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Post by professorhoya on Mar 3, 2021 9:10:38 GMT -5
Tim’s the kind of guy that we take for granted and are like oh it’s just Tim, but to other teams and fans, they are like, who is this monster, how do we stop him/Get him off The court
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Mar 3, 2021 9:25:04 GMT -5
He had two offensive rebounds on one play yesterday, which is outstanding.
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Post by dchoya72 on Mar 3, 2021 9:30:44 GMT -5
Tim is a huge, and powerful guy. He is operating more under control and he makes a big difference. His reach is enormous, he takes up a lot of space, and he seems to be more self aware, so he's not getting as many reaching fouls. He's a great asset to the squad.
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Post by Elvado on Mar 3, 2021 9:38:40 GMT -5
For everything he may still lack, Tim has morphed from unknown project to contributor.
Credit to him and the staff for this development.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Mar 3, 2021 9:55:01 GMT -5
Well said.
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 3, 2021 10:00:48 GMT -5
Tim is huge, and powerful guy. He is operating more under control and he makes a big difference. His reach is enormous, he takes up a lot of space, and he seems to be more self aware, so he's not getting as many reaching fouls. He's a great asset to the squad. I think psychologically it has a big effect on opposing fans and players. Because they are trying so hard to get Q off the floor, only to have him replaced by this physically imposing beast. So it must be a very demoralizing feeling for those fans and players.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Mar 3, 2021 10:57:02 GMT -5
Yeah- having two physically imposing centers is unique and a huge plus.
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 3, 2021 11:27:49 GMT -5
Yeah- having two physically imposing centers is unique and a huge plus. I think I was reading the DePaul board and they were exasperated complaining that we had like 5 7 footers that we could just keep rotating into the game one after the other when one got in foul trouble.
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Post by dchoya72 on Mar 3, 2021 13:05:37 GMT -5
Tim is huge, and powerful guy. He is operating more under control and he makes a big difference. His reach is enormous, he takes up a lot of space, and he seems to be more self aware, so he's not getting as many reaching fouls. He's a great asset to the squad. I think psychologically it has a big effect on opposing fans and players. Because they are trying so hard to get Q off the floor, only to have him replaced by this physically imposing guy. So it must be a very demoralizing feeling for those fans and players.
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Post by jwp91 on Mar 7, 2021 9:05:47 GMT -5
Ended the regular season 14 of 16 from the free throw line leading the team at 87.5%
That is pretty impressive. Keep workin' big guy. You can shoot. The sky is the limit.
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Post by gotin2gu4lunch on Mar 7, 2021 11:46:31 GMT -5
Ended the regular season 14 of 16 from the free throw line leading the team at 87.5% That is pretty impressive. Keep workin' big guy. You can shoot. The sky is the limit. I'm sure I'm in the minority, but I think Tim has shown more growth than Q! And maybe when it's all said and done. Tim may be the better player. Now, i do understand that the crowd always favors the backup. But I really believe Tim has shown more growth and has the bigger upside.
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Post by hoyaboya on Mar 7, 2021 11:48:39 GMT -5
Ended the regular season 14 of 16 from the free throw line leading the team at 87.5% That is pretty impressive. Keep workin' big guy. You can shoot. The sky is the limit. I'm sure I'm in the minority, but I think Tim has shown more growth than Q! And maybe when it's all said and done. Tim may be the better player. Now, i do understand that the crowd always favors the backup. But I really believe Tim has shown more growth and has the bigger upside. He’s shown growth in limited minutes, I agree. Has to learn how to play without fouling.
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Post by vv83 on Mar 7, 2021 12:03:01 GMT -5
other than his foul shooting, Tim has not shown any offensive skill at all. Virtually all his points come on dunks/putbacks (which he sometimes misses/gets blocked). He does not have anything resembling an effective jump hook, drop step, turnaround jumper, etc. Sure, he could develop some of this stuff. But two seasons into his college career, he has not shown even rudimentary low post offensive skills. His defense has improved some, and he can sometimes be an impact player defensively. But offensively - any time he touches the ball and does not turn it over/throw up a shot that has no chance of going in - it is a positive. I don't think a team can win with a center as limited offensively as Tim if he has to play more than 5-10 minutes a game.
My guess is that Mutombo has a very good shot at taking over the backup center spot next year. He can at least force teams to defend him honestly, and he is going to convert most of the basic low post opportunities that Tim cannot convert right now.
