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Post by johnnysnowplow on Feb 21, 2021 9:18:38 GMT -5
Everybody wanted to bash this guy for having only one move earlier in the season. You can see now that he has mastered that move he’s starting to add other things to his repertoire. Development is often gradual and incremental, especially for big men.
If he continues to work on rounding out his game, he’s gonna be a stud for the next two years. Continuing to get more comfortable away from the low post is going to be crucial is opening up driving lanes for guys like Mohammed and Riley.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Feb 21, 2021 10:05:30 GMT -5
He needs to kick it out once in a while to keep defenses honest. They seem to collapse on him knowing it’s going up. It would free him up to score even more.
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Post by prhoya on Feb 21, 2021 10:30:48 GMT -5
Exactly. The obvious next step to his game is passing it out, not developing a jumper. Last year in part-time duty, he had 11 assits all year. This year, he has 2!!!!
If he passes it out, then he’ll open up the post game.
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Post by hoyaguy on Feb 22, 2021 23:17:42 GMT -5
Him passing out will be extremely important going forward, especially for next year because until we hear about seniors staying, I am going to assume we won’t be the greatest from 3 so getting open looks by him passing it out will help a lot to maximize chances at making the 3 and to open up the game for him more.
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Post by prhoya on Feb 22, 2021 23:25:17 GMT -5
Him passing out will be extremely important going forward, especially for next year because until we hear about seniors staying, I am going to assume we won’t be the greatest from 3 so getting open looks by him passing it out will help a lot to maximize chances at making the 3 and to open up the game for him more. Unless Qudus or Tim learns how to pass it out before next season, Ryan might be our best passing center next year.
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Post by dchoya72 on Feb 23, 2021 8:46:43 GMT -5
I'm still wondering when Malcolm Wilson will shift gears. When the game will click for him.
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Post by professorhoya on Feb 23, 2021 8:50:01 GMT -5
I'm still wondering when Malcolm Wilson will shift gears. When the game will click for him. Probably year 4 or 5.
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Post by wponds on Feb 23, 2021 23:19:12 GMT -5
New career high in points (18). Aside from working on passing out of the post, let's add not putting the ball on the ground to the list of what to work on this offseason
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Post by TrueHoyaBlue on Feb 23, 2021 23:35:43 GMT -5
I'm still wondering when Malcolm Wilson will shift gears. When the game will click for him. Probably year 4 or 5. I’m still dreaming of the Hilton Armstrong trajectory for Malcolm’s career.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Feb 24, 2021 0:04:19 GMT -5
Him passing out will be extremely important going forward, especially for next year because until we hear about seniors staying, I am going to assume we won’t be the greatest from 3 so getting open looks by him passing it out will help a lot to maximize chances at making the 3 and to open up the game for him more. Unless Qudus or Tim learns how to pass it out before next season, Ryan might be our best passing center next year. He did get an assist! But yes, a long way to go.
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Post by hoyaboya on Feb 24, 2021 0:08:34 GMT -5
Unless Qudus or Tim learns how to pass it out before next season, Ryan might be our best passing center next year. He did get an assist! But yes, a long way to go. 100X more talented than Dante Harris and far more likely to have a professional career. But let’s keep praising the try hard little guy and be snarky about the actual talent on the roster.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Feb 24, 2021 0:18:13 GMT -5
A lot of things for Q to work on this offseason. Recognizing double teams and passing out of the post. Being in position defensively (i.e. not overhelping, not going for shot fakes, boxing out, general awareness). And forget range at this point; get in the weight room so those missed dunks become makes. And bring Tim.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Feb 24, 2021 0:18:44 GMT -5
He did get an assist! But yes, a long way to go. 100X more talented than Dante Harris and far more likely to have a professional career. But let’s keep praising the try hard little guy and be snarky about the actual talent on the roster. I was complimenting Qudus on the assist - no snark. While also acknowledging the dude needs to learn to pass more. I like Qudus. He's not the defender I would like around the rim, but I hope he can improve that. He's just a little slow to react there. His offense is clunky looking, but he's actually super effective when he doesn't dribble. I don't really care that Dante's pro prospects are somewhat limited by his height. In fact, I view it as an asset, since he's probably a four year player. Talented four year players are in short supply. But he has the quickness. I'm really beginning to wonder if Dante had sex with your wife or something. This is kind of insane. This is a Qudus Wahab thread and you are bringing Harris. This has to be about Akinjo -- he's the only dude that makes people so crazy on Hoyatalk. I'll be super disappointed if this is merely height, or about Ewing. Only some weird obsession with a departed PG can make this make any kind of sense.
