Ryan Mutombo 2021 commits to Georgetown

[paranoia2]

During Ryan’s visit when he was going CRAZY during the comeback showed he loves the program. He expects to come in & play. He wants another highly rated prep player to join him. I don’t see ANYTHING wrong with that.

If any current player has a problem with it then they better work their tails off.

This season I would love to see Patrick explore the twin tower lineups & some creative defensive sets. Big John utilized the 1-3-1, the press and often times went junk defense to slow down prolific scorers. We have a man of mystery in Malcolm Wilson that could be a defensive force. While “positionless” basketball with undersized stretch 4 & 5’s is the all the rage getting your shot tossed still resonates.

Ryan seems committed to being able to hit the 3 point shot and his thoughtful confidence is GREAT.

[thejerseytornado]

FSU brought in a top center in 2019. They have a project coming in in 2020. They signed two Cs in 2021 already. There is more competition for big man minutes at FSU. It's a fact. Is it "better"? who knows (rankings say it is, fwiw). But there is definitely more and its younger.

If his teammates (or players from other teams that got insulted he's talking about bringing the big east back which, considering what it was--yes, even with Villanova's success, it's not "back" to where it was in the mid 2000s or in the 1990s) hold a grudge or anything over AN interview a year before he comes to campus, I would be blown away. The nit-picking here is just over the top.

Welcome Ryan.

[professorhoya]

Oct 9, 2020 7:17:49 GMT -5 thejerseytornado said:

FSU brought in a top center in 2019. They have a project coming in in 2020. They signed two Cs in 2021 already. There is more competition for big man minutes at FSU. It's a fact. Is it "better"? who knows (rankings say it is, fwiw). But there is definitely more and its younger.

If his teammates (or players from other teams that got insulted he's talking about bringing the big east back which, considering what it was--yes, even with Villanova's success, it's not "back" to where it was in the mid 2000s or in the 1990s) hold a grudge or anything over AN interview a year before he comes to campus, I would be blown away. The nit-picking here is just over the top.

Welcome Ryan.

Yeah I don’t remember anyone giving MacClung or Akinjo the third degree when they first announced and said they wanted to be starter and dominate.

I think some people were just unhappy that they were wrong on Mutombo not coming here so had to make everyone else unhappy too

[calhoya]

Is this really an issue or just the result of COVID fatigue? The goal should always be to bring in players with the confidence and belief that they can and should play significant minutes right away. That is exactly what you want--kids with that level of self-confidence and hopefully the ability to back it up. However there are risks in recruiting highly confident kids and the real challenge is for the coaches to figure out how to balance the egos and still field an unselfish and cohesive team. Even the most successful coaches cannot always do that--look at the transfers that occur regularly now from the blue blood programs.

Ewing faced this challenge with McClung and Akinjo and ultimately could not find the happy medium to keep both (or either) players satisfied while also utilizing the other players on the team. In the process some other players lost opportunities to develop while we fans suffered through long stretches of watching two alpha guards chuck up shots from every angle and corner of the court and fail to get their teammates involved. I think that Ewing's offense and hopefully aggressive defense can involve enough of these kids to reduce the risk of unhappiness. But it is almost inevitable there will be some unhappiness and some transfers--it goes with the territory of major college basketball.

[bigelephant]

Oct 9, 2020 7:47:27 GMT -5 calhoya said:

Is this really an issue or just the result of COVID fatigue? The goal should always be to bring in players with the confidence and belief that they can and should play significant minutes right away. That is exactly what you want--kids with that level of self-confidence and hopefully the ability to back it up. However there are risks in recruiting highly confident kids and the real challenge is for the coaches to figure out how to balance the egos and still field an unselfish and cohesive team. Even the most successful coaches cannot always do that--look at the transfers that occur regularly now from the blue blood programs.

Ewing faced this challenge with McClung and Akinjo and ultimately could not find the happy medium to keep both (or either) players satisfied while also utilizing the other players on the team. In the process some other players lost opportunities to develop while we fans suffered through long stretches of watching two alpha guards chuck up shots from every angle and corner of the court and fail to get their teammates involved. I think that Ewing's offense and hopefully aggressive defense can involve enough of these kids to reduce the risk of unhappiness. But it is almost inevitable there will be some unhappiness and some transfers--it goes with the territory of major college basketball.

Pretty accurate analysis!

[Deleted]

You guys must don't remember the 80's Hoyas team. I'm talking about the ones Patrick played on and the ones subsequent to Patrick's time on the hilltop.

Coach Thompson Jr. played a lot of the kids he had on the team and his rotations were deep. I could be wrong but I believe there were only a few transfers.

I remember Anthony Jones transferring because he wanted more playing time. I am not certain but I think Anthony Tucker played for Thompson but again, I'm not certain.

Those the only two guys who I know of that left voluntarily under Coach Thompson Jr.

