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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2018 10:03:42 GMT -5
How much of our foreign policy is being dictated by Trump's financial interests? 80% or 100%? O/U 90. I take the over. It's nuts.. It's really a shame that a lot of the time our foreign policy decisions are shaped by two things: 1) Being favorable to to those who are putting money in Trump's pocket. 2) Being favorable to those who say nice things about Trump.
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Post by SSHoya on Nov 29, 2018 10:06:38 GMT -5
I would love to hear the views of the few Trump supporters left on Hoya Talk on the recent revelations. Are their "moral compasses" also in alignment with Trump's?
And will the morally bereft GOP still stand by this abhorrent malignant narcissist corrupt President?
Corrupt Trump in a press gaggle before getting on Marine One says "I'm allowed to do business while a candidate," thus confirming the accuracy of Cohen's plea and also admitting that he lied during the whole course of the 2016 campaign that he had no business in Russia. You GOPers good with that?? Right???
Individual #1 = Trump and all the little grifter Trumps also implicated having knowledge of the continuing outreach to Russia for financial gain.
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Post by SSHoya on Nov 29, 2018 11:18:14 GMT -5
The Associated Press reports that on Thursday morning, former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen pleaded guilty in the Southern District of New York to making false statements to Congress related to his involvement in real estate deals in Russia on behalf of Donald Trump. At the hearing, Cohen's lawyer told the judge that his client was entering a plea agreement with Special Counsel Robert Mueller. The criminal information describing Cohen's conduct and the plea agreement he reached with prosecutors are below. Lawfare will post any additional documents as they become available. www.lawfareblog.com/document-michael-cohen-plea-documents-mueller-probewww.justice.gov/scoQuery whether this plea deal was announced only AFTER Trump submitted his answer to written interrogatories. Did Mueller ask Trump about the Moscow Project in those interrogatories knowing full well that he would deny it, but Mueller with full knowledge that Trump still contemplated the Moscow Project despite denying it during the whole course of the Presidential campaign? Michael Cohen, a former personal attorney to President Trump, pleaded guilty Thursday in New York to lying to Congress about a Moscow real estate project that Trump and his company pursued during the months he was running for president. In a nine-page filing, prosecutors laid out a litany of lies that Cohen admitted he told to congressional lawmakers about the Moscow project — an attempt, Cohen said, to minimize links between the proposed development and Trump as his presidential bid was taking off. www.washingtonpost.com/politics/michael-cohen-trumps-former-lawyer-pleads-guilty-to-lying-to-congress/2018/11/29/5fac986a-f3e0-11e8-bc79-68604ed88993_story.htmlIt's shame that Kushner failed to set up his back channel secure communications at a Russian diplomatic facility, isn't it? www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/06/06/how-to-understand-kushners-back-channel-215232
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Post by SSHoya on Nov 29, 2018 14:10:09 GMT -5
It is the kind of fine print to which lawyers devote many billable hours crafting and reviewing. Rick Gates’s plea deal with special counsel Robert Mueller includes this line: “The defendant agrees not to reveal his cooperation, or any information derived therefrom, to any third party without prior consent of the Office.” The language of Paul Manafort’s cooperation deal is almost identical—with the exception of that sentence about disclosing information to third parties. “The absence of that gag order is not an oversight,” says Katya Jestin, a former federal prosecutor. “This could be part of a larger strategic play by Mueller. Which gives this a John le Carré aspect.” www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/11/robert-mueller-paul-manafort-special-counsel-chess-game
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Post by njhoya78 on Nov 29, 2018 14:23:48 GMT -5
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Post by njhoya78 on Nov 29, 2018 14:46:00 GMT -5
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Post by SSHoya on Nov 29, 2018 15:17:26 GMT -5
See Para. 7a of the Criminal Information: The Moscow Project was discussed multiple times within the Company and did not end in January 2016. Instead, as late as June 2016, COHEN and Individual 2 [Felix Sater] discussed efforts to obtain Russian governmental approval for the Moscow Project. COHEN discussed the status and progress of the Moscow Project with Individual 1 [Don the Con] on more than three occasions COHEN claimed to the Committee, and he briefed family members of Individual 1 within the Company about the project. (Just need to identify which family members testified and/or were interviewed by the FBI to see if they denied that the Moscow Project continued throughout the campaign up to and including June 2016). The briefing of family members is a particularly conspicuous inclusion. Cohen never directly denied briefing them; he said only that he didn’t brief them when he made the decision to shutter the project. “I did not ask or brief [Individual 1], or any of his family, before I made the decision to terminate further work on the proposal,” Cohen said in his testimony. www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/11/29/key-takeaways-michael-cohens-new-plea-deal/?utm_term=.95a0fd294177And this is interesting: Acting attorney general Matthew G. Whitaker was notified in advance that President Trump’s former personal attorney would plead guilty Thursday to lying to Congress about a Moscow real estate project that Trump and his company pursued while he was running for president, a person familiar with the matter said. www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/acting-attorney-general-whitaker-was-notified-in-advance-of-cohen-plea/2018/11/29/f1b64598-f404-11e8-80d0-f7e1948d55f4_story.html?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_whitaker-315pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans
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Post by hoyarooter on Nov 29, 2018 22:04:25 GMT -5
This is fascinating. I'm salivating over what this might reveal.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2018 3:39:11 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2018 3:53:55 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2018 9:31:11 GMT -5
Neal Katyal: Folks need to remember when Michael Cohen was negotiating the deal with "Russia" for Trump, he was not negotiating like a regular business transaction. The plea agreement says he was negotiating with Kremlin *OFFICIALS* -- not private businesspersons. This is no ordinary biz.
