Mac McClung

[hoyas212]

Jan 19, 2022 16:25:51 GMT -5 cgallstar02 said:

Jan 18, 2022 19:22:43 GMT -5 hoyas212 said:

Even if you disagree with peoples’ assessment of his professional basketball potential, you could do the math. What percentage of the NBA is comprised of undrafted U.S. born college players? It’s a very small percentage.

Here's a list of undrafted players that played in the NBA... while the list includes players who have only played a few games and cover every year in history, let's focus in on the last few years and the players that have carved out starting or rotational roles in the NBA. 

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Basketball_Association_undrafted_players

Now, it generally takes UDFA's longer to get going since they usually don't get to the league for a year or two after their draft and even then it takes a team longer to give them a shot, so let's go back a few years and look at the 2016 draft. To be quick, I'm only checking out players I'm familiar with as current NBA guys. 

2016... wikipedia stats aren't including this seasons NBA stats so those games played and started aren't added

Ryan Arcidiacano 207 GP, 36 GS
Alex Caruso 184 GP, 19 GS
Yogi Ferrell 259 GP, 53 GS
Dorian Finney Smith 314 GP, 202 GS
Bryn Forbes 331 GP, 165 GS
Shaq Harrison 173 GP, 23 GS
Danuel House 179 GP, 92 GS
Derrick Jone's Jr 229 GP, 89 GS
Damion Lee 153 GP, 48 GS
David Nwaba 191 GP, 46 GS
Gary Payton 71 GP, 23 GS
Wayne Selden 127 GP, 27 GS
Fred Van Fleet 283 GP, 134 GS

So that's at least 13 UDFA's that carved out roles in the NBA from one draft class. There were probably several I missed as well. Every guys path is obviously different. Caruso for instance was way behind Arcidicano his first couple seasons, but now Arch is essentially out of the league while Caruso is starting for one of the best teams in the league and just signed a pretty big contract. 

Now let's look at Mac's draft class. While there's a ton of factors that will go in to a UDFA becoming a full time NBA player, the one unbiased, non opinion related factor would be stats. The G League 50 game season is about 1/3rd complete. In order to qualify for a league leader, you need to of played 6 games or more. Mac has played 16. Mac ranks 15th in the G League in scoring, and 12th in assists. Of the players from Mac's draft class, both drafted and undrafted you've got 2 ahead of him in scoring, Carlik Jones (UDFA) and Brandon Boston (2nd round pick) only 6 games played since's he's mainly with the big club now. Assists you've got Ayayi, McKinley Wright, and RJ Nebhard ahead of Mac, all UDFA's. 

Based on looking at the 2016 class, it's safe to assume that an average of 10 or so guys per draft will go from UDFA to essentially being real NBA players and not just there for a few games type of thing. Looking at Mac's G League stats, he seems to be one of the top 2 or 3 guys along with Carlik Jones from his draft class, not only for UDFA's, but a lot of 2nd and even some first round picks have been playing primarily in the G League from Mac's class, yet he seems to be outperforming pretty much all of them. 

Even more impressive, Mac is doing that as being undrafted and not on a 2 way, since teams are generally prioritizing their 2 way guys and draft picks in terms of playing time and offensive focal point. Additionally, Mac is on arguably the most talented team in the G League outside of the Ignite. Frank Mason, Cam Oliver, Mason Jones, Chaundee Brown, Jay Huff, Sekou Dembouya, Paris Bass, Stanley Johnson. To lead that team in scoring and be ranked 12th in the G League in assists is pretty impressive considering how much NBA talent is there. 

So if 10 guys from this class will go from UDFA (there's one seemingly already in Austin Reeves) to long term NBA players and Mac is outperforming virtually all of them, one would have to think that's a pretty good barometer that Mac has a decent chance to be one of those 10 or so guys. Of course he may not, but you can't deny that at least for now he's certainly trending in that direction. 

