jwp91
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Post by jwp91 on Jan 3, 2019 0:24:38 GMT -5
Just got back from the game. A couple of observations:
Akinjo/Greg/Pickett/Leblanc/Govan were an absolute problem for Butler. Their length and superior athleticism gave Butler fits. I would stick with this line-up and use Mac to add the scoring punch to the 2nd line-up which struggled mightily today. I am one of Mac’s biggest fans, but that line-up tonight worked.
I have been pretty hard on Jagan but he shut down Baldwin for periods in the 2nd half. Meanwhile, Akinjo was getting abused by him. When both were in the game, I was surprised that James was covering him. Jagan did great tonight except when he got anxious about getting the ball in position to shoot an open three and chose to travel instead.
OMG....Greg was unbelievable tonight. He might not shoot 86% from 3 every night, but he is now shooting 50% on the season.
I thought Pickett gave us a lot tonight even without the points.
Jesse did a great job of staying out of foul trouble. That was one of the ways we lose the game. He played with only 1 foul for most of the game.
I am starting to wonder if Akinjo has a conditioning issue. In addition to his sitting on the chair well past everyone else coming out of time outs as several have discussed, he was the first player from either team to start putting his hands on his knees. This is something to watch.
This was a game that last year we would have lost. I am proud of the team for getting it done.
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Post by hoyalaw33 on Jan 3, 2019 0:29:45 GMT -5
Rewatched. I must say, I think the play of the game comes at 9:54 when we are up 57-53 and Butler with the ball. Having just gotten 2 missed FTs by Leblanc and a nice little 4-0 spurt to energize the crowd, Baldwin drives hard left and Mosely beats him to the spot to draw a charge. Following possession, Malinowski 3. Then another deep 2 on the next possession. Lead never got that close again. Think he cost us the Cuse game, but I'd give him a half point here in the win column because he started that sequence. Nice to see that for the kid as he plays a very important (and underappreciated) role on this team.
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Post by HamptonHoya on Jan 3, 2019 4:19:30 GMT -5
This team really does have depth. LeBlanc has earned his starting job and won't go back to the bench Pickett has been much more effective defensively than last year - and we all hope his O returns...needs confidence Blair has proven to be a valuable contributor in limited minutes off the bench. KJ provides energy, defense, some rebounding... and gives us good minutes Malinowski has been getting more minutes since the 7th game of the season, including 31 and 32 in the last two games. He should keep getting serious minutes. Plays smart ball - shows his experience.. With all the youngsters on this team, he is a valuable guy to have on the floor Mourning should have to work his way back to minutes... once he returns from that nasty head injury. Take your time though... head injuries are nothing to fool around with. Mosely provides experience and D, but still makes me nervous on O. He can def continue to help this team though. Jessie, James, Mac, Josh and Jamorko should continue to start for the time being. That's my view anyway. Others chime in and lets continue to compare thoughts I like the fact that this team is versatile. At the beginning of the game, Govan couldn't hit anything but the squad still had the lead. You knew it was just a matter of time before he contributed. Your starting five is fine. I believe we should have faith in Coach that he is going to do the right thing. His offense is exciting, his recruits are aggressive, his defense is coming around. I don't believe he gets enough credit for being the architect of this team, but that is alright,the season is still young. Just My Opinion |
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Post by HamptonHoya on Jan 3, 2019 5:04:50 GMT -5
I heard that Greg was a scholarship player for this season. Also, in a play style which relies heavily on depth, it makes sense, at least to me. Also, he's playing Govan and Mourning a lot and those were JT3 guys. He's a shooter that the team has lacked for years, adding one makes a lot of sense. Pat's gone out and gotten shooters who fit the style of play like a Jahvon Blair and Greg fits the style. Makes sense in my eyes. Honestly I'm not certain if he's on scholarship but the scholarship chart in the recruiting board has him as a walk on. If he was so wanted by Pat why was he getting the second least minutes of the rotation guys? He's been highly efficient and needed all year. I am up for other explanations of how this could be. I've give the only one that makes sense to me. As far as Trey he may have been a JT3 guy but he really wasn't. He was here because his dad is Alonzo Mourning. He was even rumored to transfer when JT3 was going to stay because he got limited playing time but stayed on the team when Pat was announced. Everyone knows Pat and Alonzo are friends. I think it's safe to say Trey is a Pat guy. As for Govan let's be real. He's not going to sit his best player. I am disappointed in your post for a couple of reasons. 1) you can't/don't give Coach credit for bringing in talent he sees best fit for HIS team and can't/don't give him credit for his rotation and playing time. It doesn't matter what he does, it isn't going to be enough for some people. I am glad he has always had tough skin as a player and now obviously as a coach. He is going to win and lose on his own. 2) you don't believe we, as fellow posters, are intelligent enough to pick and choose what post/opinions we like and dislike vs the poster. You make some astute observations and i/we give you credit for those. In my opinion, you don't care for Coach or most of his decisions. The are many examples of this, take your pick. Gonna be a long season for you. |
