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Post by johnnysnowplow on Feb 1, 2019 16:33:38 GMT -5
McClung and Akinjo have a chance to be as good as that Wright and Freeman backcourt. Better: Frosh Chris Wright: 5.7 ppg, 2.1 apg, 1.6 TOpg, 0.9 stlspg, 17.3 mpg Frosh Austin Freeman: 9.1 ppg, 1.6 apg, 1.4 TOpg, 0.9 stlspg, 25.6 mpg vs. Frosh James Akinjo: 13.9 ppg, 5.3 apg, 3.5 TOpg, 1.0 stlspg, 31.2 mpg Frosh Mac McClung: 13.8 ppg, 2.1 apg, 1.8 TOpg, 0.7 stlspg, 25.9 mpg Comparing stats at this point is somewhat pointless. There’s a lot of reasons Mac and James are putting up better numbers. If these two can become what Wright and Freeman were, we will be in very good hands for the next 3 years. They certainly appear to be on track though. |
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Post by prhoya on Feb 1, 2019 16:58:45 GMT -5
Better: Frosh Chris Wright: 5.7 ppg, 2.1 apg, 1.6 TOpg, 0.9 stlspg, 17.3 mpg Frosh Austin Freeman: 9.1 ppg, 1.6 apg, 1.4 TOpg, 0.9 stlspg, 25.6 mpg vs. Frosh James Akinjo: 13.9 ppg, 5.3 apg, 3.5 TOpg, 1.0 stlspg, 31.2 mpg Frosh Mac McClung: 13.8 ppg, 2.1 apg, 1.8 TOpg, 0.7 stlspg, 25.9 mpg Comparing stats at this point is somewhat pointless. There’s a lot of reasons Mac and James are putting up better numbers. If these two can become what Wright and Freeman were, we will be in very good hands for the next 3 years. They certainly appear to be on track though. Respectfully disagree. Unless you believe it's never right to compare players vs. others in similar positions on different teams, it gives an idea of where our frosh are at this stage of their careers. Of course, both situations will never be equal, but it's the only thing we have. Let's just hope we have Mackinjo for four years like Freeman-Wright. Hopefully, we can compare MackinjoCole to Freeman-Wright-Clark. |
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Post by EtomicB on Feb 1, 2019 17:39:13 GMT -5
Comparing stats at this point is somewhat pointless. There’s a lot of reasons Mac and James are putting up better numbers. If these two can become what Wright and Freeman were, we will be in very good hands for the next 3 years. They certainly appear to be on track though. Respectfully disagree. Unless you believe it's never right to compare players vs. others in similar positions on different teams, it gives an idea of where our frosh are at this stage of their careers. Of course, both situations will never be equal, but it's the only thing we have. Let's just hope we have Mackinjo for four years like Freeman-Wright. Hopefully, we can compare MackinjoCole to Freeman-Wright-Clark. Wright & Freeman weren't given near the freedom that Akinjo & McClung have been given, for good reason btw that team had an established core... Plus Wright was hurt for most of his frosh season... |
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Post by FHillsNYHoya on Feb 1, 2019 19:41:40 GMT -5
Akinjo showed me some leadership last night in another way. Never would have noticed it without being lucky enough to have very good seats last night. Very late in the second half, probably the last time X had a second look because of an offensive rebound, on the initial shot Mac was leaking out and as a result made it easier for X to get the rebound. During the play while still guarding his man James slapped his hands together and made it clear to Mac that the defensive possession, especially given the moment of the game, did not call for a leakout.
So let's just make sure we keep him away from the corner when being pressed.....
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Post by blueandgray on Feb 1, 2019 19:57:02 GMT -5
Love that we are even having this discussion...comparing Macintosh to two McDonald AA’s.
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Post by johnnysnowplow on Feb 1, 2019 22:10:37 GMT -5
Comparing stats at this point is somewhat pointless. There’s a lot of reasons Mac and James are putting up better numbers. If these two can become what Wright and Freeman were, we will be in very good hands for the next 3 years. They certainly appear to be on track though. Respectfully disagree. Unless you believe it's never right to compare players vs. others in similar positions on different teams, it gives an idea of where our frosh are at this stage of their careers. Of course, both situations will never be equal, but it's the only thing we have. Let's just hope we have Mackinjo for four years like Freeman-Wright. Hopefully, we can compare MackinjoCole to Freeman-Wright-Clark. Wright (and to a lesser extent Freeman) played far less minutes on a team that was 316th in tempo at 60 possessions per game. I mean, Wright was a backup guard as a freshman. Hell, Roy Hibbert led that team in scoring at only 13.6 per game. Neither of them were leaned upon to be go-to offensive players. And those guys were playing against much better competition in the old Big East. It’s an apples to oranges comparison. |
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Post by kettlehill on Feb 2, 2019 18:55:35 GMT -5
Watching Mich St. , I see a lot of Cassius Winston in James Akinjo. Damn, he is going to have a fine career...
