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Post by dense on Oct 5, 2020 5:35:09 GMT -5
I'm like others and think there is a huge chance Wahab have a kind of year that he may declare but the schollie situation always works itself out. Or perhaps if need be Carey plays his second year of remaining eligibility at a different college. Since he is a grad student he is allowed to do this I believe. I would have thrown out the suggestion of Mutombo having his first season be one in which he isn't on a scholarship but I don't want DFW and others swooping in to correct me. There's a certain player who can give his schollie up for a 1 and done also. |
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Post by rhw485 on Oct 5, 2020 6:28:49 GMT -5
Congrats to Ryan and the staff! Agree with others the optics here might matter more than the impact on the court, at least for day 1.
Don't worry about the scholarships if it relates to Aminu, always works itself out.
Not going to worry about center glut either, this was simply one they needed to have and it makes sense to have a 2 year gap between Ryan and the others.
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Post by professorhoya on Oct 5, 2020 6:51:32 GMT -5
Watching his announcement video he has really good handles for a seven footer
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2020 7:48:09 GMT -5
He's coming. And so are others. Hoya Saxa. One down... |
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Post by paranoia2 on Oct 5, 2020 7:50:57 GMT -5
If Aminu signs with Georgetown the incoming class would be as close to a “FAB 5” as we have ever come. PG Riley G Beard SF Aminu PF Billingsley C Mutombo. Not even close. What recruiting class in Georgetown history formed a complete starting level unit of 5 players? The quote “as close to a “fab 5” as we have ever come” would therefore be accurate. Didn’t t know there were so many latent Wolverine fans lurking here. Going a level deeper after the defections & confusion of last season the importance of such a class for this program could be program altering once again making the as close to a “fab 5” for us be once again accurate. Read the damn post. “A “fab 5” at Georgetown is not The “Fab 5“ of Michigan. How many titles did THE FAB 5 win BTW? |
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Post by rockhoya on Oct 5, 2020 8:11:47 GMT -5
He’s referring to Georgetown ....and this being Georgetown’s version of a fab 5. And even if he is a little overly enthusiastic....why the need to Edited in peoples corn flakes. It’s all good folks. So that people don’t take hyperbole as fact or even a reasonable opinion? Plus it’s disrespectful to stronger classes that have come before it...nobody is taking issue with the idea of the Fab 5, just the notion that the shiny new toys are automatically superior to ALL classes that have come before. I think everyone understands he’s talking about Georgetown’s version of the Fab 5..........Maybe it’s easy for you to understand the poster was being hyperbolic, but most posters around here are liable to take that opinion as accurate when it’s not. Accuracy matters. I mean it’s not a big deal, but how useful/helpful would it be if I went around posting “Jordan Riley is the best guard that has ever committed to GU”. Okay sure that would be overly enthusiastic and it would be silly to take offense at someone trying to correct me...cause it’s clearly not the truth. And the truth matters, hence another posters reference to fake news. |
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Post by rockhoya on Oct 5, 2020 8:19:28 GMT -5
Watching his announcement video he has really good handles for a seven footer They all look like that in an empty gym by themselves, maybe I’m being hard on the kid but I thought the video showed they still need a lot of work... |
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Post by rockhoya on Oct 5, 2020 8:20:17 GMT -5
What recruiting class in Georgetown history formed a complete starting level unit of 5 players? The quote “as close to a “fab 5” as we have ever come” would therefore be accurate. Didn’t t know there were so many latent Wolverine fans lurking here. Going a level deeper after the defections & confusion of last season the importance of such a class for this program could be program altering once again making the as close to a “fab 5” for us be once again accurate. Read the damn post. “A “fab 5” at Georgetown is not The “Fab 5“ of Michigan. How many titles did THE FAB 5 win BTW? Otto’s class coming in, for one. You don’t have to look that far back. I LOVE the 2021 class and think it’s underrated, but I’d still take Otto’s class 9/10 if we’re talking about how they were when they stepped on campus. If Tyler doesn’t develop a heart condition and Greg doesn’t fumble the bag that group would’ve been very, very special. The tombs still had all the freshman at that point in time iirc, that was a squad... Jabril was a dog Greg was a dog at the 2 Otto was Otto Mikael had a better pedigree than Jalin Tyler had a better pedigree than Ryan does. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2020 8:38:04 GMT -5
Why can't we play two centers when Ryan gets here? Tim can still get his time too. I really don't see no problems at all. When Ryan gets here, we could have him stretch the floor and play inside (which I think he will be very good at) and have Q banging inside. A potential starting lineup could be:
C Mutombo
C Q
SF Sibley
SG Mohammed/Riley
PG Riley/Beard
Insert Riley at either the backup to Mohammed (if Mohammed chooses to come to Gtown) at the shooting guard position or pencil him in at the starting point guard (if Mohammed chooses Gtown).
