Filo
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Post by Filo on May 23, 2022 13:09:19 GMT -5
It's tiring having to slog through this nonsense in every thread. I am as big a Hoya fan as anyone, and I am really disappointed in what has become of the program. But that doesn't mean every single news item and thread has to be viewed through an anti-Ewing bias. Nevertheless, several posters have managed to accomplish this. The powers that be / moderators have allowed this small group to take over and hijack every single thread with the same negative stuff over and over. I realize it is a no-win situation for the mods, and the flipside is being accused of stifling free discussion, etc. but it has gotten out-of-hand. Tired of coming here and that's all there is. Its a shame. Going to have to find another new hobby to replace all the time I have put in over the years reading Hoyatalk and occasionally contributing.
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Post by practice on May 23, 2022 13:17:33 GMT -5
Malcom Wilson is still on the roster, so I'm not sure we can assume that Ighoefe was run off the team ... What if the roster for next year comes out and Malcolm Wilson is not on it? I still won't make an assumption without additional facts.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on May 23, 2022 13:18:34 GMT -5
Best of luck to Big Tim. If there is actual proof he was FORCED out, that would be disturbing news. If there is just rampant negative speculation, that would be par for the course for Hoyatalk.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on May 23, 2022 13:19:04 GMT -5
What if the roster for next year comes out and Malcolm Wilson is not on it? I still won't make an assumption without additional facts. Like a reasonable trier of fact.
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Post by practice on May 23, 2022 13:20:26 GMT -5
You post this over and over as a deflection, knowing the standard of proof will never be met. I don't have incontrovertible evidence that George Butler was thrown out for cheating on a paper in 1995, but everyone here for twenty years has accepted that as canon because it fits the facts and it's what the rumor mill said. No one ever in twenty years has challenged that with a "where's the evidence." This is challenged because it says something you don't want to believe. While not sure about plagiarism, it is a fact that George Butler was dismissed from the team for academic reasons: www.nytimes.com/1995/01/08/sports/college-basketball-off-the-team-at-georgetown.html I don't see similar NYTimes reporting on the reasons why Tim Ighoefe is transferring.
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hoyaboya
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Post by hoyaboya on May 23, 2022 14:13:31 GMT -5
Everyone who left except Holloway and Aminu were asked to bounce. So you're saying Patrick Ewing blatantly lied, in front of major boosters, at the post-season banquet (re: Don Carey)?
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tgo
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Post by tgo on May 23, 2022 15:23:57 GMT -5
When schools recruit players and it turns out that the player is not going to develop into a Big East caliber player ... is it wrong to push them to transfer? yes, unquestionably, completely wrong.
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hoyaroc
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Post by hoyaroc on May 23, 2022 15:34:19 GMT -5
It's tiring having to slog through this nonsense in every thread. I am as big a Hoya fan as anyone, and I am really disappointed in what has become of the program. But that doesn't mean every single news item and thread has to be viewed through an anti-Ewing bias. Nevertheless, several posters have managed to accomplish this. The powers that be / moderators have allowed this small group to take over and hijack every single thread with the same negative stuff over and over. I realize it is a no-win situation for the mods, and the flipside is being accused of stifling free discussion, etc. but it has gotten out-of-hand. Tired of coming here and that's all there is. Its a shame. Going to have to find another new hobby to replace all the time I have put in over the years reading Hoyatalk and occasionally contributing. I totally agree! The mods have allowed the hijackers to take over this thread with their negativity. But they will punish others who defend the men’s basketball program. I called out these hijackers for having no credibility. The mods had the audacity to omit my post. It’s past time for us positive posters to stand up to the hijackers and the mods.
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bigskyhoya
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Post by bigskyhoya on May 23, 2022 15:47:30 GMT -5
I am as big a Hoya fan as anyone, and I am really disappointed in what has become of the program. But that doesn't mean every single news item and thread has to be viewed through an anti-Ewing bias. Nevertheless, several posters have managed to accomplish this. The powers that be / moderators have allowed this small group to take over and hijack every single thread with the same negative stuff over and over. I realize it is a no-win situation for the mods, and the flipside is being accused of stifling free discussion, etc. but it has gotten out-of-hand. Tired of coming here and that's all there is. Its a shame. Going to have to find another new hobby to replace all the time I have put in over the years reading Hoyatalk and occasionally contributing. I totally agree! The mods have allowed the hijackers to take over this thread with their negativity. But they will punish others who defend the men’s basketball program. I called out these hijackers for having no credibility. The mods had the audacity to omit my post. It’s past time for us positive posters to stand up to the hijackers and the mods. Everyone has the same daily 10 post limit. I don’t need to see 11 posts from anyone that Ewing is a terrible coach or that he is on his way to the HOF as a coach. By now, no one is on the fence about this.
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madgesiq92
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Post by madgesiq92 on May 23, 2022 15:55:45 GMT -5
Even if Wilson stays, not certain he will be taking up an athletic scholarship according to what I have been hearing.
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hoyaroc
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Post by hoyaroc on May 23, 2022 16:07:47 GMT -5
Even if Wilson stays, not certain he will be taking up an athletic scholarship according to what I have been hearing. No disrespect but please don’t make speculation about a current student athlete scholarship unless you are willing to provide factual information.
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madgesiq92
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Post by madgesiq92 on May 23, 2022 19:08:34 GMT -5
Even if Wilson stays, not certain he will be taking up an athletic scholarship according to what I have been hearing. No disrespect but please don’t make speculation about a current student athlete scholarship unless you are willing to provide factual information. When the Hoyas announce Qs return this week, we will be one scholarship player over. You can do the math. How’s that for factual information. Go crawl back under the “roc” you came from.
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Post by BeantownHoya on May 23, 2022 19:21:29 GMT -5
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TC
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Post by TC on May 23, 2022 21:10:49 GMT -5
Malcom Wilson is still on the roster, so I'm not sure we can assume that Ighoefe was run off the team ... Land speed record for a post aging poorly - I'm pretty sure you can assume Ewing ran both of them off of the team.
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Post by practice on May 23, 2022 21:44:57 GMT -5
Ok Woodward and Bernstein.
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hoya73
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Post by hoya73 on May 24, 2022 9:19:38 GMT -5
When the Hoyas announce Qs return this week, we will be one scholarship player over. You do the math How’s that for factual information. Edited Edited. OK, where are the moderators? I think calling another poster a piece of s is beyond the pale, no matter how much you disagree with him. Is there no sanction for this madgesiq guy for starting down that road? hoyaroc is also culpable for responding in kind, but .. I'll ask: how many on this board are comfortable with this new low? Or, to lighten things up, should I ask whether there's such a thing as a useful POS?
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on May 24, 2022 9:33:23 GMT -5
Hey buddy I didn’t disrespect you. Until we hear official information regarding Wilson scholarship it’s all speculation. Go back to your cave. You POS!!! OK, where are the moderators? I think calling another poster a piece of s is beyond the pale, no matter how much you disagree with him. Is there no sanction for this madgesiq guy for starting down that road? hoyaroc is also culpable for responding in kind, but .. I'll ask: how many on this board are comfortable with this new low? Or, to lighten things up, should I ask whether there's such a thing as a useful POS? I just find it shocking that people get their panties in a bunch on a chat board. No, you shouldn't call someone anything you wouldn't say directly to their face. They need to take it down a notch. This is the discussion I have with my 12 year old on appropriate online etiquette and I could just cut & paste that discussion in here for a lot of the posters.
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