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Post by calhoya on Feb 24, 2021 8:03:46 GMT -5
Most frustrating player on the team for me after my expectations were raised by all the hype. I listen to commentators talk about potential and I watch and just think he is still quite aways off from that point. Ewing has to find a way to cure his bad habits, like bringing the ball down, putting it on the floor, not making the kickout pass and taking too long to make a decision as to shoot or pass. That said he's a physical monster and if Ewing can coach him up and get him a few more offensive moves--like a decent face-up shot from 8-10 feet, he could be a real force next year. Agree that he will always be limited on defense by a lack of quickness, though learning to not bite on the pump fake should be doable. After Govan and Yurtseven, I am just getting used to a completely different post player on offense.
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Post by bostonfan on Feb 24, 2021 8:32:14 GMT -5
A lot of things for Q to work on this offseason. Recognizing double teams and passing out of the post. Being in position defensively (i.e. not overhelping, not going for shot fakes, boxing out, general awareness). And forget range at this point; get in the weight room so those missed dunks become makes. And bring Tim. Q is not a fully finished player at this point, but he is a really good big man for the college game. He has some more skill development he can add to this game and develop better game recognition about how defenses are playing him and when he is getting doubled, but overall he is one of the better big men in the Big East and if his growth as a player continues he will become one of the better big men in the country. I am not sure how his game translates into the NBA. The one thing that he does lack is elite quickness and explosiveness for his size, which seems to be what NBA guys are looking for in big guys (along with the ability to make a few jump shots and the occasional 3). Putting aside his professional future, he is a very important piece of the Hoyas program now and a player they can continue to build around.
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Post by aleutianhoya on Feb 24, 2021 8:44:06 GMT -5
Most frustrating player on the team for me after my expectations were raised by all the hype. I listen to commentators talk about potential and I watch and just think he is still quite aways off from that point. Ewing has to find a way to cure his bad habits, like bringing the ball down, putting it on the floor, not making the kickout pass and taking too long to make a decision as to shoot or pass. That said he's a physical monster and if Ewing can coach him up and get him a few more offensive moves--like a decent face-up shot from 8-10 feet, he could be a real force next year. Agree that he will always be limited on defense by a lack of quickness, though learning to not bite on the pump fake should be doable. After Govan and Yurtseven, I am just getting used to a completely different post player on offense. The lack of burst is what it is. But he will learn to recognize the doubles and react appropriately. He may not be Arvydas Sabonas in the post finding an open layup, but at minimum, he'll figure out how to find the open guy consistently. It's not hard once you see it a bunch. But I think his consistency on field goals is highly, highly underappreciated. Sure, he gets some uncontested dunks (and unfortunately has missed some) but a fairly significant percentage of his attempts are contested post moves. And he makes them at a very, very high level. In his last ten games he's shooting 61% from the field. That's a tough skill and one that is not easily taught.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Feb 24, 2021 10:54:40 GMT -5
Most frustrating player on the team for me after my expectations were raised by all the hype. I listen to commentators talk about potential and I watch and just think he is still quite aways off from that point. Ewing has to find a way to cure his bad habits, like bringing the ball down, putting it on the floor, not making the kickout pass and taking too long to make a decision as to shoot or pass. That said he's a physical monster and if Ewing can coach him up and get him a few more offensive moves--like a decent face-up shot from 8-10 feet, he could be a real force next year. Agree that he will always be limited on defense by a lack of quickness, though learning to not bite on the pump fake should be doable. After Govan and Yurtseven, I am just getting used to a completely different post player on offense. The lack of burst is what it is. But he will learn to recognize the doubles and react appropriately. He may not be Arvydas Sabonas in the post finding an open layup, but at minimum, he'll figure out how to find the open guy consistently. It's not hard once you see it a bunch. But I think his consistency on field goals is highly, highly underappreciated. Sure, he gets some uncontested dunks (and unfortunately has missed some) but a fairly significant percentage of his attempts are contested post moves. And he makes them at a very, very high level. In his last ten games he's shooting 61% from the field. That's a tough skill and one that is not easily taught. I have hope that he becomes a pretty dominant offensive big over the next two years. He's already converting at a good rate, and while he needs to add some skills from basically zero, it's not unlikely he learns some basic passing that will open a whole lot up. Qudus without the turnovers is a pretty great offensive asset. I continue to be a bit baffled by how bad his defense is at times. How long has it been since we've had a capable rim protector? I would take Mikael Hopkins level of defense at this point, even though I was hoping for Roy Hibbert. From my eyes, it's a lack of quick reaction timing, and I suspect that never changes.
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Post by professorhoya on Feb 24, 2021 10:59:07 GMT -5
How long has he been playing basketball? Everything I've read said he picked up the game relatively late.