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Post by FrostbackHoya on Jan 3, 2019 5:40:27 GMT -5
A really, really good supermarket! But it’s also Ryerson University’s Fieldhouse and hockey arena. Although I must admit I don’t know if RU basketball plays their home games there. RU is actually a high level (for Canada) Uni team. |
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Post by FrostbackHoya on Jan 3, 2019 5:45:20 GMT -5
guhoyas.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=491Jahvon, as well as having a fantastic last name, was born & raised in Brampton, a Toronto suburb. Hoyas should make another trip north to Maple Leaf Gardens for him! Jagan was born in Canada? No, Jahvon Blair. No idea if Jagan Mosely has any Canadian ties, but highly doubtful. He seems to be all New Jersey. |
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Post by Elvado on Jan 3, 2019 5:54:23 GMT -5
Jagan was born in Canada? No, Jahvon Blair. No idea if Jagan Mosely has any Canadian ties, but highly doubtful. He seems to be all New Jersey. Mosely certainly handles the ball as if he were on ice skates... |
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Jan 3, 2019 6:16:54 GMT -5
really good road win especially when Butler attempts 22 more shots (turnovers and offensive rebounds). great defensive effort. hopefully they can keep it up saturday vs the johnnies. should be a fun game with lots of points.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jan 3, 2019 7:48:25 GMT -5
Jagan was born in Canada? No, Jahvon Blair. No idea if Jagan Mosely has any Canadian ties, but highly doubtful. He seems to be all New Jersey. Isn't Jersey where most Canadians end up when they retire and move South?😉 |
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Post by calhoya on Jan 3, 2019 8:43:28 GMT -5
Everyone on this team is growing and improving. How fast that happens is going to decide whether they are ready for a top 5 finish in the BE. The debate over who should start when McClung and Mourning are healthy is really missing the point. This is the deepest team the Hoyas have had in years and if you step back from the afterglow of Malinowski's big night, you will realize that he is just the latest bench player to come in and have a great game and make a vital contribution. LeBlanc has done it all year. Kaleb, Mosley and Blair have been vital to recent wins. Even Carter has provided important minutes with Mourning out.
I do not know what happens if McClung or Mourning were not injured, but that is not relevant. What is important is for Ewing to continue to utilize the bench even after the two players return. Depth is an asset that most teams do not have and it is critical if the coach wants to keep playing at this tempo. I believe that the sudden inability to hit FTs has alot to do with the tired legs of some of the players rather than an inability to shoot the FT and this can be fixed by keeping a steady stream of fresh legs in the game.
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Post by This Just In on Jan 3, 2019 9:03:31 GMT -5
I would say no. And if I am correct some people on this board did not want Greg Malinowski starting. I don't think so either. As much as everyone wants to give Pat credit for bringing in Greg I think he might have lucked into this one. I think Greg who was obviously an academic wanted to come to Georgetown more than Pat going out and "finding" him. He's not even on scholarship. It makes no sense for Pat to bring in essentially a grad transfer at not a position of need and play him at the end of the rotation if he was really enamored by him. The minutes Greg got before the injury falls in line with how Pat treats old JT3 players. The guys that Pat is solely responsible for get the first crack and plenty of minutes. As I said this is what every person in sports management does so I am not singling out Pat. It's just the game works. I know this will go over like most of my stuff on here but whatever.I would not worry about that. You've got credibility. You have been dead on right about 2 things: 1. The Akinjo/McClung back court is bad defensively 2. You have been on the Greg Malinowski getting more minutes bandwagon from the get go - Which now, everyone has jumped on the Greg Malinowski bandwagon |
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Post by LCPolo18 on Jan 3, 2019 9:30:16 GMT -5
What on earth are toy talking about. You just lack foresight and need immediate gratification and have an axe to grind with McClung. This is utter bullocks and just fulfilling some weird need for you undermined anything positive about Ewing. He l's not a traditional walk on in any sense as he was on scholarship last year. He wouldn't be on the team if Ewing didn't want him on the team and he certainly wouldn't be playing and starting if it weren't for Ewing. We certainly wouldn't be running plays designed for him. You just try to find the negative even in positive moments. Go away and comeback after we lose to St Johns and you can find first half rotation to pin it on. Malinowski came here cause of Ewing. We couldn't get someone like Malinowkski to come here for what 5-7 years under III and Malinowski would have fit perfect in the Princeton cause he can hit the open shot. It’s actually more likely that Malinowski came to Georgetown because of Coach Akbar Waheed, not necessarily because of Ewing. Waheed recruited him out of high school and had a good relationship with Greg and his family. |
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Jan 3, 2019 9:39:55 GMT -5
This was a great win. This team is hard to figure out, but it seems like we definitely “play up” when we have tougher games in better (and more hostile) environments. I thought our defense last night was among the best it has been all year. Everyone seemed to have more energy and intensity, and I actually think Govan’s defensive performance was pretty good.
