EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Nov 28, 2018 21:31:32 GMT -5
Why does this have to be the case when they're not the best players on the team? Because basketball has gone the way of the guard and the ball will be in their hands primarily. We saw exactly what happened last year when we had below average guard play. If we had other reliable ball handlers the offense could run thru at the 3 or 4 position that’d be one thing. But we have to rely on our guards to put people in the right positions, make the right decisions, and get the ball to the right guys. If they can’t or don’t do that, we’re going to struggle. Players should know where they're supposed to be, I don't see Akinjo or Mcclung doing much directing... Imo the team needs the frosh guards to be much better ball movers, not every pass has to lead directly to a shot... I thought the ball moved much better in the 2nd half...
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hoyainla
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Post by hoyainla on Nov 28, 2018 21:33:35 GMT -5
Interesting comment from Greg in the pressed
Pat's comments were spot on
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Post by bigelephant on Nov 28, 2018 21:39:56 GMT -5
The defense looked bad because they were lights out on the 3's in the beginning- started missing in the 2nd half. We were pretty good in total. After all we scored 90 pts. Mac had a decent game and was 2nd leading scorer.
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Post by SaxaCD on Nov 28, 2018 21:40:56 GMT -5
I am more convinced than before that you cannot play Akinjo and McClung together. McClung is a much better player with the ball in his hands and actually distributes it better than Akinjo. I see definite improvement in Mosley playing under control. Pickett and Blair cannot have gone from All-Freshmen team to afterthoughts and this team needs both. I hope that the coach can figure out how to bring them into the flow of the offense even if it means having to reign in the freshmen. Pickett went from the 3rd scoring option In the starting line up, to the 4th or 5th and that’s a problem. I think Mourning, Akinjo, and Mac are all taking too many shots, some of which should go to Pickett. I’d have to go back and watch, but he doesn’t seem to move much without the ball to get himself open. I really like the idea of McClung anchoring a second line (with Blair and Greg on the wings to get open looks out of Mac's aggressive moves to the hoop), and LeBlanc in there from the tip for his energy. Gotta do something to get Jamorko off earlier and more in the flow.
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Post by Loyal Hoya on Nov 28, 2018 21:49:31 GMT -5
The defense looked bad because they were lights out on the 3's in the beginning- started missing in the 2nd half. We were pretty good in total. After all we scored 90 pts. Mac had a decent game and was 2nd leading scorer. I think the D was better when Jagan and Malinowski were in the game. Wojcik was lighting us up at the beginning of the second half.
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SaxaCD
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Post by SaxaCD on Nov 28, 2018 21:51:56 GMT -5
The defense looked bad because they were lights out on the 3's in the beginning- started missing in the 2nd half. We were pretty good in total. After all we scored 90 pts. Mac had a decent game and was 2nd leading scorer. I do think it is skewed a bit by the ridiculously high percentage for a while, but we also gave up too many open looks AND we gave up a ton of points in the paint. I can actually live with the 3s, because you at least make the team beat you, but the layups by smaller guys as our defenders just sort of feebly wave just burns me when I watch it.