If Mohammed chooses another school. Pencil in Beard at the starting point guard position and Riley at the starting shooting guard position.
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Post by paranoia2 on Oct 5, 2020 8:43:20 GMT -5
Before you people continue to corrupt an ACCURATE post there is no incoming class closer to a Fab 5 “complete starting unit with a PG, SG, SF, PF & Center “ that has arrived at Georgetown. Jabril was not a PG though he was a dog.
Nowhere do I label the potential 2021 recruiting class the best or most dominant in Hoya history.
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Post by trillesthoya on Oct 5, 2020 8:51:21 GMT -5
Man this is such a dumb convo. Who cares if it’s technically the best starting five class or not. Let people be happy and delusional for Pete’s sake that’s the whole purpose of college sports.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Oct 5, 2020 9:11:50 GMT -5
What recruiting class in Georgetown history formed a complete starting level unit of 5 players? Lots. Many of the pre-1972 classes, by the nature of freshmen eligibility, featured a theoretical starting five out of the freshmen teams. Since 1972, this threshold has been reached eight times, most recently in 2011 with a what-if lineup that included: Jabril Trawick (#80) Otto Porter (#34) Greg Whittington Mikael Hopkins (#98) Tyler Adams (#80) This was the class that, through no fault of its own, was the beginning of the end for JTIII and, by extension, has led to where Georgetown is today. The coaches never gave Trawick the reins to be the kind of player he could be. Hopkins was ineffective from day one. Adams' career ended within a month. But worse, the staff had no plan for replacing Porter and even less for Whittington. From this class, JT III started grasping at the Josh Smiths and Stephen Domingos of the recruiting world. JT III never recovered and Ewing hasn't done much better in the interim, which is why Georgetown went from #1 in the Big East in 2013 to a team competing with St. John's and DePaul in 2020. What surprised me was that anyone on this board could suggest a "Fab 5" reference for players currently ranked 95, 136, 141, and 147. The present recruiting class is not in the same universe as a 1990 Michigan class that included five national top 25 players (#3,4,5,9,and 24) and four Parade All-America selections. |
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Oct 5, 2020 9:18:21 GMT -5
Very excited to land Ryan! The ‘21 class was so important to right the direction of the program after last season. Pat has done a great job.
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Post by SDHoya on Oct 5, 2020 9:29:50 GMT -5
Good pickup. May Ryan be at least as successful a Hoya as Pat Jr (both in terms of individual and team accomplishments).
If a 5* drops from the sky, I'm sure Big Pat will find a way to welcome him. If not, still seems like we are pretty set for 2021 and beyond.
