SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 9, 2019 21:28:49 GMT -5
Not based on todays game or result, but just overall, it turns out you and your analytics were wrong. Really wrong. No shame in just admitting that. And I love Casual Hoya and have no problem with negativity when it is warranted. Your post regarding the last play of the game today says it all. Just please tell me the analytics that were wrong. All I am asking is to point them out and I will respond accordingly. Just saying they were wrong and asking me to admit it is weird without telling me which were wrong. I normally have your posts hidden, mostly because I firmly believe that everyone in this world would be happier if they just ignored you, but I'm going to take the bait here. You're not a good analyst. And here's why: * You continually post stats you don't understand and don't mean much. You're in love in D Rating, for example, even though it is a pretty terrible stat. * You cherry pick stats to support your POV; you don't actually holistically look at anything to truly evaluate. This is evident by the fact that you only post stats after players' bad games; your insistence on posting Mac's full year stats instead of his Big East stats; your complete focus on FG% and ignoring of FT%, turnover rate ... basically anything a player you hate does well. * You really don't seem to understand the relationship between usage and efficiency, or the need for certain skills against certain levels of defense. * You have failed all year to acknowledge the possibility of improvement -- hence the crazy-ass call to cut the freshmen guards' minutes to run out Greg as an offensive focus. * Scouting wise, you are pretty awful as well. Should we go back to whether you thought Mac could play at this level? Or should we talk about your weird paranoia when you were insistent that Ewing was happy with Mac as his only incoming and wasn't recruiting anyone else and that we were screwed? I could go on. Analytics is a lot more than repeating numbers, and your super condescending but meaningless comments like "I have a lot of experience to share" and "I win a lot by gambling" just makes you sound like an ass. However, that's not even the most tiresome part of your schtick. The whole "I'm a persecuted realist while all of you are stupid delusional optimists" isn't true. Here's what true, from a pretty unbiased analyst: The Hoyas have been decidedly mediocre this year. They are wildly inconsistent game to game and it is often very dependent on whether we are making threes or whether the opponent is annihilating us from the same spot. Effort is inconsistent from game to game and the defense shows it. We're dependent on the three because we only have three guys who can create anything ... and all of them are flawed. We're pretty likely to turn in a dud next Thursday and it's really not likely we win two more to even have a shot at the tourney. But we're also a team that can play with most teams. We're capable of beating anyone in the Big East, and our three creators, when making their shots, are really freaking hard to stop. Is this a likely coming together? No, it isn't. It could be, but unlikely. But holy cow, you are an incredibly negative person. You claim to give credit to the players you hate when they succeed, but when they fail, it's 45 comments in the game thread and nasty comments for the rest of the week. When they do well, it's a "they played well but I still think they suck." When the team wins like today, you are quick to post telling people it's a mirage and that they are delusional sheep. But when we get blown out, I missed where you were here reminding people that this team is Jeckyll and Hyde and that we could just as easily come back and win this game. Perhaps I missed it? But I'm pretty confident you're not. And both things were equally true. We are not as good as today and not as bad as Wednesday. Stop pretending that you are this analytical mastermind who knows more than everyone else and is persecuted for your views, and take a look and see that you're simply a negative person who took a POV early on that two talented, but young, guards are trash and you're going to defend it to the end. Enjoy.
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NCHoya
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Post by NCHoya on Mar 9, 2019 21:29:16 GMT -5
You said earlier this year that for this year, you preferred a Mosley/Malinowski backcourt over Mackinjo. Yes and I still do. Today Mackinjo was great. Overall they haven't been. Are you serious? Akinjo is the runaway BE freshman of the year and McClung is going to be all-BE 1st team freshman. What more could you have possibly expected this year from that duo? These were not one and done (or even 2 or 3 and done) players. I cannot imagine what your expectations could have been for James since it seems he is not even close to meeting them. Was it first team all-american or bust? From the #90 overall recruit. Do you think the problem might be that you may have unreasonable expectations? just a bit? Seriously, try to enjoy watching a young team grow.
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Post by jwp91 on Mar 9, 2019 21:31:57 GMT -5
The ignore feature is your friend.