Coach always played a deep bench and all the guys he played contributed heavily in the games.

I think Patrick can at least go 8 to 10 deep every game. I'm sure guys are going to have their roles on the team which will allow for kids to get some time.

[rhw485]

Article on the Athletic w some quotes from HS coach so thought it was worth sharing (removed some sections so as not to fully just copy / paste but it's not material info)


“Even though he’s going to Georgetown, he wants to blaze his own trail and leave his own mark,” Lovett coach Mike Harner says. “He really did take a look at other (colleges) just because of that. At the end of the day, he is going to set his own path.”



So far that path has been on an upward trajectory. Mutombo wasn’t ranked among the top recruits in his class going into his junior year, but his steady improvement and physical maturation have turned him into a top-100 prospect. He now checks in at 6-foot-11 and 235 pounds, nearly 35 pounds heavier than he was as a freshman.



“He has a knack for blocking shots and keeping it in play,” Harner says. “Very rarely does he block a shot and it goes out of bounds.”



While Ryan is a true post player, Harner says he possesses excellent footwork and is a terrific passer. Early in Ryan’s career, Harner had to tell him to stop being so unselfish and to look for his own shot. Unlike Dikembe, Ryan eventually may be able to stretch the floor as a more modern five-man as well. Harner says he has a soft touch and good range out to 15 to 18 feet.



“But with added strength, he should be able to shoot the college 3 with ease,” he says.



There can be unique pressure in going to a school where your father’s name is hanging in the rafters, which is why Harner is a little surprised that Ryan Mutombo picked Georgetown over other suitors, including Tennessee and Florida State. But Harner says the younger Mutombo is humble and mature enough to handle it, just as he learned not to get caught up in using his dad’s famous finger move.



“I don’t know if he’ll come in and start next year for Georgetown,” Harner says. “But he’ll make Georgetown fans very, very proud that he’s representing the school with the way he carries himself on and off the floor.”

[LCPolo18]

Oct 9, 2020 9:51:24 GMT -5 rhw485 said:

Article on the Athletic w some quotes from HS coach so thought it was worth sharing (removed some sections so as not to fully just copy / paste but it's not material info)


“Even though he’s going to Georgetown, he wants to blaze his own trail and leave his own mark,” Lovett coach Mike Harner says. “He really did take a look at other (colleges) just because of that. At the end of the day, he is going to set his own path.”



So far that path has been on an upward trajectory. Mutombo wasn’t ranked among the top recruits in his class going into his junior year, but his steady improvement and physical maturation have turned him into a top-100 prospect. He now checks in at 6-foot-11 and 235 pounds, nearly 35 pounds heavier than he was as a freshman.



“He has a knack for blocking shots and keeping it in play,” Harner says. “Very rarely does he block a shot and it goes out of bounds.”



While Ryan is a true post player, Harner says he possesses excellent footwork and is a terrific passer. Early in Ryan’s career, Harner had to tell him to stop being so unselfish and to look for his own shot. Unlike Dikembe, Ryan eventually may be able to stretch the floor as a more modern five-man as well. Harner says he has a soft touch and good range out to 15 to 18 feet.



“But with added strength, he should be able to shoot the college 3 with ease,” he says.



There can be unique pressure in going to a school where your father’s name is hanging in the rafters, which is why Harner is a little surprised that Ryan Mutombo picked Georgetown over other suitors, including Tennessee and Florida State. But Harner says the younger Mutombo is humble and mature enough to handle it, just as he learned not to get caught up in using his dad’s famous finger move.



“I don’t know if he’ll come in and start next year for Georgetown,” Harner says. “But he’ll make Georgetown fans very, very proud that he’s representing the school with the way he carries himself on and off the floor.”

Full article link:

[DFW HOYA]

Oct 9, 2020 9:33:58 GMT -5 hoyafansinceewingera said:

Coach Thompson Jr. played a lot of the kids he had on the team and his rotations were deep. I could be wrong but I believe there were only a few transfers.

I remember Anthony Jones transferring because he wanted more playing time. I am not certain but I think Anthony Tucker played for Thompson but again, I'm not certain.

Those the only two guys who I know of that left voluntarily under Coach Thompson Jr.

There were transfers in the 1980's, though not to the extent of the 1990's. Key difference: the transfers tended to be reserves.

Ray Knight (1981)
Anthony Jones (1983)
Elvado Smith (1983)
David Dunn (1983)
Clifton Dairsow (1984)
Kevin Floyd (1985)
Grady Mateen (1986)
Victor Morris (1986)
Anthony Tucker (1988)
John Turner (1989)

[jwp91]

Oct 9, 2020 7:47:27 GMT -5 calhoya said:

Is this really an issue or just the result of COVID fatigue? The goal should always be to bring in players with the confidence and belief that they can and should play significant minutes right away. That is exactly what you want--kids with that level of self-confidence and hopefully the ability to back it up. However there are risks in recruiting highly confident kids and the real challenge is for the coaches to figure out how to balance the egos and still field an unselfish and cohesive team. Even the most successful coaches cannot always do that--look at the transfers that occur regularly now from the blue blood programs.