It's not safe to assume based on 1 draft class that an average of 10 guys per draft class will be real NBA players.  A sample size of 5-10 recent draft classes would be more indicative.  Even if there were 10 per class, that is still very long odds and G League stats mean almost nothing.  Guys coming from the G League are going to be role players.  If Mac did somehow make the NBA for a prolonged period of time, he would never be allowed to be the ball dominant player he has been at GU, TT, and the G League.  Most G League players that last in the NBA have a signature NBA skill, i.e. rebounding, defense, 3 point shooting.  Mac doesn't have that.  He's athletic, but a lot of guys are athletic.  There is no refuting that he has an objectively minuscule chance to stick in the G League.  Thinking that he does have a decent chance or that he is a similar player to Jason Williams is purely Gate City fanboy fantasy land.   

[hoyas212]

Jan 19, 2022 17:02:23 GMT -5 cgallstar02 said:

Jan 18, 2022 9:56:34 GMT -5 hoyas212 said:

Changing the subject because you're entirely incorrect, just as you were about how good NBA scouts are at their jobs.  Yurtseven was already on NBA team's radars when he came to Georgetown.  People were critical of his play and nobody thought he'd be setting rookie rebounding records, but nobody is surprised he's an NBA player.  Only Georgetown fans thought Jamorko Pickett had a shot at the NBA, and he's already on a 2 way contract and has been called up multiple times.  Saying Aminu's decision making and game have a long way to go isn't doubting his NBA chances.  Everyone recognizes his potential based on size, skill, and work ethic.  As much animosity as people have for Akinjo, don't think anyone would be too surprised if he is able to develop into a backup pg in the league.

Mac had a good college career, he way overachieved based on his ranking.  His success was predicated on his ability to penetrate and draw fouls, which he would never be able to do at the NBA level.  It's pretty cool that he got to have a cup of coffee in the NBA because a pandemic necessitated an unprecedented number of G League call ups.  To compare him to Jason Williams or say he's got NBA rotation potential is just Gate City cult delusion.  The NBA isn't looking for small shoot first guards who don't shoot or defend very well.  His basketball playing future is 99% more likely to be in Cypress than Chicago.

Where did I say he wasn't on NBA radars? That's exactly why folks were bashing his NBA chances. No one was ever trashing guys like Allen, Blair, Mosely, Malinowski, etc in terms of their NBA chances because they were never considered as possible NBA players. Only players thought to have somewhat of a chance (Akinjo, Mac, Yurt, Pickett, etc) got bashed about how they would never make the league. 

Also, since you claim to of been around back then to authoritatively claim to know what was being said about Yurt during his time here, who were you posting as back then? Your account says it was created in 2021 and I have no clue who I'm even talking to. 

Now as for Yurt and the opinions of many on this board, let's look at some gems from a mid season thread that was titled "Yurtseven's Struggles" and had to be renamed because the original title was too offensive. This is a collection of comments from that thread followed by just a few from Yurt's own thread. 

1. One thing is for sure....Wahab has more upside than both and knows what to do with the ball when he has it down low.

2. Amen brother!!!!

3. Good luck in the WNBA Omer!

4. Why did anyone expect him to be different than the player he was at NC State. He chose to sit out a year when he was already a starter on a high major team. It was a bizarre decision. He wanted to go to the NBA but he's not an NBA player.

5. They are both on Dickie vs all charmin team.

6. This kid is more hard-headed than Govan, and that's a lot to say. At least Govan showed a superlative feature in his 3-pt shooting. Omer and Pat have scrapped that part of his game. I wonder what feedback he will receive from the NBA workouts and if he'll then leave school or return, go to Europe or the G-League.

7. He needs to learn how to finish when he's two feet away from the basket. A falling away hook shot with no arch just doesn't cut it....especially when you have a 4 inch height difference than the guy guarding you. Time to get tough Omer!! Sheesh.

8. Q really showed me a lot tonight. If he got a step on his defender, he was looking to tear the rim down every chance he got. A far cry from our current and most recent former starting centers.

Even PC McQ gets in on the action taking a slight jab at Yurt's D with this one. 

