hoyadimes
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Post by hoyadimes on Mar 9, 2019 18:43:16 GMT -5
I love the toughness the fellas displayed today but in all reality, Marquette simply failed to put us away as they missed too many shots. But I'll take it!!
I have no problem admitting I was a Derrickson to the NBA naysayer that was proven wrong as he worked his butt off to get into a decent situation.....But Jesse? Bruuuuuuuuh. No NBA hope at all. Being a stat monster is fine but to be so deficient at so many aspects of the game and to play without fire in such meaningful games your senior year when U have never sniffed the NCAA tourney? There is no excuse for that. At least he seems to be a good teammate as he was obviously excited for Jamorko's big shot. I can respect that.
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Post by gatormcclusky on Mar 9, 2019 18:56:20 GMT -5
I hear ya buddy, but I think you may be beating that contrarian drum a little hard... it's ok to just have fun and embrace rooting for this team in all their confounding, infuriating glory (even including a certain baby faced, angel wings tatted scoring machine)  Sorry not how I am with anything especially not sports. When the guys/team do something good I will point it out. When they don't I'll point that out as well. When I give my opinion it's what I think is best for the team. It's not from an agenda as I don't have one. I live on the west coast with no ties to anyone in the program. I root for this team hard and have traveled all over to watch them play. I want them to win every game and honsestly the losses used to kill me but all the losing has definitley softened that some. I just can't stand this mentality that no matter what we do it's right and if something goes against us it's a conspiracy. As I said it's more of a worldly problem but it's pretty bad here as well. I've always said this board needs a cheerleader section where those that only see things through Hoyas blinders can exist in that safe space and the others that don't can say what they think. Ok homes, you do you. But to paraphrase David St Hubbins, it's good to keep in mind that there's such a fine line between "realistic" and "relentless negativity". |
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Post by theboardkatt on Mar 9, 2019 18:57:32 GMT -5
Really enjoyed watching that game today. We had many opportunities to fold but the McClung drives kept us going late in the second half. Marquette simply missed their fair share of threes and some important FTs midway through the second half. Refs really need to do a better job letting the players play than calling these touch fouls on the perimeter and a lot of this off-ball garbage.
Govan's lack of intensity was glaring this game - from the play with 6-7 mins left where he fell to the ground down, Akinjo yelling at him to get his A@# back down the court, his slow return causing him to be out of position and foul The John for a possible and 1 I was almost speechless. Glad he scored on that putback down low with a minute left but barely had any intensity and think it was almost luck the ball wasn't stolen or that he even gathered it.
Credit to Ewing for the game plan down the stretch, great adjustment.
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hoyainla
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Post by hoyainla on Mar 9, 2019 19:07:51 GMT -5
I would love to know what stats were wrong? Please point them out. Honestly the stats haven't really changed. Before today we had the same KenPom ranking that we did last year. Our BE conference play was essentially the same as our OOC. Today was an awesome win but it was not some big turning the corner moment. It was the freshman playing ISO ball taking the same bad shots they have all year but today they went down at a rate that was so far out of the norm. That and the refs just making it a FT contest made it a fluke. I would love to know what everyone thought we did today fundamentally different today then the rest of the year. The one thing I saw was James playing great on the ball defense but other than that as I said it was a fluke shooting performance. I am glad for such a performance. I have won more money betting this team than any other year and I've been very successful in the past. It's honestly been laughably easy. To win money on this team you have to view them from a realistic not blinded POV. I was referring to your assessment of our freshman guards throughout the year. You still stand by those? Still like Mulmore and Dickerson’s efficiency numbers? I never liked Trey Dieckerson from the moment he signed. Don't put that on me lol. I also said that James's numbers weren't the upgrade over Mulmore that we all expected. James is clearly more talented and I would rather have him especially based on the age. As for the fresh guards my mind will not change based on the game today. I gave them credit and even said James played the most complete game of any Hoya this year, but as I said in my other post I didn't see anything drastically different from the rest of the year other than James's on ball defense. I was a huge James guy coming in but that is not going to make me bury my head in the sand and say he had a great year. Next year will hopefully be different. I hope every game he plays from here on out is like today. I am clearly an analytics/process not a results guy. I thought the piece that ran on Casual this year that showed why Trey shouldn't be starting because of the lineup efficiency stats was incredible. Most fans liked it because Trey was not a fan favorite and it reinforced what they wanted. I DMed the poster here that did it to do one for the freshman guards a while back. Maybe he is waiting for the end of the year or maybe he won't do it at all. I know that majority of fans don't care about analytics and most would rather just read all things positive. Casual gets grief all the time for running stuff that isn't completely positive. I have years of experience and I like to share it with the fans on here. I do feel that some although it may be a small minority actually enjoy it. It's not always what people want to read so it's easier to just question my fandom. |
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Post by hoyainla on Mar 9, 2019 19:10:19 GMT -5
Sorry not how I am with anything especially not sports. When the guys/team do something good I will point it out. When they don't I'll point that out as well. When I give my opinion it's what I think is best for the team. It's not from an agenda as I don't have one. I live on the west coast with no ties to anyone in the program. I root for this team hard and have traveled all over to watch them play. I want them to win every game and honsestly the losses used to kill me but all the losing has definitley softened that some. I just can't stand this mentality that no matter what we do it's right and if something goes against us it's a conspiracy. As I said it's more of a worldly problem but it's pretty bad here as well. I've always said this board needs a cheerleader section where those that only see things through Hoyas blinders can exist in that safe space and the others that don't can say what they think. Ok homes, you do you. But to paraphrase David St Hubbins, it's good to keep in mind that there's such a fine line between "realistic" and "relentless negativity". I am not always negative. I have given plenty of compliments. When I am saying someone should be starting over someone else I am clearly not completely negative. I am just not the fanboy of the fan favorites so most think I am negative all the time. |
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jwp91
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Post by jwp91 on Mar 9, 2019 19:16:01 GMT -5
Super happy with the win.