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Post by rhw485 on Feb 24, 2021 11:11:52 GMT -5
I have hope that he becomes a pretty dominant offensive big over the next two years. He's already converting at a good rate, and while he needs to add some skills from basically zero, it's not unlikely he learns some basic passing that will open a whole lot up. Qudus without the turnovers is a pretty great offensive asset. I continue to be a bit baffled by how bad his defense is at times. How long has it been since we've had a capable rim protector? I would take Mikael Hopkins level of defense at this point, even though I was hoping for Roy Hibbert. From my eyes, it's a lack of quick reaction timing, and I suspect that never changes. I 100% agree on the defense with Q. But to your point, I think we have to ask if there's something just more fundamental about what we're doing with our centers. Basically every center has taken the brunt of our defensive issues. Started w Govan, who was legitimately slow footed. And we heard Yurt7 was dominating practice and would be a massive upgrade defensively, even if that got back to respectability. And then...he wasn't...but man Q is so much quicker than Yurt7 and he'll anchor the defense....until he can't. Now we've stopped hard hedging, and I think that's helped, we don't give up nearly as many 3s on the backside as a result. Seeing UConn do it was a fun reminder of the pros / cons. They picked up a ton of fouls, but they were also able to pair it with aggressive on ball defense that we were never able to do. In their system it made more sense but even Dante split it a few times and their frontline was in foul trouble the whole game. It neutralized Blair but I don't think it works against a Creighton or Nova but would have to go back and watch those matchups. And big picture our defensive efficiency numbers keep creeping up. Even last night, Adjusted Def Eff of 92.8 which now brings us to 62nd in country per Bart Torvik. But I honestly feel like Ewing's scheme expects every center to be as good as he was, he made a point of highlighting Q's 9 blocks vs St Johns saying you need that every game, and it just gets him out of position and chasing. I honestly thought Tim did a much better job of actually committing to drop coverage last night and eliminated the layups and dunks for a bit. Now maybe it's intentional, but Q definitely comes out farther. Maybe it's bc Ewing thinks he can get back quicker so encourages it but he gets stuck in between too often.
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Post by aleutianhoya on Feb 24, 2021 11:31:37 GMT -5
I have hope that he becomes a pretty dominant offensive big over the next two years. He's already converting at a good rate, and while he needs to add some skills from basically zero, it's not unlikely he learns some basic passing that will open a whole lot up. Qudus without the turnovers is a pretty great offensive asset. I continue to be a bit baffled by how bad his defense is at times. How long has it been since we've had a capable rim protector? I would take Mikael Hopkins level of defense at this point, even though I was hoping for Roy Hibbert. From my eyes, it's a lack of quick reaction timing, and I suspect that never changes. I 100% agree on the defense with Q. But to your point, I think we have to ask if there's something just more fundamental about what we're doing with our centers. Basically every center has taken the brunt of our defensive issues. Started w Govan, who was legitimately slow footed. And we heard Yurt7 was dominating practice and would be a massive upgrade defensively, even if that got back to respectability. And then...he wasn't...but man Q is so much quicker than Yurt7 and he'll anchor the defense....until he can't. Now we've stopped hard hedging, and I think that's helped, we don't give up nearly as many 3s on the backside as a result. Seeing UConn do it was a fun reminder of the pros / cons. They picked up a ton of fouls, but they were also able to pair it with aggressive on ball defense that we were never able to do. In their system it made more sense but even Dante split it a few times and their frontline was in foul trouble the whole game. It neutralized Blair but I don't think it works against a Creighton or Nova but would have to go back and watch those matchups. And big picture our defensive efficiency numbers keep creeping up. Even last night, Adjusted Def Eff of 92.8 which now brings us to 62nd in country per Bart Torvik. But I honestly feel like Ewing's scheme expects every center to be as good as he was, he made a point of highlighting Q's 9 blocks vs St Johns saying you need that every game, and it just gets him out of position and chasing. I honestly thought Tim did a much better job of actually committing to drop coverage last night and eliminated the layups and dunks for a bit. Now maybe it's intentional, but Q definitely comes out farther. Maybe it's bc Ewing thinks he can get back quicker so encourages it but he gets stuck in between too often. None of those bigs had or have vertical burst (or lateral burst). We haven't had a guy like that in a long time. (Roy didn't either, but he made up for it with sheer size and timing.) So, they're going to struggle against guys that do. I'm not really sure any sort of scheme is going to do much to help that (aside from trying to keep them closer to the basket, which we do now). You're right that UConn's scheme showed the pros and cons of the hard hedge or blitz. We took advantage at times...and it hurt us at times. We probably didn't get as many cheap fouls as we should have against us, given how the game was being called. Some of that is that Blair isn't really capable of attacking the blitz. What I would hope is that by the end of the year, you've done enough PNR work that you can effectively tailor your PNR D not just game-to-game but individual opposing player. If you were defending us, you would always hard hedge or blitz Blair. You'd try to never ever switch on Dante. And so on.
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