9. I thought the postgame reply by Ewing that he wants to see more from Q on the defensive end was curious. Hard to claim the defense was vastly better last night with the starter in there.

10. Yurt is flawed. I don’t see his chances in the nba, anyone with size can shut him down. He is a nice college player and can def play professionally if he’d like. I just don’t think that will be in nba

11. Ewing didn’t fade away like Yurtseven and wasn’t soft.

Now here's a few from Yurt's thread

1. He is SOFT. Will be a pro but most likely not in the NBA.

2. Seems like a nice guy & I hope he has a solid career in the pros....not the NBA. Not good enough. Don’t care about metrics, usage or scheme I simply think of one 4 letter word when I think of Yurtseven: S-O-F-T .

3. Why would Yurt return? Would he improve his stock enough to warrant first round NBA money? Considering how he was manhandled by the better big men in our league this year I see no future for him in the NBA. He blew his chance to impress this year. He's headed to Europe and eventually a successful career outside of basketball. Nice guy, some soft basketball skills but seriously lacking in basketball meanery.

4. If by "get a chance," you mean he'll get invited to Portsmouth (if that even happens with Covid19), then, yes, he'll get another chance to prove he's not as soft offensively, as slow defensively and as generally ineffective against like-sized guys as he looked this season. I'd love to have him back given our returning roster and its many holes. I think there would be plenty of minutes for him and Qudus, so don't put me in the camp that thinks his return would slow Wahab's growth one bit. That said, I don't think it would help him that much to come back. What he does well (great shot from inside '12, a nice array of fadeaway moves, solid movement without the ball and decent passer) and what he does not (horrific finisher for size in close, slow defensive recovery, unproven deep shot) isn't likely to change that much with another year.

5. He's a pure finesse guy with slow feet and no "meanery." Those guys do better in the NBA than the Big East, but only if they are considerably more efficient than Yurt on the offensive end. He left a LOT of points out there on missed bunnies and mishandled putbacks and can't cover one 4 or 5 in the NBA...not ONE...on a single roster. In fact, he's so marginal athletically and generally passive, I'm not sure there's a 3 in the NBA who wouldn't eat him up on both ends of a matchup. I see him as a solid reserve on a pro team in Europe. 

6. In my opinion Yurtseven is slow and not very athletic. He has a great jump shot, I have not seen outstanding range. And I would consider him slow. He appears massive but doesn't move quickly at all.

7. It's not just that he is slow, it's also that he plays soft. Q doesn't need to play 40mins. We just need Tim or Malcolm to be able to spell Q for 10-15mins. I would take a tough guy like Jones(Xavier) everyday over a more skilled softy like Yurt. Q gives the toughness and most of the skillset...

8. I am hoping against hope, more than anything else heading into the offseason, that he is not back next year. It was a failed experiment. A risk worth taking at the time, but a pretty poor outcome for all parties. Move on.

To be fair there was very small hand full of posters that seemed to genuinely believe in Yurt as a future NBA player. And a decent amount that while certainly not calling him a future NBAer were at least supportive and basically would say, why bash him, he's a Hoya, support him and wish him the best. 

Only players thought to have somewhat of a chance (Akinjo, Mac, Yurt, Pickett, etc) got bashed about how they would never make the league. = More Gate City nonsense.  Akinjo, Yurtseven, and Pickett came to college as top 100 guys. Mac wasn't close to being as highly regarded.  

Not breaking news that people on message boards have different opinions, and can be negative when a program is struggling as often as Georgetown has.  Sorry that having a good college basketball player come from Gate City is the best thing to ever happen there, doesn't change the fact that it's highly unlikely that he develops into a long-term NBA player.  Time will tell.

[cgallstar02]

Jan 18, 2022 9:56:34 GMT -5 hoyas212 said:

Jan 18, 2022 3:19:36 GMT -5 cgallstar02 said:

Says the same group of geniuses who trashed Yurtseven on a daily basis two years ago about how'd he never be an NBA player. Same group that's now doubting Aminu's chances as an NBA player... if that's where the opinions are now, just imagine if he ever decided to transfer? He'd go from borderline NBAer to G League benchwarmer in about 5 minutes. Funny how every good player that transfers suddenly has no chance at the NBA, and even the good ones that stick around get very little respect since most fans seem unable to differentiate the players abilities from the ineptitude of their coach. 