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Post by FHillsNYHoya on Mar 9, 2019 21:32:30 GMT -5
Just please tell me the analytics that were wrong. All I am asking is to point them out and I will respond accordingly. Just saying they were wrong and asking me to admit it is weird without telling me which were wrong. I normally have your posts hidden, mostly because I firmly believe that everyone in this world would be happier if they just ignored you, but I'm going to take the bait here. You're not a good analyst. And here's why: * You continually post stats you don't understand and don't mean much. You're in love in D Rating, for example, even though it is a pretty terrible stat. * You cherry pick stats to support your POV; you don't actually holistically look at anything to truly evaluate. This is evident by the fact that you only post stats after players' bad games; your insistence on posting Mac's full year stats instead of his Big East stats; your complete focus on FG% and ignoring of FT%, turnover rate ... basically anything a player you hate does well. * You really don't seem to understand the relationship between usage and efficiency, or the need for certain skills against certain levels of defense. * You have failed all year to acknowledge the possibility of improvement -- hence the crazy-ass call to cut the freshmen guards' minutes to run out Greg as an offensive focus. * Scouting wise, you are pretty awful as well. Should we go back to whether you thought Mac could play at this level? Or should we talk about your weird paranoia when you were insistent that Ewing was happy with Mac as his only incoming and wasn't recruiting anyone else and that we were screwed? I could go on. Analytics is a lot more than repeating numbers, and your super condescending but meaningless comments like "I have a lot of experience to share" and "I win a lot by gambling" just makes you sound like an ass. However, that's not even the most tiresome part of your schtick. The whole "I'm a persecuted realist while all of you are stupid delusional optimists" isn't true. Here's what true, from a pretty unbiased analyst: The Hoyas have been decidedly mediocre this year. They are wildly inconsistent game to game and it is often very dependent on whether we are making threes or whether the opponent is annihilating us from the same spot. Effort is inconsistent from game to game and the defense shows it. We're dependent on the three because we only have three guys who can create anything ... and all of them are flawed. We're pretty likely to turn in a dud next Thursday and it's really not likely we win two more to even have a shot at the tourney. But we're also a team that can play with most teams. We're capable of beating anyone in the Big East, and our three creators, when making their shots, are really freaking hard to stop. Is this a likely coming together? No, it isn't. It could be, but unlikely. But holy cow, you are an incredibly negative person. You claim to give credit to the players you hate when they succeed, but when they fail, it's 45 comments in the game thread and nasty comments for the rest of the week. When they do well, it's a "they played well but I still think they suck." When the team wins like today, you are quick to post telling people it's a mirage and that they are delusional sheep. But when we get blown out, I missed where you were here reminding people that this team is Jeckyll and Hyde and that we could just as easily come back and win this game. Perhaps I missed it? But I'm pretty confident you're not. And both things were equally true. We are not as good as today and not as bad as Wednesday. Stop pretending that you are this analytical mastermind who knows more than everyone else and is persecuted for your views, and take a look and see that you're simply a negative person who took a POV early on that two talented, but young, guards are trash and you're going to defend it to the end. Enjoy. I give you tremendous credit for spending that much time on this SF.
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 9, 2019 21:35:26 GMT -5
I somewhat regret taking the bait. But the martyrdom act while the rest of us delusional luddites dare to enjoy a big win definitely got to me. I suppose he wins.
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Post by sleepy on Mar 9, 2019 21:35:36 GMT -5
If you would like to show the numbers that make you feel that way I'll gladly listen. If your point is they haven’t played well in every game, and that their play in some games contributed to the loss you will get no argument here. But surely you must acknowledge that they made significant contributions in the games we won (not just today), and that we would not have won those games without them. And if you think we would be 9-9 starting anyone other than Janes and Mac you’re on an island by yourself. I think we can all agree with this take.
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hoyainla
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Post by hoyainla on Mar 9, 2019 21:36:57 GMT -5
If you would like to show the numbers that make you feel that way I'll gladly listen. Who do you think are the best players on our team and who would you like to see on the court in the last 5 minutes of a tied road Big East game? Please answer that question. Who should be on the court? It would depend who the PG of the other team was but some mix of James/Greg/Jagan at 1-2 but defineily Josh, Kaleb, Jessie at 3-5.
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hoyazeke
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Post by hoyazeke on Mar 9, 2019 21:38:22 GMT -5
You said earlier this year that for this year, you preferred a Mosley/Malinowski backcourt over Mackinjo. Yes and I still do. Today Mackinjo was great. Overall they haven't been. LA you would be Jay Gruden as a coach....9-7, 8-8, or 7-9 every year....every game would be a nail biter....you would never blow anyone out but you would also never get blown out...you would get to the tourney but never get pass the round of 32....never ever being a real threat to win any C'ship...because you can't stand the pain that goes along with growth....
