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Post by bicentennial on Aug 22, 2018 19:32:54 GMT -5
So if I understand this the NCAA is going to use a new metric that only they have the algorithm for and they will provide no old information so no one can start to try to identify what goes into the metric. At the end of the year the metric will be used to decide what teams make the NCAA tournament! Great transparency.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Aug 22, 2018 19:45:22 GMT -5
So if I understand this the NCAA is going to use a new metric that only they have the algorithm for and they will provide no old information so no one can start to try to identify what goes into the metric. At the end of the year the metric will be used to decide what teams make the NCAA tournament! Great transparency. $$$$$$$$$ |
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Post by hoyainla on Aug 22, 2018 21:44:09 GMT -5
So if I understand this the NCAA is going to use a new metric that only they have the algorithm for and they will provide no old information so no one can start to try to identify what goes into the metric. At the end of the year the metric will be used to decide what teams make the NCAA tournament! Great transparency. This is to make sure they can keep the mid-majors out once the algo spits them out. I wonder how long it will take to get results that can be back tested. That is assuming there is actually an algo. |
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Post by seaweed on Aug 23, 2018 6:32:15 GMT -5
Isn't "artificial intelligence" pretty much synonymous with the NCAA? Don’t think anything about intelligence is synonymous with anything about the NCAA |
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Aug 23, 2018 18:12:03 GMT -5
The Division I NCAA schools should jointly work to get the secrecy of this overturned. Virtually all programs stand to benefit from more transparency. Moreover, with time, people are likely to figure out ways to approximate the NET figure anyway, so it's sort of silly.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Aug 23, 2018 18:15:23 GMT -5
We should be able to start piecing more together from other schools that announce their schedules earlier than we do.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Aug 23, 2018 18:55:22 GMT -5
We should be able to start piecing more together from other schools that announce their schedules earlier than we do. There are currently 162 schools which have not released their schedule. Taking out major conference schools which are not going to take a guarantee game and/or travel to Washington in December, and WCC and WAC schools who are not traveling east in December, you're down to 130 schools for six home games. The usual suspects are still on the clock. My guesses: 1) Howard 2) UMES 3) Savannah St. 4) Western Carolina 5) Liberty 6) Jackson St. A-10: Davidson A-10: Fordham A-10: La Salle A-10: Saint Louis A-10: VCU A-Sun: Florida Gulf Coast A-Sun: Jacksonville A-Sun: Kennesaw State A-Sun: Liberty A-Sun: Lipscomb A-Sun: NJIT A-Sun: North Alabama A-Sun: Stetson Am East: Maine Am East: Vermont Big Sky: Montana Big South: Campbell Big South: Charleston Southern Big South: Hampton Big South: High Point Big South: Radford Big South: UNC Asheville Big South: USC Upstate Big South: Winthrop Big West: Cal State Fullerton Big West: Cal State Northridge Big West: UC Riverside Big West: UC Santa Barbara C-USA: FIU C-USA: Florida Atlantic C-USA: Louisiana Tech C-USA: Middle Tennessee C-USA: North Texas C-USA: Southern Miss C-USA: UTSA C-USA: Western Kentucky CAA: Delaware CAA: Elon CAA: Hofstra Horizon: Cleveland State Horizon: IUPUI Horizon: Northern Kentucky Horizon: UIC Ivy: Columbia Ivy: Cornell Ivy: Dartmouth MAAC: Manhattan MAAC: Rider MAAC: St. Peter's MAC: Ball State MAC: Eastern Michigan MAC: Ohio MEAC: Bethune-Cookman MEAC: Coppin State MEAC: Delaware State MEAC: Florida A&M MEAC: Howard MEAC: Maryland-Eastern Shore MEAC: Morgan State MEAC: NC A&T MEAC: NC Central MEAC: Norfolk State MEAC: Savannah State MVC: Drake MVC: Indiana State MVC: Loyola-Chicago MVC: Northern Iowa MVC: Southern Illinois MWC: Fresno State MWC: New Mexico MWC: San Diego State MWC: San Jose State MWC: Utah State NEC: Central Conn State NEC: Robert Morris NEC: St. Francis-Brooklyn NEC: Wagner OVC: Belmont OVC: Morehead State OVC: Southeast Missouri OVC: Tennessee State OVC: Tennessee Tech OVC: UT-Martin Patriot: Army West Point Patriot: Colgate Patriot: Lafayette Patriot: Lehigh SoCon: East Tenn State SoCon: Furman SoCon: Mercer SoCon: Samford SoCon: UNC Greensboro SoCon: VMI SoCon: Western Carolina SoCon: Wofford Southland: Abilene Christian Southland: Houston Baptist Southland: Incarnate Word Southland: Lamar Southland: McNeese State Southland: Nicholls State Southland: Northwestern State Southland: Sam Houston State Southland: Southeast Louisiana Southland: Stephen F. Austin Summit: North Dakota Summit: North Dakota State Summit: Omaha Summit: Purdue Fort Wayne Summit: South Dakota Summit: South Dakota State Summit: Western Illinois Sun Belt: Appalachian State Sun Belt: Coastal Carolina Sun Belt: Georgia Southern Sun Belt: Georgia State Sun Belt: Little Rock Sun Belt: Louisiana-Monroe Sun Belt: South Alabama Sun Belt: Troy SWAC: Alabama A&M SWAC: Alabama State SWAC: Alcorn State SWAC: Arkansas-Pine Bluff SWAC: Grambling State SWAC: Jackson State SWAC: Miss Valley State SWAC: Prairie View A&M SWAC: Southern SWAC: Texas Southern |
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Post by CTHoya08 on Aug 24, 2018 11:25:33 GMT -5
The Division I NCAA schools should jointly work to get the secrecy of this overturned. Virtually all programs stand to benefit from more transparency. Moreover, with time, people are likely to figure out ways to approximate the NET figure anyway, so it's sort of silly.Doesn't this kind of assume that the NET formula will remain the same from year to year? If it's already secret, what's to stop the NCAA from tweaking the formula to get "better" results next year (and so on), and not telling anyone what changed? |
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Post by mdtd on Aug 24, 2018 14:26:38 GMT -5
One of those A-10 schools would be a nice addition. Or add in a school who is in a mid major conference but can play and beat us like a South Dakota St. One more solid game and I'm ok with our schedule. Don't want too many cake walks in year two.