Changing the subject because you're entirely incorrect, just as you were about how good NBA scouts are at their jobs.  Yurtseven was already on NBA team's radars when he came to Georgetown.  People were critical of his play and nobody thought he'd be setting rookie rebounding records, but nobody is surprised he's an NBA player.  Only Georgetown fans thought Jamorko Pickett had a shot at the NBA, and he's already on a 2 way contract and has been called up multiple times.  Saying Aminu's decision making and game have a long way to go isn't doubting his NBA chances.  Everyone recognizes his potential based on size, skill, and work ethic.  As much animosity as people have for Akinjo, don't think anyone would be too surprised if he is able to develop into a backup pg in the league.

Mac had a good college career, he way overachieved based on his ranking.  His success was predicated on his ability to penetrate and draw fouls, which he would never be able to do at the NBA level.  It's pretty cool that he got to have a cup of coffee in the NBA because a pandemic necessitated an unprecedented number of G League call ups.  To compare him to Jason Williams or say he's got NBA rotation potential is just Gate City cult delusion.  The NBA isn't looking for small shoot first guards who don't shoot or defend very well.  His basketball playing future is 99% more likely to be in Cypress than Chicago.

Your whole changing the subject thing lasted an entire paragraph. 

Now on to your comment on Akinjo which is laughable. Clearly you haven't been paying attention. From the day Mac, James and Q all transferred their NBA chances went from not very good to absolutely 0 on the board. Here's one from your pal tashoya

Sure, sure. But, Dante is a team guy. James is aggrieved in his first two college seasons even though he's been given every opportunity at both places. Apparently, the problem is the coaches and not James. James isn't an NBA player. Never will be. But, he hasn't gotten that memo. Dante, all day, every day. And, he works his butt off on defense. Twice on Sunday.

So I guess it's safe to say he'll be surprised. Meanwhile Dante's a stud, cus you know, he didn't transfer. His opinion on Dante would change in a blink if he did.

Simply not true. Let's look at some other smaller guards were familiar with. Per 40 mins for his career Akinjo has attempted 5.5 free throws, Mac 6.3, Markus Howard 7.0, Myles Powell 5.3. So the gap between him and Akinjo is less than 1 free throw per game... for an 80% shooter that's less than an extra .7 ppg he's getting from drawing more fouls than James. In what way is that what determined his success? He's a 3 level scorer than can drive and finish, hit the midrange, and hit 3's. Does he get to the line a decent amount? Sure, but that isn't his bread and butter. He currently ranks 25th in the G League in free throws attempted while ranking 15th in scoring which means he's likely relying less on free throws for his scoring than most of his counterparts. 

The stuff about him not being able to penetrate at the next level is the exact same BS we heard about Yurt... he's too soft, 6'8 college guys are pushing him around imagine what NBA 7 footers will do to him, blah blah blah. How'd that work out? He's better in the NBA down low than he ever was in college. And while Mac isn't doing it in the NBA, he get's to the hole way better and easier in the G League than he ever did in college. Way more dunks, way more layups, it's not even close. The NBA spacing is a huge advantage for guys like Mac on their dribble drives. The game before last, his outside shot was way off... he still hit 9 shots, 8 of them layups/dunks for 18 pts with 0 free throws. 

As for him being a shoot first guard, lets look at some other PG's in the G League. Sharife Cooper, someone everyone would call a "pure PG" takes more shots than Mac in less minutes and also averages less assists. Mckinley Wright, Im sure Hoya fans are familiar with and don't question his PG skills. Takes only 1 less shot per game than Mac, and averages .8 apg more than Mac. Brandon Knight former first round pick with a long career starting in the NBA at PG takes 3 more shots per game than Mac and averages less assists. The only difference between Mac and these guys is they played PG in college, Mac played SG and was a scorer and now has that stigma. Since joining the G League Mac plays PG and takes a very similar amount of shots while dishing out a very similar number of assists as 3 guys people would gladly call "pure point guards"... even more impressive is the fact that's he's essentially learning the position having barely played it in college and is already doing as good or better than guys that played it their entire careers. 