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Post by FHillsNYHoya on Mar 9, 2019 21:39:51 GMT -5
I somewhat regret taking the bait. But the martyrdom act while the rest of us delusional luddites dared to enjoy a big win definitely got to me. I suppose he wins. Not in my book. You are objective. And if there were ever a night in the last 4 years to feel good about a W it is now (although I said the same thing last Saturday). BTW, pretty sure hoyainla said DePaul was an unmitigated dumpster fire as a team when we beat them. Guess we would lose in the WCAC playoffs. Thankfully we can go to NY instead on Thursday.
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NCHoya
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Post by NCHoya on Mar 9, 2019 21:45:49 GMT -5
Just please tell me the analytics that were wrong. All I am asking is to point them out and I will respond accordingly. Just saying they were wrong and asking me to admit it is weird without telling me which were wrong. I normally have your posts hidden, mostly because I firmly believe that everyone in this world would be happier if they just ignored you, but I'm going to take the bait here. You're not a good analyst. And here's why: * You continually post stats you don't understand and don't mean much. You're in love in D Rating, for example, even though it is a pretty terrible stat. * You cherry pick stats to support your POV; you don't actually holistically look at anything to truly evaluate. This is evident by the fact that you only post stats after players' bad games; your insistence on posting Mac's full year stats instead of his Big East stats; your complete focus on FG% and ignoring of FT%, turnover rate ... basically anything a player you hate does well. * You really don't seem to understand the relationship between usage and efficiency, or the need for certain skills against certain levels of defense. * You have failed all year to acknowledge the possibility of improvement -- hence the crazy-ass call to cut the freshmen guards' minutes to run out Greg as an offensive focus. * Scouting wise, you are pretty awful as well. Should we go back to whether you thought Mac could play at this level? Or should we talk about your weird paranoia when you were insistent that Ewing was happy with Mac as his only incoming and wasn't recruiting anyone else and that we were screwed? I could go on. Analytics is a lot more than repeating numbers, and your super condescending but meaningless comments like "I have a lot of experience to share" and "I win a lot by gambling" just makes you sound like an ass. However, that's not even the most tiresome part of your schtick. The whole "I'm a persecuted realist while all of you are stupid delusional optimists" isn't true. Here's what true, from a pretty unbiased analyst: The Hoyas have been decidedly mediocre this year. They are wildly inconsistent game to game and it is often very dependent on whether we are making threes or whether the opponent is annihilating us from the same spot. Effort is inconsistent from game to game and the defense shows it. We're dependent on the three because we only have three guys who can create anything ... and all of them are flawed. We're pretty likely to turn in a dud next Thursday and it's really not likely we win two more to even have a shot at the tourney. But we're also a team that can play with most teams. We're capable of beating anyone in the Big East, and our three creators, when making their shots, are really freaking hard to stop. Is this a likely coming together? No, it isn't. It could be, but unlikely. But holy cow, you are an incredibly negative person. You claim to give credit to the players you hate when they succeed, but when they fail, it's 45 comments in the game thread and nasty comments for the rest of the week. When they do well, it's a "they played well but I still think they suck." When the team wins like today, you are quick to post telling people it's a mirage and that they are delusional sheep. But when we get blown out, I missed where you were here reminding people that this team is Jeckyll and Hyde and that we could just as easily come back and win this game. Perhaps I missed it? But I'm pretty confident you're not. And both things were equally true. We are not as good as today and not as bad as Wednesday. Stop pretending that you are this analytical mastermind who knows more than everyone else and is persecuted for your views, and take a look and see that you're simply a negative person who took a POV early on that two talented, but young, guards are trash and you're going to defend it to the end. Enjoy. Thank you for this write-up. There is plenty of negativity / realism from all of us on this board, we can do without the unrelenting negativity that is often over-simplified and includes too much personal bias.