Malinowski reminded me of players “on fire” in NBA Jam. The guy was really on last night and instrumental to the win. I wouldn’t mind seeing him continue to start but either way he’s showing he deserves minutes as our best three point shooter thus far.
Overall, I thought our passing was among the best it’s been all year, as well. Crisp, well targeted, and people seemed to find the right man in the right moment. I also thought we had a lot better motion on offense than in recent games.
While the last couple of minutes had me worried, we were able to pull it out. The team clearly got rattled a bit by Butler’s late pressure but that’s something we can work on.
Given how well we shot FTs all year, I have to think last night was a blip on that and I’m not overly concerned.
Any road win in the Big East is fantastic. Great way to start the season.
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Post by NCHoya on Jan 3, 2019 9:58:12 GMT -5
I would say no. And if I am correct some people on this board did not want Greg Malinowski starting. I don't think so either. As much as everyone wants to give Pat credit for bringing in Greg I think he might have lucked into this one. I think Greg who was obviously an academic wanted to come to Georgetown more than Pat going out and "finding" him. He's not even on scholarship. It makes no sense for Pat to bring in essentially a grad transfer at not a position of need and play him at the end of the rotation if he was really enamored by him. The minutes Greg got before the injury falls in line with how Pat treats old JT3 players. The guys that Pat is solely responsible for get the first crack and plenty of minutes. As I said this is what every person in sports management does so I am not singling out Pat. It's just the game works. I know this will go over like most of my stuff on here but whatever. Greg finished 4th in 3pt shooting % in the CAA his Junior year and started his last 24 games at W&M, scoring 600+ points in his 3 years there and shottign 39% from three for his career. I think he also had a relationship with a local AAU program that Ewing is interested in. I do not think this was a charity case at all. It was likely a mutual decision for Greg to join. Also, how would Greg be seen as a JT3 player if Ewing had to agree to use a new scholarship spot last season for Greg? I am not pretending Mac and Pickett do not have higher ceilings then Greg, but Greg was going to play this season and Ewing has demonstrated he will allow the hot hand to get more minutes. |
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Post by NCHoya on Jan 3, 2019 10:05:47 GMT -5
This was a great win. This team is hard to figure out, but it seems like we definitely “play up” when we have tougher games in better (and more hostile) environments. I thought our defense last night was among the best it has been all year. Everyone seemed to have more energy and intensity, and I actually think Govan’s defensive performance was pretty good. Malinowski reminded me of players “on fire” in NBA Jam. The guy was really on last night and instrumental to the win. I wouldn’t mind seeing him continue to start but either way he’s showing he deserves minutes as our best three point shooter thus far. Overall, I thought our passing was among the best it’s been all year, as well. Crisp, well targeted, and people seemed to find the right man in the right moment. I also thought we had a lot better motion on offense than in recent games. While the last couple of minutes had me worried, we were able to pull it out. The team clearly got rattled a bit by Butler’s late pressure but that’s something we can work on. Given how well we shot FTs all year, I have to think last night was a blip on that and I’m not overly concerned. Any road win in the Big East is fantastic. Great way to start the season. I think Mac solves the end game FT issue. He seems solid in that spot and his teammates have deferred to him in prior end of game spots. ARLR immediately comes to mind (ironically, he missed a BIG one in that game). Totally agree that this team seems to play better and be more engaged against better opponents and environments. I am hoping that the unnecessary close games earlier in the year were the result of playing down to a less than exciting opponent/environment. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2019 10:10:34 GMT -5
Any win on the road in the BE is a great win but let's not get drunk on it. Butler is one of the worst teams in the BE, or at minimum they are playing like that at the moment..
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Post by sleepy on Jan 3, 2019 10:13:23 GMT -5
Any win on the road in the BE is a great win but let's not get drunk on it. Butler is one of the worst teams in the BE, or at minimum they are playing like that at the moment.. Ah yes, but we are also one of the worst teams in the Big East. Therefore, every win is worth getting drunk on. |
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Jan 3, 2019 10:13:51 GMT -5
Any win on the road in the BE is a great win but let's not get drunk on it. Butler is one of the worst teams in the BE, or at minimum they are playing like that at the moment.. Yes I think Butler’s slower pace also helped us on the defensive end too, as we tend to fall apart defensively more when the other team runs a lot and has a higher pace. In that sense, I think St. John’s wil be a much tougher test. |
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Post by joey0403p on Jan 3, 2019 10:34:48 GMT -5
any link to the presser?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2019 10:39:23 GMT -5
Only Butlers side. It's in the articles thread. |
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