Anyone else concerned about the lack of ball movement on offense . We rarely passed the ball twice on any possession. In many case, we never passed it once. Fortunately shots were falling. I am concerned the offense tonight was a bit of fool’s gold.
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Post by sleepy on Mar 9, 2019 19:17:59 GMT -5
Ok homes, you do you. But to paraphrase David St Hubbins, it's good to keep in mind that there's such a fine line between "realistic" and "relentless negativity". I am not always negative. I have given plenty of compliments. When I am saying someone should be starting over someone else I am clearly not completely negative. I am just not the fanboy of the fan favorites so most think I am negative all the time. Saying someone should be starting over someone else is a net negative comment. The only close to positive comments from you are at best back handed compliments and at worst shade intended to criticize under the guise of positivity. Look you clearly have an agenda about certain Hoya related things and you are biased towards it. You either don't realize your bias or aren't able to admit it, as you certainly aren't an "objective" or even realistic fan. |
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Post by daveg023 on Mar 9, 2019 19:18:28 GMT -5
Super happy with the win. Anyone else concerned about the lack of ball movement on offense . We rarely passed the ball twice on any possession. In many case, we never passed it once. Fortunately shots were falling. I am concerned the offense tonight was a bit of fool’s gold. The end of the game was very one on one centric with James and Mac but to be honest that was our best offense tonight. There was a good swing pass for Pickett’s 3 though. I’d love to see us play like the Nova game though. That was our best offensive game all year in my opinion. |
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Post by gurked on Mar 9, 2019 19:21:11 GMT -5
Agree that 2 wins in BET punches a ticket to the Big Dance. 1 win will put us in the mix with many other bubble teams so it’ll be a crapshoot. No wins in BET and we’ll be lucky to take a train to Madison Square Garden.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 9, 2019 19:22:11 GMT -5
Super happy with the win. Anyone else concerned about the lack of ball movement on offense . We rarely passed the ball twice on any possession. In many case, we never passed it once. Fortunately shots were falling. I am concerned the offense tonight was a bit of fool’s gold. The end of the game was very one on one centric with James and Mac but to be honest that was our best offense tonight. There was a good swing pass for Pickett’s 3 though. I’d love to see us play like the Nova game though. That was our best offensive game all year in my opinion. Exactly. Patrick is astute enough to realize that you have to make in game adjustments. If the defense can't handle the guards one on one, you try to iso. That was what he was telling Mac with his arm around him before he went back in with 6 minutes left. |
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Post by JohnnyJones on Mar 9, 2019 19:22:14 GMT -5
I was referring to your assessment of our freshman guards throughout the year. You still stand by those? Still like Mulmore and Dickerson’s efficiency numbers? I never liked Trey Dieckerson from the moment he signed. Don't put that on me lol. I also said that James's numbers weren't the upgrade over Mulmore that we all expected. James is clearly more talented and I would rather have him especially based on the age. As for the fresh guards my mind will not change based on the game today. I gave them credit and even said James played the most complete game of any Hoya this year, but as I said in my other post I didn't see anything drastically different from the rest of the year other than James's on ball defense. I was a huge James guy coming in but that is not going to make me bury my head in the sand and say he had a great year. Next year will hopefully be different. I hope every game he plays from here on out is like today. I am clearly an analytics/process not a results guy. I thought the piece that ran on Casual this year that showed why Trey shouldn't be starting because of the lineup efficiency stats was incredible. Most fans liked it because Trey was not a fan favorite and it reinforced what they wanted. I DMed the poster here that did it to do one for the freshman guards a while back. Maybe he is waiting for the end of the year or maybe he won't do it at all. I know that majority of fans don't care about analytics and most would rather just read all things positive. Casual gets grief all the time for running stuff that isn't completely positive. I have years of experience and I like to share it with the fans on here. I do feel that some although it may be a small minority actually enjoy it. It's not always what people want to read so it's easier to just question my fandom. Not based on todays game or result, but just overall, it turns out you and your analytics were wrong. Really wrong. No shame in just admitting that. And I love Casual Hoya and have no problem with negativity when it is warranted. Your post regarding the last play of the game today says it all. |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 9, 2019 19:23:45 GMT -5