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sleepy
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Post by sleepy on Mar 9, 2019 21:50:26 GMT -5
Just please tell me the analytics that were wrong. All I am asking is to point them out and I will respond accordingly. Just saying they were wrong and asking me to admit it is weird without telling me which were wrong. I normally have your posts hidden, mostly because I firmly believe that everyone in this world would be happier if they just ignored you, but I'm going to take the bait here. You're not a good analyst. And here's why: * You continually post stats you don't understand and don't mean much. You're in love in D Rating, for example, even though it is a pretty terrible stat. * You cherry pick stats to support your POV; you don't actually holistically look at anything to truly evaluate. This is evident by the fact that you only post stats after players' bad games; your insistence on posting Mac's full year stats instead of his Big East stats; your complete focus on FG% and ignoring of FT%, turnover rate ... basically anything a player you hate does well. * You really don't seem to understand the relationship between usage and efficiency, or the need for certain skills against certain levels of defense. * You have failed all year to acknowledge the possibility of improvement -- hence the crazy-ass call to cut the freshmen guards' minutes to run out Greg as an offensive focus. * Scouting wise, you are pretty awful as well. Should we go back to whether you thought Mac could play at this level? Or should we talk about your weird paranoia when you were insistent that Ewing was happy with Mac as his only incoming and wasn't recruiting anyone else and that we were screwed? I could go on. Analytics is a lot more than repeating numbers, and your super condescending but meaningless comments like "I have a lot of experience to share" and "I win a lot by gambling" just makes you sound like an ass. However, that's not even the most tiresome part of your schtick. The whole "I'm a persecuted realist while all of you are stupid delusional optimists" isn't true. Here's what true, from a pretty unbiased analyst: The Hoyas have been decidedly mediocre this year. They are wildly inconsistent game to game and it is often very dependent on whether we are making threes or whether the opponent is annihilating us from the same spot. Effort is inconsistent from game to game and the defense shows it. We're dependent on the three because we only have three guys who can create anything ... and all of them are flawed. We're pretty likely to turn in a dud next Thursday and it's really not likely we win two more to even have a shot at the tourney. But we're also a team that can play with most teams. We're capable of beating anyone in the Big East, and our three creators, when making their shots, are really freaking hard to stop. Is this a likely coming together? No, it isn't. It could be, but unlikely. But holy cow, you are an incredibly negative person. You claim to give credit to the players you hate when they succeed, but when they fail, it's 45 comments in the game thread and nasty comments for the rest of the week. When they do well, it's a "they played well but I still think they suck." When the team wins like today, you are quick to post telling people it's a mirage and that they are delusional sheep. But when we get blown out, I missed where you were here reminding people that this team is Jeckyll and Hyde and that we could just as easily come back and win this game. Perhaps I missed it? But I'm pretty confident you're not. And both things were equally true. We are not as good as today and not as bad as Wednesday. Stop pretending that you are this analytical mastermind who knows more than everyone else and is persecuted for your views, and take a look and see that you're simply a negative person who took a POV early on that two talented, but young, guards are trash and you're going to defend it to the end. Enjoy. This is a great take and I agree with this analysis minus one point, that they won't win 2 games next week. Based on past performance this season and complete inconsistency , it's true that it should seem unlikely. But one thing they've consistently done well is show up when the stage is big, and next week is the biggest stage they've been on. And this is why I've been predicting a BET Championship since January and will hold onto that prediction going into this week. Also, this is the one poster who the block feature does not work for me so your ability to hide his posts is coveted.
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GIGAFAN99
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 9, 2019 21:50:33 GMT -5
I somewhat regret taking the bait. But the martyrdom act while the rest of us delusional luddites dare to enjoy a big win definitely got to me. I suppose he wins. SF I literally come to this board because you and a handful of posters are still here to talk about basketball. So much is endless negativity, poorly spun analytics, and general trolling. Thank you. You win.
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Post by JohnnyJones on Mar 9, 2019 22:00:26 GMT -5
I somewhat regret taking the bait. But the martyrdom act while the rest of us delusional luddites dare to enjoy a big win definitely got to me. I suppose he wins. SF I literally come to this board because you and a handful of posters are still here to talk about basketball. So much is endless negativity, poorly spun analytics, and general trolling. Thank you. You win. Agree 100%. Other than the guy who posted Wednesday night that if every other team on the bubble loses to DePaul by 30 this week we are right back in it (I can’t find that post again??) - SF’s post above is the post of the year.
