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Post by RockawayHoya on Mar 1, 2019 4:23:58 GMT -5
GU moves from 11th out to 10th out on the Matrix. Important to keep in mind the Matrix only gives credit for appearances in the brackets. From an anecdotal standpoint, I've seen us appear far more often in the First Four Out than the Next Four Out or even unlisted. Those results won't show in the Matrix. Thursday's bubble games include: 7th to last team in: Arizona St. at Oregon (a loss puts them in the First Four and maybe close to the cut line) 4th to last team in: Minnesota at Northwestern (would be damaging loss that probably knocks them out of the field) 12 seed (AQ): Belmont at UT Martin (a loss here clinches the OVC as a 1-bid league if it hasn't already, but if they and Murray St. go undefeated till the title game, bubble teams will be sweating) 3rd team out: St. Mary's vs. Portland (any non-Gonzaga missteps end their at-large hopes) 5th team out: UNC Greensboro at The Citadel (a bad loss here takes them out of at-large consideration for sure) 6th team out: Nebraska at Michigan (not a whole lot of meat to Nebraska's profile, just wins at Clemson and Indiana) 8th team out: San Francisco vs. San Diego (see St. Mary's) ASU and Nebraska got taken behind the woodshed and USF sees their at-large bubble popped.
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aggypryd
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Post by aggypryd on Mar 1, 2019 10:16:09 GMT -5
I'm thinking we need to win-out and make it to the semis or the final of the conference tourney to get an at-large bid.
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Filo
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Post by Filo on Mar 1, 2019 10:51:26 GMT -5
Patrick Ewing is not JT3 (no disrespect). We have no idea how his teams would perform relative to their seed because it's just his second year with the program. Some would argue his team this year has already exceeded expectations since they are in the bubble discussion and they are hopefully going to finish better than the projected 9th place in the BE. So I hope that isn't taken into consideration. Georgetown was picked 7th in the pre season coaches poll That's so odd. Could have sworn there were a bunch of preseason rankings for the team that were pretty low, but my memory was faulty in that regard. As far as the history of tournament under-performance, I don't think that would come into play even remotely. On the contrary, if intangibles factored in, I think they favor the Hoyas. Seems to me a little bit of a buzz is starting to brew about the team. Heck, Wally Scerbiak called them fun to watch the other day in the studio. When was the last time fun and the Hoyas were mentioned in the same sentence?
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Post by KHoyaNYC on Mar 1, 2019 10:55:54 GMT -5
I'm thinking we need to win-out and make it to the semis or the final of the conference tourney to get an at-large bid. Barring winning the BE tourney, I think it is 4 more wins in any combination. Do that and we will get at least 2 more quality wins and it will be too hard to keep us out.
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Post by HoyaDr on Mar 1, 2019 11:37:14 GMT -5
I'm thinking we need to win-out and make it to the semis or the final of the conference tourney to get an at-large bid. Barring winning the BE tourney, I think it is 4 more wins in any combination. Do that and we will get at least 2 more quality wins and it will be too hard to keep us out. I think 3 games and we could possibly sneak in, but it would be unlikely. We have to win the DePaul game, and then either the Seton Hall or Marquette game. At 9-9, I think we would avoid playing Wednesday if we do that. Then win one game in the BE tourney. If we beat SJU, Seton Hall, or Xavier on Thursday, that's another quality win. If we lose to Nova or Marquette in the tournament the following game I don't think it would hurt us too much, especially if we keep it close. If we win on Thursday, we should definitely be in. Obviously, in reality we should be taking it one game at a time and winning on Saturday would be a great first step. The bubble conversation about us in the media would continue to intensify which is always a great thing even if we don't get an at large bid. We would have exceeded expectations for this season IMO in this case. I honestly expected NIT for this team in the preseason. I was high on Mac and his fit in Ewing's system and thought Govan returning as a senior would at the minimum push us towards NIT. After the Villanova win, I'll admit I had hope for a NCAA run and reacted badly after the Bulter and Seton Hall losses. Amazing we still have a chance, albeit a small one.