Confidence making 3pt shot by Pickett We could use 10 or 12 points from Jamorko today. I am rarely right. But when I am . . . |
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Post by daveg023 on Mar 9, 2019 19:26:10 GMT -5
Usually I feel like I can sense early if we can win a game. This feels like we will have a shot down the stretch. Even when were down against PC and Xavier early, I had a good feeling. Today there’s some of that feeling. Now cue the 15-0 run. Hope my senses are on point again Thursday in a good way... |
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 9, 2019 19:30:04 GMT -5
I will go back and read the thread but just finished the game on DVR and wanted to say this was easily the most tense I’ve been during a game for at least two years. I really wanted this win badly and so happy our guys came through. 9-9 is a real accomplishment for this team and Ewing regardless of whatever happens in the post season.
I’ve been critical of Akinjo at times but he came up huge today, as did McClung. Govan has another poor game but had the clutch rebound and free throws at the end.
Most importantly, we had a close tough game and came out on top. I am looking forward to seeing us play on Thursday at MSG.
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Post by FHillsNYHoya on Mar 9, 2019 19:32:07 GMT -5
Ok homes, you do you. But to paraphrase David St Hubbins, it's good to keep in mind that there's such a fine line between "realistic" and "relentless negativity". I am not always negative. I have given plenty of compliments. When I am saying someone should be starting over someone else I am clearly not completely negative. I am just not the fanboy of the fan favorites so most think I am negative all the time. You said earlier this year that for this year, you preferred a Mosley/Malinowski backcourt over Mackinjo. |
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Post by gatormcclusky on Mar 9, 2019 19:35:11 GMT -5
Super happy with the win. Anyone else concerned about the lack of ball movement on offense . We rarely passed the ball twice on any possession. In many case, we never passed it once. Fortunately shots were falling. I am concerned the offense tonight was a bit of fool’s gold. The end of the game was very one on one centric with James and Mac but to be honest that was our best offense tonight. There was a good swing pass for Pickett’s 3 though. I’d love to see us play like the Nova game though. That was our best offensive game all year in my opinion. yeah I agree that just going iso down the stretch looked like the best strategy today, but like you said Villanova was a great offensive performance and ought to be the blueprint for the rest of the season. I also agree with jwp though that the ball movement seems to be pretty limited on most possessions. Part of it is the simple sets that Pat runs where there are usually only a couple of off ball actions in each play and part of it is that James is extremely ball dominant PG and tends to dribble out a lot of clock. But I think another big part of it is that the lack of a strong leader on this team has led to a lack of a defined pecking order offensively. A lot of times guys just randomly take it on themselves to try to make stuff happen, like that sequence of terrible drives late in the first half, rather than focusing on getting the ball to the strongest scoring threats. |
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Post by bamahoya11 on Mar 9, 2019 19:37:06 GMT -5
I am so proud of what our guys achieved today. It's a testament to everyone on this team the grit they showed after an awful mid-week performance in Chicago. Akinjo was absolutely outstanding. Watching him and Mac made me excited about where this team can go. It was also really rewarding to see Pickett make several absolutely huge plays at the end of this game.
Hoya Saxa -- on to the Big Apple!
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Post by rlo24 on Mar 9, 2019 19:42:08 GMT -5
I hope that the Akinjo / Mac offense game plan continues in BET. Don't sit either for those long stretches we've seen happen most games this year. Put it on their shoulders rather than trying the "Jesse post up" offense that come at beginning of one of the two halves
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 9, 2019 19:43:38 GMT -5
Usually I feel like I can sense early if we can win a game. This feels like we will have a shot down the stretch. Even when were down against PC and Xavier early, I had a good feeling. Today there’s some of that feeling. Now cue the 15-0 run. Hope my senses are on point again Thursday in a good way... You are the man! |
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Post by JohnnyJones on Mar 9, 2019 19:49:54 GMT -5
I hope that the Akinjo / Mac offense game plan continues in BET. Don't sit either for those long stretches we've seen happen most games this year. Put it on their shoulders rather than trying the "Jesse post up" offense that come at beginning of one of the two halves Agree 100%. |
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