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Post by DFW HOYA on Nov 26, 2018 23:39:35 GMT -5
Conversely, Muller now has another source which has proven Manafort's testimony was fraudulent.
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Post by SSHoya on Nov 27, 2018 7:38:42 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2018 9:46:44 GMT -5
That seems like it would be pretty big news, so we'll wait to see if other News Org's confirm.
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Post by SSHoya on Nov 27, 2018 10:19:18 GMT -5
That seems like it would be pretty big news, so we'll wait to see if other News Org's confirm. Wonder if this is what Manafort lied about to Mueller. If Trump's campaign chair met with Assange, is there still no collusion? Even Pompeo as CIA Director called Wikileaks a non-state actor hostile foreign power. And Assange's relationship to Russia cannot be denied. www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/09/did-russia-try-to-rescue-julian-assange
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Post by EtomicB on Nov 27, 2018 22:34:09 GMT -5
Manafort seems to always try & play the angles... www.nytimes.com/2018/11/27/us/politics/manafort-lawyer-trump-cooperation.htmlRudolph W. Giuliani, one of the president’s personal lawyers, acknowledged the arrangement on Tuesday and defended it as a source of valuable insights into the special counsel’s inquiry and where it was headed. Such information could help shape a legal defense strategy, and it also appeared to give Mr. Trump and his legal advisers ammunition in their public relations campaign against Mr. Mueller’s office.
For example, Mr. Giuliani said, Mr. Manafort’s lawyer Kevin M. Downing told him that prosecutors hammered away at whether the president knew about the June 2016 Trump Tower meeting where Russians promised to deliver damaging information on Hillary Clinton to his eldest son, Donald Trump Jr. The president has long denied knowing about the meeting in advance. “He wants Manafort to incriminate Trump,” Mr. Giuliani declared of Mr. Mueller.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2018 8:40:39 GMT -5
Manafort seems to always try & play the angles... www.nytimes.com/2018/11/27/us/politics/manafort-lawyer-trump-cooperation.htmlRudolph W. Giuliani, one of the president’s personal lawyers, acknowledged the arrangement on Tuesday and defended it as a source of valuable insights into the special counsel’s inquiry and where it was headed. Such information could help shape a legal defense strategy, and it also appeared to give Mr. Trump and his legal advisers ammunition in their public relations campaign against Mr. Mueller’s office.
For example, Mr. Giuliani said, Mr. Manafort’s lawyer Kevin M. Downing told him that prosecutors hammered away at whether the president knew about the June 2016 Trump Tower meeting where Russians promised to deliver damaging information on Hillary Clinton to his eldest son, Donald Trump Jr. The president has long denied knowing about the meeting in advance. “He wants Manafort to incriminate Trump,” Mr. Giuliani declared of Mr. Mueller.So the President and his team are sharing information with a convicted criminal. A criminal convicted of Conspiracy against the United States...#Maga indeed... It's like that time when.... I'm drawing blanks. Can a both-sider help me out?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2018 8:52:22 GMT -5
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Post by SSHoya on Nov 28, 2018 9:34:30 GMT -5
I wonder if Mueller could subpoena Giuliani and Downing to testify about their contacts and communications. Once Manafort agreed to a plea agreement and cooperate with the special counsel, the joint defense agreement should have been void as Trump and Manafort's legal interests should have diverged (conflict of interest). Thus, there would be no privileged communications between Downing's and any of Trump's lawyers as there would be under a JDA. Moreover, if Downing's entered into the plea agreement knowing that he was not going to do so in good faith, is there an ethics problem? I wonder what the DC Bar rules say about this regarding Downey's conduct? Regardless, Downing's reputation in DC as a lawyer to be trusted should be in the dumper.
Also, could Giuliani and Downing's conduct be another brick in the wall of an obstruction of justice charge?
Were pardons dangled?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2018 10:18:52 GMT -5
Any hot takes on this from anyone from The Party of Law and Order, who want to be tough on crime and make sure that all of the laws of our country are enforced?