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Post by rockhoya on Oct 5, 2020 9:30:48 GMT -5
What recruiting class in Georgetown history formed a complete starting level unit of 5 players? Lots. Many of the pre-1972 classes, by the nature of freshmen eligibility, featured a theoretical starting five out of the freshmen teams. Since 1972, this threshold has been reached eight times, most recently in 2011 with a what-if lineup that included: Jabril Trawick (#80) Otto Porter (#34) Greg Whittington Mikael Hopkins (#98) Tyler Adams (#80) This was the class that, through no fault of its own, was the beginning of the end for JTIII and, by extension, has led to where Georgetown is today. The coaches never gave Trawick the reins to be the kind of player he could be. Hopkins was ineffective from day one. Adams' career ended within a month. But worse, the staff had no plan for replacing Porter and even less for Whittington. From this class, JT III started grasping at the Josh Smiths and Stephen Domingos of the recruiting world. JT III never recovered and Ewing hasn't done much better in the interim, which is why Georgetown went from #1 in the Big East in 2013 to a team competing with St. John's and DePaul in 2020. What surprised me was that anyone on this board could suggest a "Fab 5" reference for players currently ranked 95, 136, 141, and 147. The present recruiting class is not in the same universe as a 1990 Michigan class that included five national top 25 players (#3,4,5,9,and 24) and four Parade All-America selections. Apparently it’s unjust to point out that the original theory was fairly off base. Not sure we’ll get very far with facts on this one - don’t get your hopes up. |
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Post by TC on Oct 5, 2020 9:38:05 GMT -5
What recruiting class in Georgetown history formed a complete starting level unit of 5 players? The quote “as close to a “fab 5” as we have ever come” would therefore be accurate. Didn’t t know there were so many latent Wolverine fans lurking here. Going a level deeper after the defections & confusion of last season the importance of such a class for this program could be program altering once again making the as close to a “fab 5” for us be once again accurate. Read the damn post. “A “fab 5” at Georgetown is not The “Fab 5“ of Michigan. How many titles did THE FAB 5 win BTW? Iverson/Nichols/Aw/Williams/White was a way, way, way better class and constituted a complete starting level unit. No one is disputing that this class wouldn't be great, but when you talk about Fab 5 you talk about a class that makes the Finals their first year. This is not that. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2020 9:43:22 GMT -5
What recruiting class in Georgetown history formed a complete starting level unit of 5 players? Lots. Many of the pre-1972 classes, by the nature of freshmen eligibility, featured a theoretical starting five out of the freshmen teams. Since 1972, this threshold has been reached eight times, most recently in 2011 with a what-if lineup that included: Jabril Trawick (#80) Otto Porter (#34) Greg Whittington Mikael Hopkins (#98) Tyler Adams (#80) This was the class that, through no fault of its own, was the beginning of the end for JTIII and, by extension, has led to where Georgetown is today. The coaches never gave Trawick the reins to be the kind of player he could be. Hopkins was ineffective from day one. Adams' career ended within a month. But worse, the staff had no plan for replacing Porter and even less for Whittington. From this class, JT III started grasping at the Josh Smiths and Stephen Domingos of the recruiting world. JT III never recovered and Ewing hasn't done much better in the interim, which is why Georgetown went from #1 in the Big East in 2013 to a team competing with St. John's and DePaul in 2020. What surprised me was that anyone on this board could suggest a "Fab 5" reference for players currently ranked 95, 136, 141, and 147. The present recruiting class is not in the same universe as a 1990 Michigan class that included five national top 25 players (#3,4,5,9,and 24) and four Parade All-America selections. Nah 247sports.com/college/georgetown/Season/2014-Basketball/Commits/ |
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Post by professorhoya on Oct 5, 2020 9:57:01 GMT -5
Why can't we play two centers when Ryan gets here? Tim can still get his time too. I really don't see no problems at all. When Ryan gets here, we could have him stretch the floor and play inside (which I think he will be very good at) and have Q banging inside. A potential starting lineup could be: C Mutombo C Q SF Sibley SG Mohammed/Riley PG Riley/Beard Insert Riley at either the backup to Mohammed (if Mohammed chooses to come to Gtown) at the shooting guard position or pencil him in at the starting point guard (if Mohammed chooses Gtown). If Mohammed chooses another school. Pencil in Beard at the starting point guard position and Riley at the starting shooting guard position. Was just talking about this. You can go different combinations of twin towers the whole game |
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Post by Gammo on Oct 5, 2020 9:59:05 GMT -5
Thrilled!! Thanks so much for choosing Georgetown Ryan and adding your abilities to those of the other players to help make the program dominant again!!!!
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Post by hoyainla on Oct 5, 2020 10:02:50 GMT -5
Congrats to Ryan. I can't wait until after your freshman year and how many of the fans here will be speculating how you are going to leave for the NBA!
As for the silly Fab 5 comment. I would rank just the past 10 years of 5 or more person classes like so
2011 - Guess the lack of true PG could turn some off but pure talent wise they are it.
2014
2018 - If you include Yurt
2021
2020
2019 - maybe more talented than 2020 just couldn't play on the court as 5
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