[cgallstar02]

Jan 19, 2022 17:03:40 GMT -5 hoyas212 said:

It's not safe to assume based on 1 draft class that an average of 10 guys per draft class will be real NBA players.  A sample size of 5-10 recent draft classes would be more indicative.  Even if there were 10 per class, that is still very long odds and G League stats mean almost nothing.  Guys coming from the G League are going to be role players.  If Mac did somehow make the NBA for a prolonged period of time, he would never be allowed to be the ball dominant player he has been at GU, TT, and the G League.  Most G League players that last in the NBA have a signature NBA skill, i.e. rebounding, defense, 3 point shooting.  Mac doesn't have that.  He's athletic, but a lot of guys are athletic.  There is no refuting that he has an objectively minuscule chance to stick in the G League.  Thinking that he does have a decent chance or that he is a similar player to Jason Williams is purely Gate City fanboy fantasy land.   

Well then look at other classes for yourself... I'm not gonna waste time typing out 5 draft classes... quickly glancing at the 2015 class I easily see 10 guys or more. I also averaged down on the 2016 class, I pointed out 13 guys, which again was probably closer to 15 or 16 since Im not familiar with every NBA player and then averaged down to 10 since that may have been a stronger class than normal. 

How is it very long odds if 10 per class make it and a guy is outperforming virtually everyone in his class? Obviously it's far from a sure thing but assuming he can keep that level of play up throughout the rest of the season and doesn't suffer a major injury, it has to put him in the 50/50 realm of being one of those 10 or so guys from his class. 

And saying stats meaning almost nothing is comical... its literally the only unbiased thing we can use to evaluate his play as a professional which one would thing would be a strong indicator of his future NBA chances. Beyond that, I can absolutely assure you if he were averaging 8 pts and 2 assists right now, that would be the very first thing you'd be throwing in my face, about how terrible his G League numbers are and if he can't perform there he sure can't perform in the NBA. Since they don't support your argument stats have suddenly become meaningless. Got it. 

Curious, what is Kendrick Nunn's signature skill? He's the same height as Mac at 6'2. Less athletic than Mac. Doesn't dribble or pass as good. He's a better shooter but not by a lot, certainly not enough for that to be considered his signature skill... he's no Duncan Robinson. His 1 G League season he played 49 games and shot 33% from three. He's much less of a PG than Mac. Never even averaged 2 apg at IL in college and averaged less than 3 apg in G League. Is not known as a good defender. So where's his signature skill. We have a less athletic player than Mac with the same height with less point guard skills and only a slightly better outside shooter... mind you he also spent 5 years in college and 1 year in G League before making his NBA debut, so Mac who is in what would be his 4th year of college has plenty of time to become as good or better of a shooter, especially considering it's a not a wide gap to begin with. Despite no signature skill Nunn started almost every game as a rookie for a team that made the finals. Of course I don't expect that from Mac, but to insulate one needs a signature skill is simply not true as Nunn clearly proves. 

[cgallstar02]

Jan 19, 2022 17:17:13 GMT -5 hoyas212 said:

Jan 19, 2022 17:02:23 GMT -5 cgallstar02 said:

Where did I say he wasn't on NBA radars? That's exactly why folks were bashing his NBA chances. No one was ever trashing guys like Allen, Blair, Mosely, Malinowski, etc in terms of their NBA chances because they were never considered as possible NBA players. Only players thought to have somewhat of a chance (Akinjo, Mac, Yurt, Pickett, etc) got bashed about how they would never make the league. 

Also, since you claim to of been around back then to authoritatively claim to know what was being said about Yurt during his time here, who were you posting as back then? Your account says it was created in 2021 and I have no clue who I'm even talking to. 