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Post by Elvado on Nov 28, 2018 11:58:25 GMT -5
Any hot takes on this from anyone from The Party of Law and Order, who want to be tough on crime and make sure that all of the laws of our country are enforced? If laws were broken the offenders should be punished. If attorneys have violated the RPC, the relevant licensing authorities have jurisdiction.
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Post by SSHoya on Nov 28, 2018 22:41:15 GMT -5
Any hope Stone may have of staying within the realm of dirty-but-legal trickery runs up against a particularly serious problem: the company that he and his associates kept. Should it turn out that they were encouraging and supporting a foreign government and its agents in any phase of the plan to acquire and disseminate stolen emails, they run headlong into the law barring foreign nationals from providing “anything of value” to an American political candidate. The rules prohibit a U.S. citizen from providing "substantial assistance" to foreign nationals violating this law. As Robert Mueller’s indictment of Russian parties for conspiracy to defraud the United States shows, Americans can also face liability under the same legal theory: conspiring to defraud the United States by failing to report these activities and thereby impeding the Federal Election Commission from discharging its law enforcement function. www.lawfareblog.com/roger-stones-time-barrel-campaign-dirty-tricks-political-sabotage-and-law
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Post by SSHoya on Nov 29, 2018 8:06:19 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2018 9:00:46 GMT -5
Any hot takes on this from anyone from The Party of Law and Order, who want to be tough on crime and make sure that all of the laws of our country are enforced? If laws were broken the offenders should be punished. If attorneys have violated the RPC, the relevant licensing authorities have jurisdiction. Cool. Seeing how Trump has steered you guys away from being the Party of Family Values, the Party of Free Markets and Free Trade, the Party of Fiscal Responsibility, and the Party of Personal Accountability, it's nice to know that you're still hanging on to Law and Order (for now).
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Post by SSHoya on Nov 29, 2018 9:08:34 GMT -5
If laws were broken the offenders should be punished. If attorneys have violated the RPC, the relevant licensing authorities have jurisdiction. Cool. Seeing how Trump has steered you guys away from being the Party of Family Values, the Party of Free Markets and Free Trade, the Party of Fiscal Responsibility, and the Party of Personal Accountability, it's nice to know that you're still hanging on to Law and Order (for now). I'm not holding my breath given the actions of Trump who is a wannabe dictator and has no respect whatsoever for the rule of law.
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Post by SSHoya on Nov 29, 2018 9:21:26 GMT -5
Stay tuned. Maybe something, maybe nothing but at least the HPSCI under Democratic leadership will conduct a bona fide investigation under Schiff unlike under clown/moron dairy farmer Nunes. The statement makes a series of explosive but uncorroborated claims about Papadopoulos’s alleged coordination with Russians in the weeks following Trump’s election in November 2016, including that Papadopoulos said he was “doing a business deal with Russians which would result in large financial gains for himself and Mr. Trump.” The confidant—whose name The Atlantic is withholding on request but whose identity is known to congressional and federal investigators—stated a willingness to take a polygraph test “to prove that I am being truthful” and had come forward now after seeing Papadopoulos “become increasingly hostile towards those who are investigating him and his associates.” A lawyer for Papadopoulos declined to comment. www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/11/papadopouloss-russia-ties-still-interest-fbi-schiff/576895/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=atlantic-daily-newsletter&utm_content=20181128&silverid=MzEwMTU3NjExMzgyS0
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Post by SSHoya on Nov 29, 2018 9:26:29 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2018 9:38:28 GMT -5
Smh...
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Post by SSHoya on Nov 29, 2018 9:52:22 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2018 9:56:21 GMT -5
How much of our foreign policy is being dictated by Trump's financial interests?
80% or 100%?
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Post by SSHoya on Nov 29, 2018 9:57:33 GMT -5
How much of our foreign policy is being dictated by Trump's financial interests? 80% or 100%? O/U 90. I take the over.
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