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jwp91
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Post by jwp91 on Mar 1, 2019 12:16:25 GMT -5
This thread is a psychological test of one type or another.
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Filo
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Post by Filo on Mar 1, 2019 15:07:33 GMT -5
This thread is a psychological test of one type or another. Cognitive dissonance?
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Mar 1, 2019 15:44:11 GMT -5
This thread is a psychological test of one type or another. Cognitive dissonance? It's a good measure of whether you are an optimist or a pessimist.
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Post by jctnhoya4ever on Mar 1, 2019 16:05:31 GMT -5
Nobody really expected the Hoyas to get a ncaa bid really this year about everyone said nit and 7-8 conference wins would be a good year. So I think they have progressed well as of now. 2 more conference wins already than last year.17 wins is 2 more overall than last season.we still have at least 4 games to go.if they can get the next 2 that would really be a accomplishment for this team starting 3 freshman. Whatever the Hoyas do from here is a improvement that is what I am happy with.do I want them to get a ncaa bid absolutely but if we don’t,we can hopefully get a nit bid and win the whole nit tournament. I rather get the ncaa bid but I am really happy with the Hoyas progress this year.go gu
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Post by jctnhoya4ever on Mar 1, 2019 16:30:47 GMT -5
I was checking bracketology on espn fox and cbs sports all updated today March 1 ok joe lunarddi has Hoyas as first four out.seton hall last 4 in.fox didn’t have us as first four or second four out.cbs jerry palm had us in first four out. They seem to be some think we got a chance to get in.but you have to keep winning at this point as of right now.we just need to win tomorrow and not worry about anything else except winning tomorrow. Go from there. Go Hoyas.
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Mar 1, 2019 17:30:22 GMT -5
My hope/goal for the team was to hit .500 (9-9) in conference this season, a +4 game improvement over last year. I am very happy that this goal is still very much attainable with 2 winnable games on Saturday/Wednesday. I admit, I did not think 9-9 would get us into the NCAA picture, but it actually might be good enough if it is backed up by a strong BET (probably a finals appearance required).
I think 10-8 gets us dancing with 1 BET win to seal a bid.
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hoyafan23
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Post by hoyafan23 on Mar 1, 2019 21:26:42 GMT -5
Big loss by Dayton!
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Post by hoyaatheart55 on Mar 1, 2019 21:36:28 GMT -5
We’re goin dancing baby I can feel it.
But really, an NIT bid would be exciting too.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 1, 2019 23:36:54 GMT -5
Great Job Coach David Cox!
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 2, 2019 11:47:46 GMT -5
Hoyas back up to NET 71 after Dayton drops from 66 to 73. In related news Providence is up to 77 after swapping spots with Colorado.
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Post by daveg023 on Mar 2, 2019 13:28:00 GMT -5
Should be rooting for LSU over Bama and Mich st over Indiana right now.
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Post by wponds on Mar 2, 2019 13:55:21 GMT -5
Indiana wins 63-62
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Post by hoyaboya on Mar 2, 2019 13:55:42 GMT -5
Very bad news for our at-large hopes.
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Post by wponds on Mar 2, 2019 13:57:12 GMT -5
They're an interesting case. Lost 12 of last 15, but three wins are Michigan and now twice over MSU. 15-14 with games against Illinois (road) and Rutgers (home) remaining other than conference tournament
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Post by daveg023 on Mar 2, 2019 14:05:22 GMT -5
Hate to say it but Indiana (assuming they win their next two) is in over us. That’ll be tough to swallow if we put ourselves in position for it to matter.
I still am of a mind that we aren’t in unless
1.) We finish 3-0 Or 2.) Win the BET
Maybe an fighting chance at 10-8 and a BET finals appearance, if that included a win over Marquette or Nova, but if we don’t get another quality win I just don’t see us getting there with only 3 Q1 wins.
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