Now as for Yurt and the opinions of many on this board, let's look at some gems from a mid season thread that was titled "Yurtseven's Struggles" and had to be renamed because the original title was too offensive. This is a collection of comments from that thread followed by just a few from Yurt's own thread. 

1. One thing is for sure....Wahab has more upside than both and knows what to do with the ball when he has it down low.

2. Amen brother!!!!

3. Good luck in the WNBA Omer!

4. Why did anyone expect him to be different than the player he was at NC State. He chose to sit out a year when he was already a starter on a high major team. It was a bizarre decision. He wanted to go to the NBA but he's not an NBA player.

5. They are both on Dickie vs all charmin team.

6. This kid is more hard-headed than Govan, and that's a lot to say. At least Govan showed a superlative feature in his 3-pt shooting. Omer and Pat have scrapped that part of his game. I wonder what feedback he will receive from the NBA workouts and if he'll then leave school or return, go to Europe or the G-League.

7. He needs to learn how to finish when he's two feet away from the basket. A falling away hook shot with no arch just doesn't cut it....especially when you have a 4 inch height difference than the guy guarding you. Time to get tough Omer!! Sheesh.

8. Q really showed me a lot tonight. If he got a step on his defender, he was looking to tear the rim down every chance he got. A far cry from our current and most recent former starting centers.

Even PC McQ gets in on the action taking a slight jab at Yurt's D with this one. 

9. I thought the postgame reply by Ewing that he wants to see more from Q on the defensive end was curious. Hard to claim the defense was vastly better last night with the starter in there.

10. Yurt is flawed. I don’t see his chances in the nba, anyone with size can shut him down. He is a nice college player and can def play professionally if he’d like. I just don’t think that will be in nba

11. Ewing didn’t fade away like Yurtseven and wasn’t soft.

Now here's a few from Yurt's thread

1. He is SOFT. Will be a pro but most likely not in the NBA.

2. Seems like a nice guy & I hope he has a solid career in the pros....not the NBA. Not good enough. Don’t care about metrics, usage or scheme I simply think of one 4 letter word when I think of Yurtseven: S-O-F-T .

3. Why would Yurt return? Would he improve his stock enough to warrant first round NBA money? Considering how he was manhandled by the better big men in our league this year I see no future for him in the NBA. He blew his chance to impress this year. He's headed to Europe and eventually a successful career outside of basketball. Nice guy, some soft basketball skills but seriously lacking in basketball meanery.

4. If by "get a chance," you mean he'll get invited to Portsmouth (if that even happens with Covid19), then, yes, he'll get another chance to prove he's not as soft offensively, as slow defensively and as generally ineffective against like-sized guys as he looked this season. I'd love to have him back given our returning roster and its many holes. I think there would be plenty of minutes for him and Qudus, so don't put me in the camp that thinks his return would slow Wahab's growth one bit. That said, I don't think it would help him that much to come back. What he does well (great shot from inside '12, a nice array of fadeaway moves, solid movement without the ball and decent passer) and what he does not (horrific finisher for size in close, slow defensive recovery, unproven deep shot) isn't likely to change that much with another year.

5. He's a pure finesse guy with slow feet and no "meanery." Those guys do better in the NBA than the Big East, but only if they are considerably more efficient than Yurt on the offensive end. He left a LOT of points out there on missed bunnies and mishandled putbacks and can't cover one 4 or 5 in the NBA...not ONE...on a single roster. In fact, he's so marginal athletically and generally passive, I'm not sure there's a 3 in the NBA who wouldn't eat him up on both ends of a matchup. I see him as a solid reserve on a pro team in Europe. 

6. In my opinion Yurtseven is slow and not very athletic. He has a great jump shot, I have not seen outstanding range. And I would consider him slow. He appears massive but doesn't move quickly at all.

7. It's not just that he is slow, it's also that he plays soft. Q doesn't need to play 40mins. We just need Tim or Malcolm to be able to spell Q for 10-15mins. I would take a tough guy like Jones(Xavier) everyday over a more skilled softy like Yurt. Q gives the toughness and most of the skillset...