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Post by calhoya on Nov 28, 2018 21:52:59 GMT -5
Happy to read Ewing’s comments and his recognition that this team is playing selfishly. Happy to read of his recognition that Mosley and Malinowski are playing within themselves and contributing to team ball. Now waiting for an explanation of what happened to Blair and why Pickett has disappeared from the offense.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2018 21:56:08 GMT -5
I am more convinced than before that you cannot play Akinjo and McClung together. McClung is a much better player with the ball in his hands and actually distributes it better than Akinjo. I see definite improvement in Mosley playing under control. Pickett and Blair cannot have gone from All-Freshmen team to afterthoughts and this team needs both. I hope that the coach can figure out how to bring them into the flow of the offense even if it means having to reign in the freshmen. I dunno about "cannot", but I do agree that they probably shouldn't be starting & playing major minutes together. I'm pretty sure Pat had Mac on the floor every minute that James was off, which is good. That should automatically give Mac 10-12 backup PG minutes per night. Throw in 8-12 more with them together and that's right around what I'd like to see. Regarding Mac: Other than LJ, I doubt any GU player in the last 5 years drove the ball from the 3pt arc to the basket as many as the 6 times Mac did in the 1st half. His finishes were hit and mostly miss (dunk, nice pass, 3 missed layups, and one blocked), but that's where the experience fails him. The fact that he got there is significant - and why you've got to give him a chance to turn those into easy buckets. Greg, Jahvon, and Jagan aren't going to be doing that. Sure, his defense is a tire fire and the FR mistakes (incl shot selection) creep up on you -- so doubling that up w/ James isn't helping. So mix and match with the older guys for now, and see what works best. But ultimately you've got to hope the rough edges start to wear off - b/c his ceiling is so much higher and we don't even have a reliable 2nd scorer at this point. Elsewhere: - Jamorko is just lost out there. Kaleb nearly matched JP's stats in the 3 mins he played. I'm not sure how that gets solved. - I'm glad Trey had a good game the other day. But kind of like James/Mac, he duplicates what Jessie does on the inside and I don't like them playing together. As a backup center, he'd be pretty skilled offensively. But he's soft defensively and on the boards, and both he & Jessie would be better served having Josh next to them on the defensive end. 26 mpg is too high. Gotta get that down to around 20 (10-12 at the 5, 8-10 at the 4) - Blair not playing was an odd first. He'd never played less than 9 minutes before, and only did that twice.
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Post by ewingitrust on Nov 28, 2018 21:57:48 GMT -5
Folks lol...we WON the game...never was truly threatened and we got great contributions from Mosley/Greg/LeBlanc...we have depth and various amounts of scoring options. They'll be ready for Liberty and most definitely for Syracuse. I think it's a by-product of our lackluster schedule. First beat Liberty...and take it one game at a time.
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Post by 95hoya on Nov 28, 2018 22:04:56 GMT -5
We beat a god awful team by 8. It's a little concerning.
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Post by mfk24 on Nov 28, 2018 22:10:28 GMT -5
Folks lol...we WON the game...never was truly threatened and we got great contributions from Mosley/Greg/LeBlanc...we have depth and various amounts of scoring options. They'll be ready for Liberty and most definitely for Syracuse. I think it's a by-product of our lackluster schedule. First beat Liberty...and take it one game at a time. You definitely take the win, obviously, and of course we’d all like to be putting on the Duke dunk show and blowing teams out by 20+,but we’re not there. You can take the win and still point out things that need improvement. I’m not as doom and gloom as some around here, mostly because after 7 games I’ve already seen improvement. Fortunately or unfortunately, depending on how you look at it, it’s all been on the offensive end. I thought we ran much better zone offense than in any game so far, we seem to have figured out how to get the ball inbounds, we’ve cut down on turnovers two games in a row now, and there were even a few this game that were unforced that could still improve. We need some defensive improvement if we want to win games against tougher opponents. I think everybody plays up a little bit against higher level competition but still, these guys have to learn to take each and every opponent seriously and play every game with the same level of defensive intensity. It’s hard to do, I fully get it, but margin for error in college basketball is a lot smaller than some of these kids faced in high school and you can get beat on any given night if you’re not focused and ready to play.
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Post by KHoyaNYC on Nov 28, 2018 22:20:14 GMT -5
I hear what you are saying on seeing some incremental improvements offensively but I am left with the nagging feeling that we haven’t really moved the needle meaningfully forward as a whole since the Illinois game. Meanwhile, our kenpom rating and other metrics of “performance” continue to trend in the wrong direction. Syracuse game will be a good litmus test for me of where we are and if we are on the right track.
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Post by adm1hoya on Nov 28, 2018 22:23:11 GMT -5
Good win, not great. We have to do a better job defensively, as many here have stated. Jessie still plays d as if he arrives at the gym with four fouls, smh.
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Post by NCHoya on Nov 28, 2018 22:24:04 GMT -5
I expected Georgetown to roll tonight and win by 20+ so based on my expectations, I cannot take a lot of positives out of this performance. I think Ewing nailed it - selfish and pretty poor basketball, which is preventing guys that do not dominate the ball from getting involved. The team plays with so much more composure with Greg and Jagan in the game, but you give up a lot offensively. I am getting concerned Pickett is close to having a lost season, for whatever reason he is not able to get involved at all and some of that is on him but also this falls on the guards as well.
