mdtd
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Post by mdtd on Sept 3, 2020 14:43:27 GMT -5
While don't get me wrong, I'd love to have Ryan join the Hoyas, I am not sure this is the death blow some are making it out to be. If Ryan had a different last name and we lost him to Tennessee, I am not sure there'd be as big a reaction from this board.The bolded part is definitely true. But, I think that's the point. There is no expectation that the staff is going to pull in a somewhat random top 100 recruit. I mean, even the best recruiting programs still whiff on a lot of important targets. From the perspective of not getting one player, it's not a big deal. However, it is a big deal in the sense that (a) Georgetown has always stressed its tight family, (b) Dikembe Mutombo is part of that family and has always been (and still is) a big cheerleader for Georgetown, and (c) we basically have every advantage in recruiting Ryan, and we might miss out on him anyway. I think that last part is the driver of sentiment here. As I stated earlier in the thread, if we cannot pull in a guy like Ryan, with all the advantages we have, how are we going to fare recruiting other top 100 guys with no preexisting connection to Georgetown? I think people are more upset about how it reflects on the program as a whole - it is about more than recruiting one top 100 center. I also think this would matter less, if we didn't just lose an entire recruiting class to transfers and have such a big turnover this past year. I agree with the first part. But, that second part is an overreaction. The staff has landed Sibley, Akinjo, and LeBlanc, all top 100 players and other guys should be top 100 (Beard and Riley) but, that's beside the point. The optics of this are worse. If the staff replaces Ryan's potential scholarship spot with someone really good, I don't think anyone will care nearly as much. But, that's a huge if. If the staff goes back to two stars, I'm not sure if this class is good enough to put the Hoyas back to that spot where we want them to be. I think this class needs another piece to get to the Big Dance. If they don't get it, this will be looked at as the big miss. If they do, and we make the Big Dance, then this won't be a talking piece. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2020 14:56:01 GMT -5
Based on roster and recruits we have coming in what do you guys think is the biggest need we have right now?
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Post by wponds on Sept 3, 2020 14:59:23 GMT -5
Based on roster and recruits we have coming in what do you guys think is the biggest need we have right now? Wing that can produce right away |
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Post by trillesthoya on Sept 3, 2020 14:59:58 GMT -5
Based on roster and recruits we have coming in what do you guys think is the biggest need we have right now? A wing that can score. Maybe a pure point guard, but you also don't want to run off Beard. |
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Post by hoya9797 on Sept 3, 2020 15:33:24 GMT -5
Based on roster and recruits we have coming in what do you guys think is the biggest need we have right now? New coaches |
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Post by jwp91 on Sept 3, 2020 15:36:26 GMT -5
Based on roster and recruits we have coming in what do you guys think is the biggest need we have right now? A difference maker....at any position. |
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Post by TC on Sept 3, 2020 16:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by hoyadimes on Sept 3, 2020 16:52:11 GMT -5
He will play. By the time he hits campus I'm pretty sure he will be their only real center. I think they'll get someone else to play, too. I'd be shocked if Barnes doesn't try to land either a grad transfer or another prospect. Also they have seven footer in Uros Plavsic, who's a redshirt sophomore. |
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Post by hoyadimes on Sept 3, 2020 16:54:18 GMT -5
Although I'd love to see Ryan in a Hoya jersey, I have to agree with anyone who says it may be no reflection at all on the state of the program if Ryan chooses to go elsewhere. As with our own children is anything, its up to Ryan to choose his own path. If he doesn't desire Georgetown, why would we want him? None of the Rivers kids went to Marquette, Pat Jr started out at Indiana, the Curry kids passed on Virginia Tech and the list goes on and on. With all that being said.....COME HOME RYAN!! Hahaha!! The Curry kids didn’t pass on Tech, Tech passed on the Curry kids that’s why Greenberg is on ESPN right now |
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Post by hoyadimes on Sept 3, 2020 16:57:34 GMT -5
I may have used one incorrect example and I do appreciate the knowledge drop...but it doesn't change the point. There are at more than 50 father/sons that played elite level college bball, and there are plenty of them that played at different schools.
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Post by Lethal_Interjection on Sept 3, 2020 19:06:42 GMT -5
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dchoya72
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Post by dchoya72 on Sept 3, 2020 20:29:44 GMT -5
What is this?