Ewing faced this challenge with McClung and Akinjo and ultimately could not find the happy medium to keep both (or either) players satisfied while also utilizing the other players on the team. In the process some other players lost opportunities to develop while we fans suffered through long stretches of watching two alpha guards chuck up shots from every angle and corner of the court and fail to get their teammates involved. I think that Ewing's offense and hopefully aggressive defense can involve enough of these kids to reduce the risk of unhappiness. But it is almost inevitable there will be some unhappiness and some transfers--it goes with the territory of major college basketball.

Another factor perhaps not considered could be election stress.

Of course you want confident players. Throwing shade at future teammates and recruits (whether or not inadvertent) is simply ill-advised. For as polished and articulate and intelligent as he came across, I was surprised by those mistakes ... even for a hs senior.

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Oct 9, 2020 12:21:07 GMT -5 DFW HOYA said:

Oct 9, 2020 9:33:58 GMT -5 hoyafansinceewingera said:

Coach Thompson Jr. played a lot of the kids he had on the team and his rotations were deep. I could be wrong but I believe there were only a few transfers.

I remember Anthony Jones transferring because he wanted more playing time. I am not certain but I think Anthony Tucker played for Thompson but again, I'm not certain.

Those the only two guys who I know of that left voluntarily under Coach Thompson Jr.

There were transfers in the 1980's, though not to the extent of the 1990's. Key difference: the transfers tended to be reserves.

Ray Knight (1981)
Anthony Jones (1983)
Elvado Smith (1983)
David Dunn (1983)
Clifton Dairsow (1984)
Kevin Floyd (1985)
Grady Mateen (1986)
Victor Morris (1986)
Anthony Tucker (1988)
John Turner (1989)

I totally forgot about Grady Mateen.  However, the only other guys I know on that list are John Turner, David Dunn and vaguely do I remember Morris.  I had Jones and Tucker on my list.  Now neither one of those guys on your list with the exception of Mateen, Dunn, Jones and Tucker were heavy contributors or starter potential players.  Jones and Tucker went on to star on other teams.  Jones with UNLV and Tucker with Wake Forest.  I don't know what happened with Dunn or Mateen after they moved onto their new teams. 

Those other guys on your list, not to disrespect them but they were not heavy contributors, I am sure of it.  Wherever they transferred to, I don't think they were starters on those teams.   The kids we have can all play and will all play some small role on the team.  I almost certain of it.  If anyone transfers, we won't be hurting, provided we get Aminu.  However, I think anyone of these kids on our team now could go onto other programs and get regular playing time.

Not related to John Thompson Jr's team, a few guys that transferred that I wished we didn't let go are Vee Sanford and Jerrell Bennemon.  I know I spelled Jerrell's name wrong but I think you know who I am talking about.  To me these guys were clearly starter like players.  

[ColumbiaHeightsHoya]

I think transfer culture has changed completely too since the 80's and 90's. If kids don't get time the bounce. If they don't get featured they bounce. If they get featured without the parts they feel they need around them they bounce. And sometimes even if you check all of those off the list they still bounce. I am sure Ryan is ready to compete from day one. The tougher practices are, the more ready we will be for games. Our talent level has been too low for years so some competition shouldn't scare anyone away.

[paranoia2]

He recently passed away (RIP David) but David Edwards transfer was a killer. What a player. Fearless with a great handle.

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Oct 9, 2020 23:23:39 GMT -5 paranoia2 said:

He recently passed away (RIP David) but David Edwards transfer was a killer. What a player. Fearless with a great handle.

I went back and looked at a David Edwards highlight reel and for some reason I vaguely remember him.  I do know they announced his passing recently.

[Elvado]

Oct 10, 2020 7:37:59 GMT -5 hoyafansinceewingera said:

Oct 9, 2020 23:23:39 GMT -5 paranoia2 said:

He recently passed away (RIP David) but David Edwards transfer was a killer. What a player. Fearless with a great handle.

You know I missed David Edwards playing.  Was David on the Eschrick's teams?  I missed a lot of those Hoyas game because I was in school and working a bunch of jobs so I didn't have time to watch the Hoyas during those times.

David played one year. 1990. He was electric and Uber talented.

Almost singlehandedly brought us back against Xavier in the 2nd round after Bryant stunk up the joint.

Transferred to A&M.