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Post by lucky on Aug 24, 2018 14:37:07 GMT -5
I hope the Hoyas visit North Dakota, short car ride for me then!
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Post by drquigley on Aug 24, 2018 15:42:55 GMT -5
Having seen the two Howard guards light it up at Kenner we better be ready if we put Howard on the schedule.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Aug 27, 2018 14:43:34 GMT -5
December 22 - Home game against University of Arkansas at Little Rock lrtrojans.com/schedule.aspx?path=mbballFor those that follow recruiting, Markquis Nowell and Kamani Johnson are Freshmen on that team. |
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Post by SDHoya on Aug 27, 2018 15:00:17 GMT -5
December 22 - Home game against University of Arkansas at Little Rock lrtrojans.com/schedule.aspx?path=mbballFor those that follow recruiting, Markquis Nowell and Kamani Johnson are Freshmen on that team. This ain't Chris Beard's UALR. Last place in the Sun Belt last year. |
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Aug 27, 2018 17:01:16 GMT -5
The Division I NCAA schools should jointly work to get the secrecy of this overturned. Virtually all programs stand to benefit from more transparency. Moreover, with time, people are likely to figure out ways to approximate the NET figure anyway, so it's sort of silly.Doesn't this kind of assume that the NET formula will remain the same from year to year? If it's already secret, what's to stop the NCAA from tweaking the formula to get "better" results next year (and so on), and not telling anyone what changed? That's a very good point. All the more reason why there should be transparency. I have no problem with the NCAA creating a proprietary formula and trademarking it, etc., but this isn't a trade secret like the formula for Coca-Cola, nor should it be treated as such. |
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Post by mdtd on Aug 27, 2018 18:29:24 GMT -5
December 22 - Home game against University of Arkansas at Little Rock lrtrojans.com/schedule.aspx?path=mbballFor those that follow recruiting, Markquis Nowell and Kamani Johnson are Freshmen on that team. This ain't Chris Beard's UALR. Last place in the Sun Belt last year. And from the projections/predictions I've seen, they will stay in that range. Still hoping for something better. |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Aug 27, 2018 18:31:22 GMT -5
Doesn't this kind of assume that the NET formula will remain the same from year to year? If it's already secret, what's to stop the NCAA from tweaking the formula to get "better" results next year (and so on), and not telling anyone what changed? That's a very good point. All the more reason why there should be transparency. I have no problem with the NCAA creating a proprietary formula and trademarking it, etc., but this isn't a trade secret like the formula for Coca-Cola, nor should it be treated as such. I presume that the NCAA wants to create TV drama with a "reveal" show, does not work if the formula is public and every "expert" can publish the rankings ahead of the show. Silly since it is not the college football rankings for a playoff spot. |
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Post by hoyarooter on Aug 27, 2018 19:54:20 GMT -5
Is Derek Fisher still playing for UALR?
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Post by seaweed on Aug 27, 2018 23:38:31 GMT -5
Doesn't this kind of assume that the NET formula will remain the same from year to year? If it's already secret, what's to stop the NCAA from tweaking the formula to get "better" results next year (and so on), and not telling anyone what changed? That's a very good point. All the more reason why there should be transparency. I have no problem with the NCAA creating a proprietary formula and trademarking it, etc., but this isn't a trade secret like the formula for Coca-Cola, nor should it be treated as such. Why not? If the NCAA wants a proprietary secret sauce algorithms , who are younto stop them? |
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Aug 28, 2018 7:06:52 GMT -5
December 22 - Home game against University of Arkansas at Little Rock lrtrojans.com/schedule.aspx?path=mbballFor those that follow recruiting, Markquis Nowell and Kamani Johnson are Freshmen on that team. Classic December 22 "just do not lose game" which is fine with me. Better to follow that formula and be par for the course than to schedule a decent team in that trap setting and suffer a bad loss. |
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Post by CTHoya08 on Aug 28, 2018 11:07:11 GMT -5
That's a very good point. All the more reason why there should be transparency. I have no problem with the NCAA creating a proprietary formula and trademarking it, etc., but this isn't a trade secret like the formula for Coca-Cola, nor should it be treated as such. Why not? If the NCAA wants a proprietary secret sauce algorithms , who are younto stop them? Organizing a competition and not telling the competitors the rules of the competition certainly looks pretty fishy . . . |
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