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Post by Gammo on Sept 4, 2020 6:11:30 GMT -5
DCHoya72, if you are referring to the message just above, my response to you, with respect, is as follows. I take it at face value and as very transparent and thoughtful comments from a nice person. It seems he is reading various information sources, or is aware of social media exchanges regarding his recruitment and choices, and he simply is acknowledging the impact on him and saying that he appreciates the kind and supportive messages that he is seeing throughout this process. I find it impressive! My two cents. |
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Post by njhoyalawya on Sept 4, 2020 6:33:51 GMT -5
DCHoya72, if you are referring to the message just above, my response to you, with respect, is as follows. I take it at face value and as very transparent and thoughtful comments from a nice person. It seems he is reading various information sources, or is aware of social media exchanges regarding his recruitment and choices, and he simply is acknowledging the impact on him and saying that he appreciates the kind and supportive messages that he is seeing throughout this process. I find it impressive! My two cents. Agreed. Early reports that he needed some space with his decision, and for people not to push him too hard on social media, seem to have been spot on. Ryan seems like a great kid, from a great and loving family. In the end, I trust he will make whatever decision is best for him. I am sure it is a difficult spot to be in. On one hand, he would be in no better hands than Coach Ewing -- I can't imagine any other Coach who would care more about his development on and off the court. On the other hand, there is the pressure of following in his father's footsteps. I don't think anyone expects him to be his father -- they seem to have different games. I truly hope he finds the spot that is best for him. If Georgetown, that would be great. If not, I will still cheer him on (as long as we are not playing against him). On another note, there are some social media indications that the team will be together on campus this weekend! |
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dchoya72
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Post by dchoya72 on Sept 4, 2020 6:39:32 GMT -5
Thanks. I guess Ryan is being his own man. I kust wonder what he's looking for. He, I believe, has better options than most. What is he basing his decision on? He is family. We have three centers and he would need to kick butt to get playing time. Nothing will be handed to him. Does he want the challenge and scrutiny, or does he want a different environment?
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Post by hoyazeke on Sept 4, 2020 10:24:25 GMT -5
Based on roster and recruits we have coming in what do you guys think is the biggest need we have right now? Stretch PF.... |
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Post by trillesthoya on Sept 4, 2020 10:33:34 GMT -5
Based on roster and recruits we have coming in what do you guys think is the biggest need we have right now? Stretch PF.... In an ideal world that’s Billingsley. |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Sept 4, 2020 11:15:29 GMT -5
Based on roster and recruits we have coming in what do you guys think is the biggest need we have right now? New coaches Gotta give you credit for consistency. Then again, there is that whole hobgoblin thing. |
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Post by rockhoya on Sept 4, 2020 17:24:43 GMT -5
DCHoya72, if you are referring to the message just above, my response to you, with respect, is as follows. I take it at face value and as very transparent and thoughtful comments from a nice person. It seems he is reading various information sources, or is aware of social media exchanges regarding his recruitment and choices, and he simply is acknowledging the impact on him and saying that he appreciates the kind and supportive messages that he is seeing throughout this process. I find it impressive! My two cents. So he’s referring to his recruitment/basketball then? |
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Post by bicentennial on Sept 4, 2020 17:56:48 GMT -5
Gotta give you credit for consistency. Then again, there is that whole hobgoblin thing. They have dark orange or red-orange skin with hair that is red-brown to dark gray.[21] Their training has given them a proficiency with a multitude of weapons and armor. They are the strategic thinkers in the goblinoid race and hold an extreme hatred for elves. Their cavalry is known to ride worgs.[21] The hobgoblin fears cowardice more than dying. They start becoming soldiers the minute they can start walking. They have a high military standard, but they are not just a military. They have farms, traditions, and they build. However, under all of this, they are brutal and have "little space for joy or leisure in their lives" versus a giant creature of yellowish-green complexion with thin, ropey limbs that end in savagely hooked claws. They have sharply pointed facial features, and walk with a hunched, loping gait, somewhere between a chimp and a humanoid. Credit the dungeonsdragons.fandom.com/wiki for the above descriptions. I suspect clearly the later! |
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