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Oct 10, 2020 7:42:41 GMT -5 Elvado said:

Oct 10, 2020 7:37:59 GMT -5 hoyafansinceewingera said:

You know I missed David Edwards playing.  Was David on the Eschrick's teams?  I missed a lot of those Hoyas game because I was in school and working a bunch of jobs so I didn't have time to watch the Hoyas during those times.

David played one year. 1990. He was electric and Uber talented.

Almost singlehandedly brought us back against Xavier in the 2nd round after Bryant stunk up the joint.

Transferred to A&M.

Thank you so much.  I actually changed my comment because I found a video on David when the Hoyas defeated Carolina in 89 and I do remember him, although vaguely.  I do remember that number 10 in that game putting on his wizardry against the Tar Heels.  But that's the only game I remember of David with the Hoyas.  After I watched that video, I saw a video of him when he was at Texas A&M.  His coach was lobbying for him to be a part of the Naismith award candidates.  It seems he was a special player.  

[blueandgray]

Oct 9, 2020 13:37:11 GMT -5 hoyafansinceewingera said:

Oct 9, 2020 12:21:07 GMT -5 DFW HOYA said:

There were transfers in the 1980's, though not to the extent of the 1990's. Key difference: the transfers tended to be reserves.

Ray Knight (1981)
Anthony Jones (1983)
Elvado Smith (1983)
David Dunn (1983)
Clifton Dairsow (1984)
Kevin Floyd (1985)
Grady Mateen (1986)
Victor Morris (1986)
Anthony Tucker (1988)
John Turner (1989)

I totally forgot about Grady Mateen.  However, the only other guys I know on that list are John Turner, David Dunn and vaguely do I remember Morris.  I had Jones and Tucker on my list.  Now neither one of those guys on your list with the exception of Mateen, Dunn, Jones and Tucker were heavy contributors or starter potential players.  Jones and Tucker went on to star on other teams.  Jones with UNLV and Tucker with Wake Forest.  I don't know what happened with Dunn or Mateen after they moved onto their new teams. 

Those other guys on your list, not to disrespect them but they were not heavy contributors, I am sure of it.  Wherever they transferred to, I don't think they were starters on those teams.   The kids we have can all play and will all play some small role on the team.  I almost certain of it.  If anyone transfers, we won't be hurting, provided we get Aminu.  However, I think anyone of these kids on our team now could go onto other programs and get regular playing time.

Not related to John Thompson Jr's team, a few guys that transferred that I wished we didn't let go are Vee Sanford and Jerrell Bennemon.  I know I spelled Jerrell's name wrong but I think you know who I am talking about.  To me these guys were clearly starter like players.  

Dunn transferred to Georgia where he eventually became 2nd team all SEC.

[professorhoya]

Sept 16, 2020 20:20:00 GMT -5 jwp91 said:

Sept 16, 2020 20:05:01 GMT -5 FrazierFanatic said:

Let's not become personally offended because a high school kid is uncertain exactly what he wants to do, and is taking his time to consider all of his options. Baldwin hasn't decided, Mohammed hasn't decided. We don't excoriate them because they have not jumped at the Hoya offer yet. If Ryan ends up a Hoya, welcome to him. If not, have a good career (unless he plays against the Hoyas of course).

Those guys aren’t legacies at Georgetown or centers with the opportunity to learn from Ewing. If Ryan wanted to be at Georgetown, we would know by now. He has moved on. So should we.

To be fair though you were wrong on Mutombo not coming here.

So it would make sense that you are reacting negatively to his announcement and him. I would probably do the same in a similar circumstance.

[trillesthoya]

Oct 10, 2020 10:07:39 GMT -5 professorhoya said:

Sept 16, 2020 20:20:00 GMT -5 jwp91 said:

Those guys aren’t legacies at Georgetown or centers with the opportunity to learn from Ewing. If Ryan wanted to be at Georgetown, we would know by now. He has moved on. So should we.

To be fair though you were wrong on Mutombo not coming here.

So it would make sense that you are reacting negatively to his announcement and him. I would probably do the same in a similar circumstance.

Wow, you pulled out the receipts! Lot of people (myself included) said some things we probably regret now that Ryan is a Hoya. Very glad he is with us and I hope we don't feel the need to nitpick every single word the kid says and try to draw conclusions based on it. Very strange to me when people really pay THAT much attention to the stuff high schoolers say. 

[jwp91]

Oct 10, 2020 10:07:39 GMT -5 professorhoya said:

Sept 16, 2020 20:20:00 GMT -5 jwp91 said:

Those guys aren’t legacies at Georgetown or centers with the opportunity to learn from Ewing. If Ryan wanted to be at Georgetown, we would know by now. He has moved on. So should we.

To be fair though you were wrong on Mutombo not coming here.

So it would make sense that you are reacting negatively to his announcement and him. I would probably do the same in a similar circumstance.

I was mistaken. And so were Chris Wright and Austin Freeman. I wish him great success as a Hoya.