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hoyainla
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Post by hoyainla on Mar 9, 2019 22:00:43 GMT -5
I somewhat regret taking the bait. But the martyrdom act while the rest of us delusional luddites dare to enjoy a big win definitely got to me. I suppose he wins. I'll just quote this one since the other one is so long for the sake of the board. The BE #s of the backcourt is similar enough to the OOC that it's not enough to claim this improvement that everyone wants to believe and I am sure you know they aren't good. You act like I'm just looking at individual efficiency numbers. I am guessing you have studied the lineup numbers to be making these claims. We had 4 games of no Mac and increased usage for others. The numbers didn't plummet. We didn't even have a bad game in the bunch. Gladly pick the stats you want to back up your POV vs mine and I will gladly listen. The fact that you question my ability to analyze analytics is barely worth a reply but I am more than confident in my qualifications. Scouting wise I said that Mac wasn't good enough to be a PG that I would be comfortable with and most of my pushback was when he was going to be our PG savior. I never said he couldn't play at this level. I have gone over this many times but you must not have seen. Nothing I've seen changes that. Mac is actually better offensively than I thought he would be right now. I knew he wasn't a good shooter. He still is not even an average shooter even if you just consider his BE stats but he is still better than I thought. The one thing that has impressed me the most about him is that jump stop tear drop. That is an elite move. He has been put in a position where he can't fail in the eyes of the fan base because Pat just lets him shoot as much as he wants. He's taking more shots than Marcus took. Fans don't care how many shots he's taking they just see the PPG. We won't even bring in his defense because not even the biggest Mac supporters would claim anything positive with that. Last year I complained about these same efficiency problems with Jamorko and Blair while everyone else was tooting their horns as the building blocks. They were BE freshman team after all, the ultimate usage award. This year Pickett is being run out by those same people and Blair is an afterthought. I wonder why.
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Post by mdtd on Mar 9, 2019 22:04:11 GMT -5
Who do you think are the best players on our team and who would you like to see on the court in the last 5 minutes of a tied road Big East game? Please answer that question. Who should be on the court? It would depend who the PG of the other team was but some mix of James/Greg/Jagan at 1-2 but defineily Josh, Kaleb, Jessie at 3-5. Immediately, where is the scoring coming from? Also, we'd have 3 guys on the floor who aren't three point scorers if Jagan is in. Also, no Mac is wrong. Having Kaleb, Josh, and Jessie on the floor at the same time is pointless, there would be 0 spacing with all of those guys wanting to play inside. Also, Greg isn't quick enough to defend most BE 2's. Kaleb and Josh play very similar roles, they would just neutralize each other offensively. Not saying that lineup would never work in the flow of a game, but that being the consistent every game crunch time lineup doesn't fit.
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Post by FHillsNYHoya on Mar 9, 2019 22:24:54 GMT -5
I somewhat regret taking the bait. But the martyrdom act while the rest of us delusional luddites dare to enjoy a big win definitely got to me. I suppose he wins. I'll just quote this one since the other one is so long for the sake of the board. The BE #s of the backcourt is similar enough to the OOC that it's not enough to claim this improvement that everyone wants to believe and I am sure you know they aren't good. You act like I'm just looking at individual efficiency numbers. I am guessing you have studied the lineup numbers to be making these claims. We had 4 games of no Mac and increased usage for others. The numbers didn't plummet. We didn't even have a bad game in the bunch. Gladly pick the stats you want to back up your POV vs mine and I will gladly listen. The fact that you question my ability to analyze analytics is barely worth a reply but I am more than confident in my qualifications. Scouting wise I said that Mac wasn't good enough to be a PG that I would be comfortable with and most of my pushback was when he was going to be our PG savior. I never said he couldn't play at this level. I have gone over this many times but you must not have seen. Nothing I've seen changes that. Mac is actually better offensively than I thought he would be right now. I knew he wasn't a good shooter. He still is not even an average shooter even if you just consider his BE stats but he is still better than I thought. The one thing that has impressed me the most about him is that jump stop tear drop. That is an elite move. He has been put in a position where he can't fail in the eyes of the fan base because Pat just lets him shoot as much as he wants. He's taking more shots than Marcus took. Fans don't care how many shots he's taking they just see the PPG. We won't even bring in his defense because not even the biggest Mac supporters would claim anything positive with that. Last year I complained about these same efficiency problems with Jamorko and Blair while everyone else was tooting their horns as the building blocks. They were BE freshman team after all, the ultimate usage award. This year Pickett is being run out by those same people and Blair is an afterthought. I wonder why. So happy you truncated SF's post for the sake of the board so we could read more of your drivel.
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Post by burnell on Mar 9, 2019 22:42:01 GMT -5
Some people are haters plain and simple.
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Post by drquigley on Mar 9, 2019 23:24:42 GMT -5
Time for the Doctor's two cents:
- It was obvious that the TV story line was going to be all Marquette. The pre-game and in-game announcers were dying for Howard or Hauser to light it up, blow us out, and claim a share of the BE title. You could almost see the post game interview with Wojo and Howard saying how great this team is and how wonderful the arena and fans are. But guess what? The Hoyas never got the TV message. Fu Fox.
