John's...
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Post by sweetness on Apr 17, 2019 18:37:13 GMT -5
That Repole interview was wild!
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Hoyas4Ever
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Apr 17, 2019 18:39:57 GMT -5
That Repole interview was wild! Can't let the patience run the asylum...
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Post by Lethal_Interjection on Apr 17, 2019 18:44:16 GMT -5
As I stated yesterday, I think Jones would be a good hire at this point... Frank Haith would be a complete disaster. A true mercenary coach who has always played free and loose with NCAA rules. So with that said and Cragg running this $hit Show, I expect Frank Haith to be announced shortly as the next coach at St. John's... Haith may have finally learned his lessons from his past. He could be a good hire or a bad hire for the Johnnies.
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EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Apr 17, 2019 18:51:12 GMT -5
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Post by seaweed on Apr 17, 2019 19:25:34 GMT -5
Perhaps the biggest step down academically possible
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Post by hoyarooter on Apr 17, 2019 20:14:29 GMT -5
That Repole interview was wild! Always Shopping has no shot in the Oaks.
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Post by EtomicB on Apr 17, 2019 21:25:54 GMT -5
Repole definitely thinks highly of the AD, he puts everything at the feet of the School president...
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Hoyas4Ever
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Apr 17, 2019 21:46:29 GMT -5
Repole definitely thinks highly of the AD, he puts everything at the feet of the School president... Yeah because Repole finally had someone who would do his bidding. He Never wanted Coach Mullin. Seems to have something more then an infatuation with the Hurley brothers as he wanted Danny Hurley four years ago. President balked and hired Chris Mullin. Repole and the president had a falling out over that decision. Now with Cragg hired, Repole found an easily manipulated minion that was willing to force Mullin out as Repole was willing to pay off his four million $$$ remaining on Coach Mullin's contract in an effort to get Bobby Hurley. That failed as Bobby Hurley used the opportunity to get a nice raise and extension. With no real backup plan whatsoever, Cragg finds himself leading a $hit Show instead of a viable coaching search. Done reports say Cragg wants to hire Coach Cluess buy Repole doesn't want Coach Cluess, he wants a big-time name. So Repole won't assist St. John's in buying out Coach Cluess. This is why you can't let the inmates run the asylum...
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