EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Feb 7, 2022 12:37:08 GMT -5
Just from box scores, Mac seems to be tearing it up in the G League. In addition to averaging over 20 points a game, he is starting to mix in increasing numbers of assists. Still lacking consistent three point shooting but may be improving there. I'm really surprised he is doing this well. Hopefully someone will call him up to the NBA in the near future.
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Post by cgallstar02 on Feb 11, 2022 6:56:22 GMT -5
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Post by cgallstar02 on Feb 12, 2022 23:41:50 GMT -5
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Post by cgallstar02 on Feb 15, 2022 2:02:55 GMT -5
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Post by cgallstar02 on Feb 16, 2022 1:40:19 GMT -5
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Post by cgallstar02 on Feb 20, 2022 0:49:39 GMT -5
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Post by cgallstar02 on Feb 23, 2022 18:18:52 GMT -5
Vintage White Chocolate
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EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Feb 23, 2022 21:27:42 GMT -5
Mac 34 min, 8-16, 2-5 3 pts, 3-3 ft, 8 rb, 9 asst, 4 st, 2 to, 21 pt in 118-112 South Bay over Stockton today.
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Feb 23, 2022 21:59:35 GMT -5
Mac made a couple of decent passes. But you're comparing a 914 Porsche to a 911 turbo. Technically, they're both Porsche's. In that way, yes, they're very similar. Here's some actual "vintage" White Chocolate:
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Post by cgallstar02 on Feb 23, 2022 23:20:19 GMT -5
Mac made a couple of decent passes. But you're comparing a 914 Porsche to a 911 turbo. Technically, they're both Porsche's. In that way, yes, they're very similar. Here's some actual "vintage" White Chocolate: I never said they were carbon copies. Every good/popular young player is compared to an established veteran, or retired player. In history has there ever been two players that played exactly alike? The answer is of course no. Heck, there's been plenty of identical twins over the years in college and the NBA, and even they have variances in their game. So why are you holding my McClung/Williams comparison to a higher standard, as though McClung must be an exact mirror image for the comparison to be even slightly accurate? Will he ever be as good of a passer/ball handler as Williams, or have as much wizardry/control of the ball? Of course not. But he's still out there playing a very Jason Williams esque style of play... multiple no looks/behind the backs every game, all season long. He even moves very similar to Williams, particularly on his dribbles, as he's really starting to master the art of hesitations and change of pace instead of trying to go 100 mph all the time. It wasn't that long ago that the narrative was "He's not a point guard, he'll never be a point guard. He's a shooting guard in a point guard body." Funny, no one on YouTube, social media, etc are saying that anymore. Wonder what happened to those folks? Starts every game at PG... 3rd in the G League in assists at over 8 per game... 21 pts a game... nearly 8 boards a game, and he's on the top team in the Western Conference. As for those Williams highlights, as I said before I watched every single Williams game the first 9 years of his career, so I saw all those live on TV when they happened, and I've rewatched the highlights numerous times over the years. I've seen all those probably 30-40 times in my lifetime so nothing new to me. I'm just thankful there's finally another player playing a similar style, yet with way more hops and toughness that I can watch and support. After Williams retired, the only player that really interested me was Derrick Rose, but I lost interest after his injuries, and I never liked him as much as Williams/McClung cus I prefer to root for the underdog and Rose was always a top dog in high school, college and the pros. I prefer the kids that people like to doubt and say aren't good enough. Lastly, my vintage White Chocolate line was in regards to the highlight on Twitter of the spin move followed by the fake behind the back pass. The fake behind the back was one of Williams patented moves, though done first by Pistol Pete. McClung has done it 4 or 5 times now this season, and admittedly he can't do it how Williams did it... Williams was able to wrap it behind his back better, which I'm guessing comes from having bigger hands/longer arms. McClung does it more how Rondo does it, who also used the move quite a bit earlier in his career. Still a great move that brings back memories of J-Will every time McClung brings it out.