8. I am hoping against hope, more than anything else heading into the offseason, that he is not back next year. It was a failed experiment. A risk worth taking at the time, but a pretty poor outcome for all parties. Move on.

To be fair there was very small hand full of posters that seemed to genuinely believe in Yurt as a future NBA player. And a decent amount that while certainly not calling him a future NBAer were at least supportive and basically would say, why bash him, he's a Hoya, support him and wish him the best. 

Only players thought to have somewhat of a chance (Akinjo, Mac, Yurt, Pickett, etc) got bashed about how they would never make the league. = More Gate City nonsense.  Akinjo, Yurtseven, and Pickett came to college as top 100 guys. Mac wasn't close to being as highly regarded.  

Not breaking news that people on message boards have different opinions, and can be negative when a program is struggling as often as Georgetown has.  Sorry that having a good college basketball player come from Gate City is the best thing to ever happen there, doesn't change the fact that it's highly unlikely that he develops into a long-term NBA player.  Time will tell.

So a players high school ranking determines their NBA chances? How do you explain guys like Ja Morant and Steph Curry? Sibley was I believe a top 100 recruit, why did no one talk about his NBA chances? Probably because any NBA talk for anyone not a McDonalds AA and top 20 or 30 recruit is relegated for the players that performed like potential NBA players. Mac's NBA talk was due to his performance as a freshman and sophomore combined with his athleticism, for Pickett it was his length. Blair despite putting up some number was never much included in NBA talk because he lacked both size and athleticism. If Mac had came off the bench and averaged 5 pts no one would've said a thing about the NBA. Mac's NBA chances were discussed far more than Akinjo or Picketts were and as much or more as Yurt, how is that Gate City nonsense, that's just a fact which is easily viewable on the board. Not sure why you're taking exception to me saying only the Georgetown players thought to have an NBA chance were the ones bashed about how they would never make it and including Mac in that list like its some sort of extraordinary compliment to Mac. I swear if I said Happy B Day to Mac guys like you and tashoya would get triggered and tell me how everyone has a birthday and that doesn't make Mac special, he sucks and he'll be selling used cars in 6 months. 

Okay, but that's a far cry from "but nobody is surprised he's an NBA player." Clearly all the folks loudly proclaiming he was far too soft to ever play in the NBA must be surprised now, no? 

[professorhoya]

Guys like Mac, Yurt7, JaMorko and Ewing will continue to excel and make it in the NBA because they have drive, work hard and listen instead of complaining, being negative and pointing fingers.

[cgallstar02]

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Jan 22, 2022 3:09:03 GMT -5 cgallstar02 said:

I think I have seen more in game dunks from Mac then his 3 years at Texas Tech and the Hoyas. (reminds me of what he was doing in Kenner)
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Jan 23, 2022 19:58:36 GMT -5 professorhoya said:

Jan 22, 2022 3:09:03 GMT -5 cgallstar02 said:

I think I have seen more in game dunks from Mac then his 3 years at Texas Tech and the Hoyas. (reminds me of what he was doing in Kenner)
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Yes.  That may be because G League D reminds one of Kenner.

[cgallstar02]

Jan 23, 2022 19:58:36 GMT -5 professorhoya said:

Jan 22, 2022 3:09:03 GMT -5 cgallstar02 said:

I think I have seen more in game dunks from Mac then his 3 years at Texas Tech and the Hoyas. (reminds me of what he was doing in Kenner)
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I predicted that would happen a long time ago... Cole Anthony didn't have a single non fast break dunk in college, he dunks in the half court pretty regularly in the NBA. NBA/G League spacing along with the fact that NBA/G League players tend to take a lot of plays off defensively makes for a lot more open driving lanes. 

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Feb 4, 2022 1:50:50 GMT -5 cgallstar02 said:

McLung

When are you going to get him on
the Rex Chapman Show with Jason Hopkins

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