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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jan 4, 2020 12:58:31 GMT -5
I don’t know if you heard the sound during last nights game but I, and I’m sure Omar Yurtseven, distinctly heard the sound of NBA owners wallets closing. If I were Ewing I would tel Yurt that he has 16 games to get those wallets open again. While your point is valid as it relates to Omer's future, I am not sure that prodding him to play to impress NBA opinions is the best thing for our team. I have seen too many college kids trying to impress the scouts who end up dragging down their team (although I recognize that Yurt has helped drag us down anyway the last 2 games). Gotta be smarter - yes and tougher - on both ends.
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Jan 4, 2020 16:01:14 GMT -5
I can understand Yurt's clear frustrations. He is our only our only viable go-to guy in the middle right now, yet the officials seem locked in on him. Every little touch he gets called for it. If He is not on the floor, our chances of winning goes further out the window.
He can't win.
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Post by HamptonHoya on Jan 5, 2020 7:40:53 GMT -5
I don’t know if you heard the sound during last nights game but I, and I’m sure Omar Yurtseven, distinctly heard the sound of NBA owners wallets closing. If I were Ewing I would tel Yurt that he has 16 games to get those wallets open again. drq, what happened? You used to be such an optimistic fella. You don't appear to be a knee jerk, emotional, sky is falling type of guy.
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Post by professorhoya on Jan 5, 2020 8:18:43 GMT -5
I don’t know if you heard the sound during last nights game but I, and I’m sure Omar Yurtseven, distinctly heard the sound of NBA owners wallets closing. If I were Ewing I would tel Yurt that he has 16 games to get those wallets open again. Quigs talking out is his butt again. Good thing you aren’t coach or a motivator.
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Post by blueandgray on Jan 5, 2020 9:05:29 GMT -5
For the last couple of games, Yurt has been relying on his turnaround fall away far more than he should. I get going to that move once or twice a game, but for he and Georgetown to have success...he’s got to get back to establishing deep low post position and going up strong. I hope he can make that adjustment.
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Post by EtomicB on Jan 5, 2020 11:18:01 GMT -5
Yurt is way too soft. Against big men of equal height and strength he gets dominated. I saw it in the Syracuse game. He was completely intimidated by the Cuse big man. Sure he scored some garbage baskets toward the end when we broke the Syracuse press but what we saw the last two games will be par for the course the rest of the way. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if he does well against BE teams without a strong big and helps us win 5-6 bE games this year. Yurtseven practices against 7 footers every day in practice, hard for me to believe that height or physical play bothers him much... In my view it's much more scheme related, opponents would rather have other folks beat them than Yurtseven...
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Post by cgallstar02 on Jan 5, 2020 21:06:08 GMT -5
Yurt is way too soft. Against big men of equal height and strength he gets dominated. I saw it in the Syracuse game. He was completely intimidated by the Cuse big man. Sure he scored some garbage baskets toward the end when we broke the Syracuse press but what we saw the last two games will be par for the course the rest of the way. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if he does well against BE teams without a strong big and helps us win 5-6 bE games this year. Yurtseven practices against 7 footers every day in practice, hard for me to believe that height or physical play bothers him much... In my view it's much more scheme related, opponents would rather have other folks beat them than Yurtseven... I don't know, Gill seemed to really bother him. And while I don't know for sure, I'd say Gill is a few inches taller and several inches longer in wingspan than Tim and Q, who I'm guessing usually guard Yurt in practice. On top of that, he has good bulk, which is rare for someone with that kind of length, since usually those guys are rail thin. It was clear Yurt could neither shoot over him, nor out muscle him, leaving the fade away as his go to. In the next meeting he needs to mix in more pump fakes, post moves, and simply going up strong and risk getting blocked in hopes of getting fouled. Would also be nice if PE would run more plays for Yurt to shoot threes, especially in games like that where he's struggling down low. Lastly, the guards, mainly Mac and Allen need to look to drive and dish to Yurt more... get him a few easy dunks/layups to get his confidence going. The good news is, while I won't pretend I know every starting center in the BE, I find it hard to believe there will be a tougher matchup for Yurt going forward than Gill was. Realistically, we need around 20 and 10 from Yurt every game to be competitive. If he continues to struggle like he has the first 2 games, we have virtually no chance of success.