Akinjo is going to drive me nuts this season. Not slowing the ball down with a sizeable lead inside of 3 minutes was tough to watch. I was impressed with Mac's willingness and execution at the foul line. These guys just need to mature on the court and the growing pains are expected but tough to watch.
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Post by NCHoya on Nov 28, 2018 22:26:21 GMT -5
Good win, not great. We have to do a better job defensively, as many here have stated. Jessie still plays d as if he arrives at the gym with four, smh. Tough to watch Jessie wildly jumping to challenge shots he has no chance to change.
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Post by iowa80 on Nov 28, 2018 22:29:04 GMT -5
Can we at least agree that this team isn't where it needs to be defensively? Let's hope that Malinowski plays more "point forward", and then just set aside the offense, which can legitimately take awhile to mature.
We are not going to beat an above average team with the D that I saw tonight, and will likely not be in the game . Most of the ills from last year are still present with a somewhat different cast (I'll except Jesse from that). Sure, Richmond was hot--with consistently open looks from at best average players (other than Golden?). It's a group combination of perimeter players who don't seem to know how to play defense, which leads me to wonder if they can play defense. I'm intentionally not naming names here, and am not going to play the extreme pessimist given our offensive potential. But I doubt we go much of anywhere playing defense at this level.
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Post by sleepy on Nov 28, 2018 22:38:54 GMT -5
Can we at least agree that this team isn't where it needs to be defensively? Let's hope that Malinowski plays more "point forward", and then just set aside the offense, which can legitimately take awhile to mature. We are not going to beat an above average team with the D that I saw tonight, and will likely not be in the game . Most of the ills from last year are still present with a somewhat different cast (I'll except Jesse from that). Sure, Richmond was hot--with consistently open looks from at best average players (other than Golden?). It's a combination of perimeter players who don't seem to know how to play defense, which leads me to wonder if they can play defense. I'm intentionally not naming names here, and am not going to play the extreme pessimist given our offensive potential. But I doubt we go much of anywhere playing defense at this level. I agree, the defense needs a lot of work. A lot.
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Post by mdtd on Nov 28, 2018 22:50:31 GMT -5
I really didn't like the performance tonight. Mac and Jessie played well offensively but the same can't be said about their defense. I liked the roughly 5 minute period in time where we took the 11 point lead. Pushed the tempo, beat them early in the shot clock, forced bad shots and hit most of the shots that were given. Other than that, this was a simple case of playing down to your opponent. Jamorko's defense was poor and the depth we have wasn't used as effectively as I would've liked. I want Blair playing more, I like Malinowski's game a lot, let him play the 2/3/4. Pickett didn't played well and Kaleb didn't play much at all. It was really a 7-8 man rotation on a team which can go 9-10 deep. If players on the floor are struggling, give the guys on the bench some run, maybe one gives a spark to a team that needed it to pull away. We need a better showing against Liberty. Liberty could beat the team that played tonight. Not much was really great about tonight's game. Hoping for a much better showing. Would've lost to quite a few teams on the schedule.
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Post by beenaround on Nov 28, 2018 22:53:21 GMT -5
I hate to be an old , cranky, glass half empty guy...but I'm not feeling so great about this one. In fact, I haven't felt "great" since the win over an Ilini team that may not be all that great. Jesse is an elite offensive center, no doubt...but is this guy Golden? Cuz he looked like he could have scored inside any time he wanted to. We really do not seem to be able to stop mediocre, low level, college offensive players. Why not see if we can be a bit better in zone...at least mix it up a bit, as we did in the old days when PE was with the Hoyas? Can't be much worse than our man D.
Sorry...its probably just past my bed time.
On to Liberty!!!
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Post by SFHoya99 on Nov 28, 2018 22:55:18 GMT -5
It seems to me when Akinjo is in the team just stands around and waits for him to do something. When he's not in they are moving and the ball moves around more. If Pat reigns in the freshman it will be the first time he has done it in his coaching career so far. Both years the freshman have seemed to have the green light. It seems to me, you only watch games to find negative things to say about the freshman. This dude has hated Mac from even before he committed. As Mac has proven him wrong over and over, he just keeps coming up with new complaints. I would hope no one is listening to his repetitive drivel anymore -- it's clear he's had a bone to pick for going on a year and half now and it's just annoying.
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