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Post by gotin2gu4lunch on Mar 7, 2021 12:48:14 GMT -5
other than his foul shooting, Tim has not shown any offensive skill at all. Virtually all his points come on dunks/putbacks (which he sometimes misses/gets blocked). He does not have anything resembling an effective jump hook, drop step, turnaround jumper, etc. Sure, he could develop some of this stuff. But two seasons into his college career, he has not shown even rudimentary low post offensive skills. His defense has improved some, and he can sometimes be an impact player defensively. But offensively - any time he touches the ball and does not turn it over/throw up a shot that has no chance of going in - it is a positive. I don't think a team can win with a center as limited offensively as Tim if he has to play more than 5-10 minutes a game. My guess is that Mutombo has a very good shot at taking over the backup center spot next year. He can at least force teams to defend him honestly, and he is going to convert most of the basic low post opportunities that Tim cannot convert right now. Please indulge on this for a second. I meant to compare their growth from last year to present. If you think about the growth, could you not say the Q looked better last year? And has not shown the expected growth to date? Outside of his jump hooks and dunks, he has not developed a counter move aside from the up and under move, that he seemingly barely uses. What happened to the short jumper that I thought I saw him working on last year? Why can he not pass out of the post? His foul shoot has gotten worse or not improved from last year. I'm just saying I've seen Tim getting better as the year has progressed. They both, could stand to close out under control more often. And not jump on every fake! But that's a coaching issue, why does every pump fake from the 3 point line cause our kids to jump, even if they are covering already (not on a run out)? With that being said Q is the man right now. And I'm not looking for a lineup or playing time change. Just that I believe it could be Tim when it's all said and done.
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Post by blueandgray on Mar 7, 2021 15:08:10 GMT -5
I like Tim but he is still way raw. Keep working Tim.
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 7, 2021 15:30:23 GMT -5
other than his foul shooting, Tim has not shown any offensive skill at all. Virtually all his points come on dunks/putbacks (which he sometimes misses/gets blocked). He does not have anything resembling an effective jump hook, drop step, turnaround jumper, etc. Sure, he could develop some of this stuff. But two seasons into his college career, he has not shown even rudimentary low post offensive skills. His defense has improved some, and he can sometimes be an impact player defensively. But offensively - any time he touches the ball and does not turn it over/throw up a shot that has no chance of going in - it is a positive. I don't think a team can win with a center as limited offensively as Tim if he has to play more than 5-10 minutes a game. My guess is that Mutombo has a very good shot at taking over the backup center spot next year. He can at least force teams to defend him honestly, and he is going to convert most of the basic low post opportunities that Tim cannot convert right now. Please indulge on this for a second. I meant to compare their growth from last year to present. If you think about the growth, could you not say the Q looked better last year? And has not shown the expected growth to date? Outside of his jump hooks and dunks, he has not developed a counter move aside from the up and under move, that he seemingly barely uses. What happened to the short jumper that I thought I saw him working on last year? Why can he not pass out of the post? His foul shoot has gotten worse or not improved from last year. I'm just saying I've seen Tim getting better as the year has progressed. They both, could stand to close out under control more often. And not jump on every fake! But that's a coaching issue, why does every pump fake from the 3 point line cause our kids to jump, even if they are covering already (not on a run out)? With that being said Q is the man right now. And I'm not looking for a lineup or playing time change. Just that I believe it could be Tim when it's all said and done. Disagree. Last year Q was playing against backup centers for the most part. This year he's shooting a really high percentage vs starters down low. The only way other teams can stop him is to double/triple team him.
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Post by the_way on Mar 7, 2021 16:46:52 GMT -5
Q is the more polished and refined player, but I think Tim is going to be good too. They both have two years of eligibility remaining working with Coach Ewing. They'll be fine. Both are coming along nicely.
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Post by drquigley on Mar 7, 2021 17:59:11 GMT -5
Anyone else, after looking at highlight films, think that Motumbo may wind up as a 4 (and maybe even see some 3?) Looks like he had a nice outside shot and a decent handle. With 3 bigs already here it wouldn't surprise me to see Motumbo playing away from the basket.
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Post by jwp91 on Mar 7, 2021 18:37:08 GMT -5
Anyone else, after looking at highlight films, think that Motumbo may wind up as a 4 (and maybe even see some 3?) Looks like he had a nice outside shot and a decent handle. With 3 bigs already here it wouldn't surprise me to see Motumbo playing away from the basket. Can he guard a 4? I have heard him say he aspires to play like Anthony Davis, but in the games and highlights I’ve seen, he looks like an old school 5 to me.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2021 18:58:21 GMT -5
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