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Post by s4hoyas on Jan 5, 2020 22:58:40 GMT -5
Yurt needs (with coaches assistance) to work on/develop old school up and under power moves so that he can use his body and the rim to effectively score and/or get fouled as opposed to trying to shoot over a very tall 7'2 guy like Gill...also on occasion take him outside and either shoot or feed cutters once the shot blocker has been pulled away from the basket...he can also use the short range hook shot...pump fake one way to get his man moving in that direction, then go the other way with the short hook...most of all, play tough and determined and as John Wooden use to say, "be quick, but don't hurry."
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Post by eastcoastteddy58 on Jan 8, 2020 20:57:19 GMT -5
I understood why Govan played soft last year but Yurtseven has no reason, none at all.
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Post by hoyas315 on Jan 8, 2020 21:02:08 GMT -5
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Post by Filo on Jan 8, 2020 21:03:51 GMT -5
I understood why Govan played soft last year but Yurtseven has no reason, none at all. Really frustrating to watch, especially the soft turnovers and getting pushed around. Damn.
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Post by blueandgray on Jan 8, 2020 21:08:21 GMT -5
Yurt’s intensity is no better than Jesse’s at this point, nor is his decision making. I honestly believe he would benefit from playing another year at Georgetown.
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Post by wponds on Jan 8, 2020 21:13:34 GMT -5
Only was able to watch the second half, but from what I saw, he's gotta hold onto that ball stronger and keep it high. Not always gonna have the best game scoring the ball, but if you can cut down on making the other mistakes, that goes a long way.
He looked a little mentally drained to me, but who knows. Glad we got the win, time to get ready for Nova
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Post by njhoya78 on Jan 8, 2020 21:14:22 GMT -5
Passing on criticizing Yurtseven tonight, after he took the elbow to the right eyebrow in the first half, retired for repairs, and played with a bandage thereafter. Yes, he didn't play as strongly as I wpouild have liked to have seen, but I think he may well have been playing at a lower level of intensity once he returned to the court and saw that GU was way ahead.
That all being written, it better be a different Yurtseven on Saturday to give the Hoyas any chance at Villanova.
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Jan 8, 2020 22:23:13 GMT -5
I know Yurt has talked about the Big East being the best conference, however, I am wondering if he expected it to be this physical.
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Post by DanMcQ on Jan 9, 2020 7:51:31 GMT -5
I know Yurt has talked about the Big East being the best conference, however, I am wondering if he expected it to be this physical. Playing in this conference, and playing WELL, is crucial to his development if his goal is playing in the NBA. Good on Pat to not be satisfied with just a double double.
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Post by bostonfan on Jan 9, 2020 8:23:20 GMT -5
I know Yurt has talked about the Big East being the best conference, however, I am wondering if he expected it to be this physical. I agree with this statement. I think Yurt is still a little surprised by just how physical the Big East game is. He is a very talented player and I think he will adjust and be one of the teams strongest players by year end. He had success in the ACC where I think the game is probably a little more "skilled and athletic" where the Big East is more of a bruising and physical league. He has the size, strength and skill to be very successful in the Big East and I am sure he realizes that playing well in the Big East will help his draft status.
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Post by augustusfinknottle on Jan 9, 2020 8:56:23 GMT -5
No doubt he has been told, for a long time, "You have to be stronger with the ball". For whatever reason he is not able to do it. Surely he's tried but it's more than a "mind set" thing. In large part it's raw strength.
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Post by tashoya on Jan 9, 2020 9:02:15 GMT -5
Yurt’s intensity is no better than Jesse’s at this point, nor is his decision making. I honestly believe he would benefit from playing another year at Georgetown. He needs a solid year of hitting the weights.
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Post by joey0403p on Jan 9, 2020 9:16:06 GMT -5
Yurt’s intensity is no better than Jesse’s at this point, nor is his decision making. I honestly believe he would benefit from playing another year at Georgetown. He needs a solid year of hitting the weights. Careful - I got called names when I suggested he should come back to school....
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