-- Finally Pe seems to have seen the light and realized we are a better team with Govan on the bench. I'm sick of his and the "expert" announcers saying how we need to feed the post and go through Govan. The last ten minutes of the game were a preview of how well we can play without Govan and how good we will be next year with mobil big men. I've been screaming all season for PE to let Mackinjo loose and today we saw what can happen when he does. Sure there will be hiccups along the way but those two plus Josh are our future. Let them play 30+ minutes a game and we can beat anybody in this league. Forget the analytics bull. These guys are players. Maybe they weren't top 50 rated recruits but you don't put up the numbers Mac did in high school or get the accolades Akinjo did in Oakland if you can play this game.
I'm going to bed now. GO HOYAS!!!!
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TC
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Post by TC on Mar 9, 2019 23:38:49 GMT -5
I don't want to quote the whole thing, but SF's post should be post of the year.
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Post by cgallstar02 on Mar 10, 2019 0:31:34 GMT -5
Who do you think are the best players on our team and who would you like to see on the court in the last 5 minutes of a tied road Big East game? Please answer that question. Who should be on the court? It would depend who the PG of the other team was but some mix of James/Greg/Jagan at 1-2 but defineily Josh, Kaleb, Jessie at 3-5. For the record, you think Mac's game could be compared to a steaming pile of **** (although he does have a nice tear drop)... Jamorko you've been less vocal about but I'm guessing you classify him in a similar way. On the flip side, Greg and Kaleb can do no wrong. They are basketball royalty. Given the massive upgrade that Greg & Kaleb would provide, one must assume we would win significantly more games. Maybe we would be an overall analytically more efficient team, but no one besides you cares about that. What would the win/loss difference be? We are currently 19-12, 9-9 in BE... are you thinking around +5 wins? 24-7, 13-5 in BE? I'd also be curious given your statements that James and Mac should never be allowed on the floor together... if you were allowed to coach the 2nd half of today's game, would you have followed your own advice? Greg was horrible in the first half, provided nothing and forced two atrocious shots early in the shot clock. Would you still start him in the 2nd half over Mac while only allowing Mac on the floor if and when James comes out for a breather? Or would you break your own rule? Also, I've noticed that anytime Mac goes to the hole and doesn't get mugged yet still gets a call, you've been pushing the whole "Mac is getting superstar calls" narrative. I might've missed it, (as game threads can be quite long) but I've not noticed you apply that statement to any other Georgetown player, let alone an opposing player. Looking at the numbers, Mac averages 3.5 free-throw attempts per game... James 5.1, Jessie, 4.2, Josh 3.1. I'm not seeing a big discrepancy there. In fact, each guys minutes per game ranking matches up with their free throw attempt ranking. Mac is 3rd in minutes and 3rd in free throw attempts. Given how relentlessly he drives to the hole, it's actually a wonder he doesn't average more. He got some good whistles today, but throughout the course of the season I'd say he's been the victim of a bad whistle far more than he's been the beneficiary of a good one. Todays game the refs were calling everything, Pat and/or Mac recognized this and continually attacked the rim. It wasn't "superstar calls" it was recognizing the way the game is being called and using it to your advantage. That's intelligent and efficient basketball that you'd think the king of efficiency would appreciate. 23 points on 8 shots, it doesn't get much more efficient than that. Seems to me the whole "superstar calls" thing is a preemptive strike for future excuses to back up the original narrative that Mac is more or less terrible. When he's averaging 18-20 in a year or two, "He's not that good, he just gets tons of superstar calls, I've been saying it since his freshman year, take away all the unearned free throws and his efficiency rating is actually one of the worst in the country." That will more of less be the excuse. You claim to be a Georgetown fan, but it's clear you wanted them to lose. I've literally never seen a so called fan upset about a non call at the end of the game that would've benefited the opposing team and allowed them to tie it. If Mac and James were on the bench because they played terrible, and Greg and Jagan were the two with 20+ and the game ends that way, I highly doubt you are questioning the non call. Why? Cus in that case you are rooting for the win because it supports your narrative that Greg and Jagan are better. You'd rather lose and look smart than win and look like a fool. Also what kind of fan bets against their own team? Maybe you had money on Marquette is also why you were so upset.
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