Adam Schiff:
Last year, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov claimed Cohen’s outreach on the Trump Tower Moscow deal received no response. As Cohen’s plea demonstrates, they lied. They helped Trump by providing false corroboration. This is a counterintelligence nightmare.
Michael Steele: Trump on Cohen; "By being weak, unlike other people that you watch, he's a weak person, and what he's trying to do is get a reduced sentence."
Translation: Cohen is weak because he will no longer lie for me. #NoPardonForYou
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2018 11:48:52 GMT -5
Legality aside, do Republicans consider this behavior unpresidential?
As a point of reference for "unpresidential": Is it worse than wearing a tan suit?
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Post by tashoya on Nov 30, 2018 11:51:50 GMT -5
Legality aside, do Republicans consider this behavior unpresidential? As a point of reference for "unpresidential": Is it worse than wearing a tan suit? It's not worse than a Kenyan wearing a tan suit, amirite?
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Post by SSHoya on Nov 30, 2018 12:33:05 GMT -5
Legality aside, do Republicans consider this behavior unpresidential? As a point of reference for "unpresidential": Is it worse than wearing a tan suit? It's not worse than a Kenyan wearing a tan suit, amirite? I see your Kenyan and raise you a socialist and a Muslim -- a Kenyan socialist Muslim wearing a tan suit.
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Post by SSHoya on Dec 1, 2018 8:42:36 GMT -5
Good analysis of the potential ramifications of Cohen's plea deal: President Trump could be forgiven if he feels like the walls are closing in on him. In just the past few days, Robert Mueller’s office apparently has been gearing up for action against Trump associates Jerome Corsi and Roger Stone. Trump’s former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, has managed—against all odds—to get himself in even deeper trouble. There have been additional revelations about Trump’s central role in hush-money payments to Stormy Daniels. And on Thursday came the announcement that Cohen had reached an additional plea deal, this time not with the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York and not about campaign finance matters but with Mueller and about something very collusion-y involving Russia and the Trump Organization. www.lawfareblog.com/how-read-michael-cohens-latest-plea-and-its-revelations-about-trump-organization
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Post by SSHoya on Dec 1, 2018 15:09:42 GMT -5
Cohen's memo re: his sentencing contains new information demonstrating what a fraud Trump pulled on the American electorate by his continual lying about his contacts with Russia: “Michael had a lengthy substantive conversation with the personal assistant to a Kremlin official following his outreach in January 2016, engaged in additional communications concerning the project as late as June 2016, and kept [Trump] apprised of these communications,” Cohen’s lawyers write in the filing, which refers to Trump as “Client-1.” “He and [Trump] also discussed possible travel to Russia in the summer of 2016, and Michael took steps to clear dates for such travel.” This is significant because it means Trump knew the Russian government was involved in helping him land a major real estate deal — even as Trump was asking Americans to vote for him for the U.S. presidency. Cohen was even asked to be the guest of Putin’s press secretary, Dmitry Peskov, during his planned trip to Moscow and told he might be introduced to either Putin or Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev. www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/12/01/takeaways-about-trumps-role-cohens-lies-cohens-new-filing/?utm_term=.0e0477a54daa
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Post by SSHoya on Dec 2, 2018 11:22:08 GMT -5
David French in the National Review. He also notes the HPSCI's majority report under the leadership of clown/moron Nunes repeated hook, line, and sinker Cohen's lies. (Last I checked, David French and NR are still conservative). First, it was wholly unacceptable for the Trump team to pursue a significant business relationship with our chief geopolitical foe at the same time that he was locking down the Republican nomination for president. This disclosure casts Trump’s rhetoric in a new light. Remember Trump’s compliments of Putin and his constant assurances that he and Putin would get along? www.nationalreview.com/corner/trumps-unacceptable-campaign-conduct-and-two-other-takeaways-from-the-cohen-plea/
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Post by SSHoya on Dec 2, 2018 16:08:34 GMT -5
Excellent analysis on Cohen's sentencing memo. The sentencing memo of Michael Cohen is a fascinating read on a number of levels: in the quality of its advocacy, in its account of Cohen’s cooperation with authorities, and in its account of the conduct of President Trump. On the substance, the memo suggests that Cohen has had a lot to say to prosecutors, especially about the conduct of the president of the United States. The memo goes out of its way to emphasize just how much of Cohen’s criminal conduct is traceable either to direct instructions from Donald Trump or to overzealous assistance of him. “Michael regrets,” his lawyers write,” that his vigor in promoting Client-1’s interests in the heat of political battle led him to abandon good judgment and cross legal lines.” (If anyone had any doubt as to the identity of “Client-1,” a footnote detailing “Michael’s loyal service to his famous former client” quotes a friend of Cohen’s describing Cohen’s “loyalty to Mr. Trump.”) www.lawfareblog.com/theres-lot-going-michael-cohens-sentencing-memo
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2018 11:12:36 GMT -5
A message from Individual 1:
Question: If Trump called Stone and encouraged him not to testify couldn't that be considered witness tampering and against the law? I ask because he does these things in plain site on the daily.
Either way, it's amazeballs that this is a President who enjoys almost unanimous support from his party even though his actions seem indefensible...
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Post by hoya9797 on Dec 3, 2018 14:27:43 GMT -5
Trump supporters will tolerate pretty much any crimes as long as they get fewer brown people in the country in return.
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