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Feb 24, 2022 23:43:26 GMT -5
Mac made a couple of decent passes. But you're comparing a 914 Porsche to a 911 turbo. Technically, they're both Porsche's. In that way, yes, they're very similar. Here's some actual "vintage" White Chocolate: I never said they were carbon copies. Every good/popular young player is compared to an established veteran, or retired player. In history has there ever been two players that played exactly alike? The answer is of course no. Heck, there's been plenty of identical twins over the years in college and the NBA, and even they have variances in their game. So why are you holding my McClung/Williams comparison to a higher standard, as though McClung must be an exact mirror image for the comparison to be even slightly accurate? Will he ever be as good of a passer/ball handler as Williams, or have as much wizardry/control of the ball? Of course not. But he's still out there playing a very Jason Williams esque style of play... multiple no looks/behind the backs every game, all season long. He even moves very similar to Williams, particularly on his dribbles, as he's really starting to master the art of hesitations and change of pace instead of trying to go 100 mph all the time. It wasn't that long ago that the narrative was "He's not a point guard, he'll never be a point guard. He's a shooting guard in a point guard body." Funny, no one on YouTube, social media, etc are saying that anymore. Wonder what happened to those folks? Starts every game at PG... 3rd in the G League in assists at over 8 per game... 21 pts a game... nearly 8 boards a game, and he's on the top team in the Western Conference. As for those Williams highlights, as I said before I watched every single Williams game the first 9 years of his career, so I saw all those live on TV when they happened, and I've rewatched the highlights numerous times over the years. I've seen all those probably 30-40 times in my lifetime so nothing new to me. I'm just thankful there's finally another player playing a similar style, yet with way more hops and toughness that I can watch and support. After Williams retired, the only player that really interested me was Derrick Rose, but I lost interest after his injuries, and I never liked him as much as Williams/McClung cus I prefer to root for the underdog and Rose was always a top dog in high school, college and the pros. I prefer the kids that people like to doubt and say aren't good enough. Lastly, my vintage White Chocolate line was in regards to the highlight on Twitter of the spin move followed by the fake behind the back pass. The fake behind the back was one of Williams patented moves, though done first by Pistol Pete. McClung has done it 4 or 5 times now this season, and admittedly he can't do it how Williams did it... Williams was able to wrap it behind his back better, which I'm guessing comes from having bigger hands/longer arms. McClung does it more how Rondo does it, who also used the move quite a bit earlier in his career. Still a great move that brings back memories of J-Will every time McClung brings it out. The comp is still a ridiculous stretch, IMO. They're white and around the same height. The comp ends there. And, you're now compounding the silliness by adding in Rondo who has ridiculously large hands and crazy long arms. But, while this has been an exercise in futility, it's also been entertaining. It just goes to show that people will see what they want to see, to an extent, on both sides. I think you're wrong and you think I'm wrong. So be it.
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Post by cgallstar02 on Feb 25, 2022 1:42:14 GMT -5
The comp is still a ridiculous stretch, IMO. They're white and around the same height. The comp ends there. And, you're now compounding the silliness by adding in Rondo who has ridiculously large hands and crazy long arms. But, while this has been an exercise in futility, it's also been entertaining. It just goes to show that people will see what they want to see, to an extent, on both sides. I think you're wrong and you think I'm wrong. So be it. He did a move that Jason Williams, Pistol Pete, and Rajon Rondo used to do. Did I say that he played like Rondo or was as good as Rondo or anything of that nature? I simply said that Williams and Pistol Pete did the move better, and he did his more like Rondo, who despite yes, having long arms and large hands was unable to to wrap it around his back how Williams and Pete did. So if some college, G League, or low level NBA player who can dunk really good, does a dunk in game that MJ was known for and people say "wow he reminded me of MJ with that dunk." you do realize those people are not saying he's MJ or or that he's as good as MJ right? Heck, Mac even did an Olajuwon style post move earlier this year and the announcer said as much... saying he did an Olajuwon move is not the same as saying he's Olajuwon or as good. This shouldn't need to be explained. Your obsession with this comparison is baffling. If you go back to the beginning of this thread, people were literally comparing Mac to AI before he had even played a game of college basketball. You didn't seem to mind then. Someone just compared Mohammad to Derozan on Mohammad's thread... no issues there. I asked you previously what you thought of Fran Fraschilla constantly comparing Akinjo to Kyle Lowry on a recent Baylor broadcast... you never answered the question, so apparently that comparison didn't bother you either. Have you ever watched an NBA Draft or even read NBA scouting reports where they add player comparisons? If not, you should check some out... you'll see scrubs being compared to Hall of Famers, and occasionally guys that go on to be superstars being compared to low level role players. Someone could probably compare Dante Harris to Chris Paul or Billingsley to Lebron and you wouldn't batt an eyelash. But God forbid I compare McClung to a mediocre NBA player, that's where you draw the line. Lastly here's the fake behind the backs from all 4 guys, you can clearly see McClung does his like Rondo and Williams is more like Pistol Petes. Even AI did it, but his is not so great, since he had to use his other hand to stop the ball.
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Post by cgallstar02 on Feb 27, 2022 0:15:37 GMT -5
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