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Feb 4, 2019 0:14:45 GMT -5
McClung and Akinjo have a chance to be as good as that Wright and Freeman backcourt. Better: Frosh Chris Wright: 5.7 ppg, 2.1 apg, 1.6 TOpg, 0.9 stlspg, 17.3 mpg Frosh Austin Freeman: 9.1 ppg, 1.6 apg, 1.4 TOpg, 0.9 stlspg, 25.6 mpg vs. Frosh James Akinjo: 13.9 ppg, 5.3 apg, 3.5 TOpg, 1.0 stlspg, 31.2 mpg Frosh Mac McClung: 13.8 ppg, 2.1 apg, 1.8 TOpg, 0.7 stlspg, 25.9 mpg As johnnysnowplow mentioned, the freshman Wright/Freeman team played at a very slow pace compared to this year's team (316th versus 17; or 62.7 possessions per game versus 73.5). This makes any "per game" stats pretty misleading, except minutes per game of course. Frosh Chris Wright: O Rating (points per possession): 107.8; assist rate: 25.1; turnover %: 20.4; steal %: 2.1; 2PT %: 56.5%; 32.3% Frosh Austin Freeman: O Rating (points per possession): 115.0; assist rate: 12.9; turnover %: 19.4; steal %: 1.8; 2PT %: 60.5%; 40.0% vs. Frosh James Akinjo: O Rating (points per possession): 101.4; assist rate: 30.2; turnover %: 22.1; steal %: 1.6; 2PT %: 35.3%; 40.2% Frosh Mac McClung: O Rating (points per possession): 99.3; assist rate: 16.4; turnover %: 14.8; steal %: 1.4; 2PT %: 50%; 3 PT%: 27.5% Overall, I would say Freeman/Wright were probably better, but it's closer than their recruiting rankings would show. The biggest difference I see is that both Freeman/Wright were significantly more efficient and shot better. Akinjo leads on assists over the bunch, despite the fact that Wright played in more of a pass-first offense. Freeman, in particular, was an excellent shooter, though. So, while I think Wright/Freeman were better freshman year, the more important thing is both of them got better their sophomore year. If McClung/Akinjo both do that we will be in very good shape. |
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Post by blueandgray on Feb 4, 2019 0:37:38 GMT -5
kid really played a great game today. Proud of him.
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Post by DanMcQ on Feb 4, 2019 12:24:57 GMT -5
The Big East agreed
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 12:27:51 GMT -5
1) Akinjo is shooting 46% from 3 in BE games.
2) 57 assists to 22 Turnovers in BE play...
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Post by bostonfan on Feb 4, 2019 13:17:52 GMT -5
1) Akinjo is shooting 46% from 3 in BE games. 2) 57 assists to 22 Turnovers in BE play... His play keeps improving every game. It is great to see. Coach Ewing is still coaching him hard, he pulled him late in the game because he jacked up a quick 3 that he did not need to take. It almost looked like Akinjo realized it was a bad decision and realized he was coming out. Learning to play smart in every situation is hard for young point guards but he is understanding more and more every game. Excited to see him at the end of this year and how far he has developed. |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 4, 2019 13:29:02 GMT -5
1) Akinjo is shooting 46% from 3 in BE games. 2) 57 assists to 22 Turnovers in BE play... His play keeps improving every game. It is great to see. Coach Ewing is still coaching him hard, he pulled him late in the game because he jacked up a quick 3 that he did not need to take. It almost looked like Akinjo realized it was a bad decision and realized he was coming out. Learning to play smart in every situation is hard for young point guards but he is understanding more and more every game. Excited to see him at the end of this year and how far he has developed. So Mac is not the only player who gets pulled for a mistake?? Who knew??! |
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Post by lichoya68 on Feb 4, 2019 13:30:02 GMT -5
youngins all coming along those three dynomite and grayson has skills also G OOHYAS WOWOWOWOWOWOOWOWOW
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Post by bostonfan on Feb 4, 2019 13:51:50 GMT -5
His play keeps improving every game. It is great to see. Coach Ewing is still coaching him hard, he pulled him late in the game because he jacked up a quick 3 that he did not need to take. It almost looked like Akinjo realized it was a bad decision and realized he was coming out. Learning to play smart in every situation is hard for young point guards but he is understanding more and more every game. Excited to see him at the end of this year and how far he has developed. So Mac is not the only player who gets pulled for a mistake?? Who knew??! All of these freshman come out of a high school environment where they were able to do whatever they wanted because they were too important to the teams to ever come out. Coach is trying to improve their decision making while not restricting their aggressiveness too much. Both Mac and James have so much self confidence that sometimes they force a play or two when they don't need to but that is part of what makes them so good. Both guys have really grown under the staff as the year has progressed and will both continue to get better. |
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Post by HometownHoya on Feb 4, 2019 13:53:09 GMT -5
Better: Frosh Chris Wright: 5.7 ppg, 2.1 apg, 1.6 TOpg, 0.9 stlspg, 17.3 mpg Frosh Austin Freeman: 9.1 ppg, 1.6 apg, 1.4 TOpg, 0.9 stlspg, 25.6 mpg vs. Frosh James Akinjo: 13.9 ppg, 5.3 apg, 3.5 TOpg, 1.0 stlspg, 31.2 mpg Frosh Mac McClung: 13.8 ppg, 2.1 apg, 1.8 TOpg, 0.7 stlspg, 25.9 mpg As johnnysnowplow mentioned, the freshman Wright/Freeman team played at a very slow pace compared to this year's team (316th versus 17; or 62.7 possessions per game versus 73.5). This makes any "per game" stats pretty misleading, except minutes per game of course. Frosh Chris Wright: O Rating (points per possession): 107.8; assist rate: 25.1; turnover %: 20.4; steal %: 2.1; 2PT %: 56.5%; 32.3% Frosh Austin Freeman: O Rating (points per possession): 115.0; assist rate: 12.9; turnover %: 19.4; steal %: 1.8; 2PT %: 60.5%; 40.0% vs. Frosh James Akinjo: O Rating (points per possession): 101.4; assist rate: 30.2; turnover %: 22.1; steal %: 1.6; 2PT %: 35.3%; 40.2% Frosh Mac McClung: O Rating (points per possession): 99.3; assist rate: 16.4; turnover %: 14.8; steal %: 1.4; 2PT %: 50%; 3 PT%: 27.5% Overall, I would say Freeman/Wright were probably better, but it's closer than their recruiting rankings would show. The biggest difference I see is that both Freeman/Wright were significantly more efficient and shot better. Akinjo leads on assists over the bunch, despite the fact that Wright played in more of a pass-first offense. Freeman, in particular, was an excellent shooter, though. So, while I think Wright/Freeman were better freshman year, the more important thing is both of them got better their sophomore year. If McClung/Akinjo both do that we will be in very good shape. You can't discount that Mac and James are options 2 and 3 while Chris and Austin were options 8 and 5 (at best). Both guys were very efficient and did a great job of picking their shots. It'll be interesting to compare the two backcourts by the end of their careers. Just need to get Mac and James a Jason Clark like 3rd guy (either Anthony or Baugh would be great). |
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Feb 4, 2019 14:58:07 GMT -5
You can't discount that Mac and James are options 2 and 3 while Chris and Austin were options 8 and 5 (at best). Both guys were very efficient and did a great job of picking their shots. It'll be interesting to compare the two backcourts by the end of their careers. Just need to get Mac and James a Jason Clark like 3rd guy (either Anthony or Baugh would be great). Definitely. This is why it's hard to make comparisons like this. On paper, the 2008 team clearly had way more talent. In fact, you could argue that on paper it was JT3's most talented team. You had four McDonald's All Americans in Wright, Freeman, Summers, and Macklin, seniors Roy Hibbert and Wallace who were great players, and excellent guys in support roles, too (Ewing Jr. among them). Four guys on that team would play in the NBA, even if only a small number of games (Hibbert, Ewing Jr., Summers, Macklin). McClung and Akinjo really have massive potential to form the best backcourt since that era, for sure. I agree we need a Clark type guard or a wing who can complement them. That would be the biggest pull for 2019 if we can get someone like that. |
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Post by DanMcQ on Feb 4, 2019 15:49:46 GMT -5
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 4, 2019 16:14:39 GMT -5
Keep 'em coming James. Maybe add Mac and/or Josh as co-freshman of the week? Or tri-freshmen?
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Post by tashoya on Feb 4, 2019 21:25:04 GMT -5
Way to go, James!
So far, IMO, Akinjo is the best freshman in the BE.
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